ZTZ 99A reload and reverse speed is obviously wrong...

[Eustruria 17]

1 reverse gear. Bruh. None of the ZTZ series get working laser dazzlers, which are visibly modelled in game already.

 

EDIT: Apparently on the Russian stream they said they copied the same stats as the ZTZ-99III, so hopefully it will get it's actual stats during full release.

Edited May 27, 2022 by Eustruria

[私に父なる神が舞い降りた - 洪 秀全 13]

1. There is video of ztz99A reloading, for the exemple this one : ZTZ 99A reload. This is definitely not a 7s reload, more like a 6 - 6.5s  reload.

reload start from him push reload button at 5:15 , end at 05:20 when propellant was in the chamber. So 5s reload, 6s ready to fire.

ZTZ99A reload slow motion

 

2.  Reverse speed is also definitely not 4km/h reverse.

First, ztz 99A have 2-3 reverse gear is a well known thing, and 1 reverse gear should have more than 4km/h reverse speed for a moder MBT that are made in 2016. 

Second, ztz 99 A have this bump up at the engine part compared to old ztz 99, that shows ztz 99A have a more powerful engine compare to ztz99.

If ztz 99 in the game has 4km/h reverse then ztz99 A  should definitely have faster reverse speed.

Edited June 1, 2022 by Scr0_0ge

[Redmisty 828]

Hello, in the streaming the developer said the vehicle is still in development, all information on the vehicle card is not the final result in the main server.

[LaevateinARX-8 108]

WORK IN PROGRESS

[Merzhi 174]

Why do people keep saying the ZTZ99A should have a better reload when it uses the exact same T72 style loader as the 99-II/III?

[CakeJuniorMan 176]

7 hours ago, Redmisty said:

Hello, in the streaming the developer said the vehicle is still in development, all information on the vehicle card is not the final result in the main server.

Yes, just because it has the same stats as the 99-II and III, it doesn't mean that it will be like that when it's release to the live server. It was mentioned many times that it is still not completed yet, so it means that the developers hasn't finished modeling yet. I am aware that they would change it, by it's mobility, protection, maybe a new shell type, and maybe the reload. So don't worry about it or don't be anxious about Gaijin leaving the 99A the way it is right now. Also there is evidence that this machine I was looking into has 2-3 reverse gears. 

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

8 hours ago, Redmisty said:

Hello, in the streaming the developer said the vehicle is still in development, all information on the vehicle card is not the final result in the main server.

Agreed. I remembered too when the first ZTZ99 came out, it had the exact same gun and mobility as the ZTZ96/96A

 

Back then too with the PTL02, in the first dev of ixwa strike it had like a top speed of 120km/h which was unreal for a 320hp engine lol. So yeah obvious placeholders, and as BVVD confirmed, 99A is still a huge WIP

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

what all needs to be changed for the ZTZ99A

-reverse speed buff to 34km/h

-neutral steering capability

-1500hp engine of course means top speed buff

-gun depression of at least -7 degrees, hence the taller turret

-125-III and GP125 ATGM

-engine should sound like that of the Leopard 2, since its based from MTU engine

[jet_17_49 411]

3 hours ago, NAYEONnaise said:

what all needs to be changed for the ZTZ99A

-reverse speed buff to 34km/h

-neutral steering capability

-1500hp engine of course means top speed buff

-gun depression of at least -7 degrees, hence the taller turret

-125-III and GP125 ATGM

-engine should sound like that of the Leopard 2, since its based from MTU engine

-FY-5 ERA (or so I've heard)

-Dozer

-Hull looks a bit rear heavy, might be due to suspension code issues

-someone should do some digging on whether the 99A has improved gun handling over the old 99s

 

On a side note, is it just me or is the 99A's engine compartment slightly longer than it should be? I think it should be visibly shorter than it is on the old 99s due to the new engine being mounted sideways and whatnot.

[llSolitairell@psn 5,730]

18 minutes ago, jet_17_49 said:

On a side note, is it just me or is the 99A's engine compartment slightly longer than it should be? I think it should be visibly shorter than it is on the old 99s due to the new engine being mounted sideways and whatnot.

 

 

Still seems pretty big to me, you still have to fit the new Transmission and engine radiators in there

also

new FoV might be making it look much larger than it is

 

[tiger7742 260]

is it just me or does the 99A's turret we have in game seem a bit too flat?

 

also the tank seems much less chonky compared to the images online

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

4 hours ago, tiger7742 said:

is it just me or does the 99A's turret we have in game seem a bit too flat?

 

also the tank seems much less chonky compared to the images online

not really, maybe because of the new FoV in the dev server, hence the distorted depth perception

[llSolitairell@psn 5,730]

5 hours ago, tiger7742 said:

is it just me or does the 99A's turret we have in game seem a bit too flat?

 

Not sure what you mean but the turret is made of flat angles as far as I can find

 

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[jet_17_49 411]

54 minutes ago, llSolitairell@psn said:

 

Not sure what you mean but the turret is made of flat angles as far as I can find

 

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I think he means to ask whether it appears to be vertically shorter than it should be

[tiger7742 260]

15 minutes ago, jet_17_49 said:

I think he means to ask whether it appears to be vertically shorter than it should be

^^

my bad for not expressing myself clearly

[jet_17_49 411]

8 hours ago, llSolitairell@psn said:

Still seems pretty big to me, you still have to fit the new Transmission and engine radiators in there

also

new FoV might be making it look much larger than it is

 

If the diagram below is accurate (granted it might not be) the 99A should be slightly shorter the the 1st gen 99s. Apparently in game it's actually longer than the 99s.

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Edited May 28, 2022 by jet_17_49

[llSolitairell@psn 5,730]

57 minutes ago, jet_17_49 said:

 

If the diagram below is accurate (granted it might not be) the 99A should be slightly shorter the the 1st gen 99s. Apparently in game it's actually longer than the 99s.

 

I see, comparing images of the 99 and 99A from the side it definitely seems like the gap between the 2nd and 3rd roadwheels was shortened, and the engine assembly made smaller as the transmission, engine and radiator is one block (assuming the current 99-II/III is accurate anyway)

 

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Could indeed be a model error but not 100% sure.

Edited May 28, 2022 by llSolitairell@psn

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

1 hour ago, jet_17_49 said:

 

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model error confirmed. 

According to Military Today (2022), ZTZ99 hull length is 7.8 meters, and according to CakeJuniorMan (2021) on his ZTZ99A suggestion, 99A hull length is 6.9 meters.

[CakeJuniorMan 176]

31 minutes ago, NAYEONnaise said:

model error confirmed. 

According to Military Today (2022), ZTZ99 hull length is 7.8 meters, and according to CakeJuniorMan (2021) on his ZTZ99A suggestion, 99A hull length is 6.9 meters.

Yeah The 99A Is supposed to be shorter than the regular 99, but the size of it is larger. Btw the article I wrote one year ago wasn't that great to be honest with you, so I apologize about it. 

[jet_17_49 411]

Old news from the national subforums:

The devs plan to give the 99A "new ammunition" and are aware that it's in need of a significant mobility buff, at least so says a mod. No news about the laser dazzlers so far.

Edited May 29, 2022 by jet_17_49

[kcns 37]

On 27/05/2022 at 19:22, Merzhi said:

Why do people keep saying the ZTZ99A should have a better reload when it uses the exact same T72 style loader as the 99-II/III?

there were some changes to accommodate the new atgm. not much is known about the changes but if you watch the videos linked above it is definitely reloading faster than the type 99-ii/iii models

Edited May 29, 2022 by kcns

[CakeJuniorMan 176]

Does anyone have any ideas what this is on top of the 99A?

 

1 minute ago, kcns said:

there were some changes to accommodate the new atgm (license built copy of reliks). not much is known about the changes but if you watch the videos linked above it is definitely reloading faster than the type 99-ii/iii models

Don't they fire the GP125 ATGM? 

Edited May 29, 2022 by CakeJuniorMan

[Merzhi 174]

18 minutes ago, kcns said:

there were some changes to accommodate the new atgm (license built copy of reliks). not much is known about the changes but if you watch the videos linked above it is definitely reloading faster than the type 99-ii/iii models

The video posted doesn't show the rotation of the ammunition carousel and the video cuts straight to when the round is beginning to be loaded into the breech. Doesn't really seem like conclusive proof of a faster reload tbh

[_N4MELESS_ 2,972]

On 27/05/2022 at 17:35, Scr0_0ge said:

. There is video of ztz99A reloading, for the exemple this one : ZTZ 99A reload. This is definitely not a 7s reload, more like a 6 - 6.5s  reload.

reload start from him push reload button at 5:15 , end at 05:20 when propellant was in the chamber. So 5s reload, 6s ready to fire.

 

I watched this, the reload started around 5:14 and the auto-loader finished at 5:21, although the camera kept switching places but  it is roughly 7 seconds.

[私に父なる神が舞い降りた - 洪 秀全 13]

On 30/05/2022 at 08:15, I_NAMELESS_I said:

 

I watched this, the reload started around 5:14 and the auto-loader finished at 5:21, although the camera kept switching places but  it is roughly 7 seconds.

this video shows more clearly with slow motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLBEs0L7fbM&lc=UgzX-Mo4Vb-uU_reraB4AaABAg