Frenzier 48 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 Even it it was 8.7 it would still suck, sometimes i cant even get to ground targets fast enough, since it is slower than every other Strike Aircraft or Bomber it meets, i cant outrun anything, often i cant even get close to any ground targets before i take a missile to the face, it moves like a whale so dodging missiles its almost impossible, and bleeds too much speed on maneuvers, only has a measly 30 m/s of climb rate with 8 1000lb bombs, thats not even enough to destroy a single base, its pointless to try to climb, any jet will get up to me and take me down in 10% of the time it took me to gain altitude, why? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 Ive asked about that poobucket aswell (and didn't get any answer) And ive come to the conclusion that it's not to be used in Air battles at all. It's slow, starts on the ground and have no way of defending itself. The only thing i can see it me marginally useful is in ground battles as CAS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzier 48 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 Its the only Rank VI plane i have on GB and i want to up the GB tech tree and farm score for the Summer Event, i dont understand why Gaijin does this to its players, what are they trying to achieve? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,876 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Frenzier said: Even it it was 8.7 it would still suck, sometimes i cant even get to ground targets fast enough, since it is slower than every other Strike Aircraft or Bomber it meets, i cant outrun anything, often i cant even get close to any ground targets before i take a missile to the face, it moves like a whale so dodging missiles its almost impossible, and bleeds too much speed on maneuvers, only has a measly 30 m/s of climb rate with 8 1000lb bombs, thats not even enough to destroy a single base, its pointless to try to climb, any jet will get up to me and take me down in 10% of the time it took me to gain altitude, why? Because its insanely good at destroying enemy bases and getting home safely Edited August 20, 2022 by Razielkaine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llSolitairell@psn 5,730 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Razielkaine said: Because its insanely good at destroying enemy bases and getting home safely in arcade? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,876 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, llSolitairell@psn said: in arcade? RB but that just means in AB it is even better at climbing but you need to be patient and side climb first. when i was an AB player i mained bombers and i did it well. Edited August 20, 2022 by Razielkaine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 I might have been unlucky, but ive either been shot down fast while climbing or my team have been gone by the time im high enough to start approaching the target. So i still think its a poobucket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 And if i'm not mistaken the video praising the Buc was made when it had an air spawn? Meaning it would have a chance reach it target, while now, with start at the air field things a a bit harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenzier 48 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 LoL, show me someone who as actually played Bucaneer S.1 and done well compared to other Strike Aircraft, show me statistics, blah blah and a link of a guy with 18 battles and average stats in it means nothing, show me someone who has actually performed better with it than other Strike Aircraft of same BR. I have 60 battles with it and 60% WR, and im playing it along with 5.7 BR planes, and im 100% sure if i had any other Strike Aircraft or Bomber of same or slightly lower BR i would perform better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llSolitairell@psn 5,730 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Gruminator said: And if i'm not mistaken the video praising the Buc was made when it had an air spawn? Meaning it would have a chance reach it target, while now, with start at the air field things a a bit harder. Yeah In RB the Bucc S.2 is dead content, no airspawn, the BR is flooded with premiums and mach 2 capable aircraft that will beat you to all objectives like the Su-7BKL or even worse the F-105, good missiles such as the Harriers and A-5C and all objectives are concentrated in a 10x10km square, this is at 9.3 idk how the S.1 in 9.7, even in Arcade is supposed to be good when it's the same BR as *checks notes* the F-104As and has to contend with 10.0s such as *checks notes again*... the MiG-21SMT? Jesus. Edited August 20, 2022 by llSolitairell@psn 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 1 minute ago, llSolitairell@psn said: Yeah In RB the Bucc S.2 is dead content, no airspawn, the BR is flooded with premiums and mach 2 capable aircraft that will beat you to all objectives like the Su-7BKL or even worse the F-105 and good missiles such as the Harriers and A-5C, this is at 9.3 idk how the S.1 in 9.7 is supposed to be good when it's the same BR as *checks notes* the F-104As and has to contend with 10.0s such as *checks notes again*... the MiG-21SMT? Jesus. thank you! I have no idea how a plane with NO guns or missiles get's a air field spawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despeao 947 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Razielkaine said: Because its insanely good at destroying enemy bases and getting home safely I mean, isn't it suposed to do exactly that ? If people don't climb to get a bomber they shouldn't be complaining it's destroying bases. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,876 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, Despeao said: I mean, isn't it suposed to do exactly that ? If people don't climb to get a bomber they shouldn't be complaining it's destroying bases. 100% 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Razielkaine said: 100% the problem is it don't have an air spawn now, while it will still face either other planes with airspawn or mach planes. so by the time this bucket have reached a decent height for bombing a lot of other planes will be there for it. But it's seems like Razielkaine is a pro, so i would like him to show some up to date fights (not some out of date stuff from last year) where he shows how insane it is for grinding. Because a newbie like me can't see the greatness in the plane. I promise i will acknowledge his kills and i will learn from them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 21, 2022 On 20/08/2022 at 18:20, Razielkaine said: 100% No answer? Im giving you a possibility to show im wrong dude, and i will admit it 100%. But if you just stop responding i will take it as you know you messed up, but won't admit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,876 Report post Posted August 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, Gruminator said: No answer? Im giving you a possibility to show im wrong dude, and i will admit it 100%. But if you just stop responding i will take it as you know you messed up, but won't admit it. I'm working so I'll post a video when I can play.maybe today or tomorrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Razielkaine said: I'm working so I'll post a video when I can play.maybe today or tomorrow. thank you And don't get me wrong here, i truly hope you can show me some tricks, because i really can't see the point in this plane in air RB. ive had 10 battles with it and ive been stopped before ive even come close to a base. (it dosent help i get teamed up with F-84 which got a decent bomb-load AND airspawn meaning they can get to base way faster than me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razielkaine 4,876 Report post Posted August 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Gruminator said: thank you And don't get me wrong here, i truly hope you can show me some tricks, because i really can't see the point in this plane in air RB. ive had 10 battles with it and ive been stopped before ive even come close to a base. (it dosent help i get teamed up with F-84 which got a decent bomb-load AND airspawn meaning they can get to base way faster than me) This video is rough, not edited or anything so please forgive me. just wanted to get this out for you soon as i got home this morning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 22, 2022 12 hours ago, Razielkaine said: This video is rough, not edited or anything so please forgive me. just wanted to get this out for you soon as i got home this morning. thank you mate. Ill try and do what you do and hope for a better luck, because the times ive tried to sideclimb, there have been someone waiting for me. Much appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunagraph 223 Report post Posted August 22, 2022 The fact that Vautours get an airspawn while being at the same/higher BR than the S1 is a serious oversight. They need to decide what does and doesn't get an airspawn on a case by case basis, instead of a blanket update like they did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 22, 2022 nope. 21 minutes ago, _Sister said: The fact that Vautours get an airspawn while being at the same/higher BR than the S1 is a serious oversight. They need to decide what does and doesn't get an airspawn on a case by case basis, instead of a blanket update like they did. It's really a mystery to me aswell. Something isnt right here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruminator 610 Report post Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Nope. now i tried what you showed. Yes, i got a bit more success, but its still not a glorious OP machine. The Vauntours (with higher BR) gets an airspawn and have bombed bases and have almost landed before im halfway to the target. Got no defence, which is kinda **** when the enemy is either faster or get airspawn. I truly appreciate your helped, and it DID help. But i still can't see the big light in this plane. PS. ungrades DOES help alot! Edited August 22, 2022 by Gruminator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
