Posted May 9, 2023 i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? I'm sorry, neither do I. Meteor missiles are too modern, and the release date is not that long ago, so information is very difficult to find. Most of the information is presented in this way, Increase XX% from AMRAAM...Etc. That's why we don't know the exact performance, and there's only a way to infer it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Flame2512 3,386 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? I've posted what I know about the Meteor here: As MBDA_Meteor nearly everything about it is classified. Saab say that the no escape zone is 60 km. The NEZ of AMRAAM is apparently about 15 km. So that gives some idea of performance. Edited May 9, 2023 by Flame2512 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Cpt_Bel_V 4,790 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Flame2512 3,386 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? Yeah. What's wrong with people who are interested in military hardware, discussing military hardware, in the section of the forum dedicated to discussing military hardware? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Cpt_Bel_V 4,790 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Flame2512 said: Yeah. What's wrong with people who are interested in military hardware, discussing military hardware, in the section of the forum dedicated to discussing military hardware? Well, i've nothing about being interested, but in the same time, i don't see this discussion to be helpful on close-time game development. Futhermore Gaijin would have to completely creates the FM/Guidance ability of this missile in order to add it --> so it could be severly nerfed as all EU weapon systems seems to be currently ^^" Edited May 10, 2023 by Cpt_Bel_V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? thats the entire point of a post like this. the aircraft itself wont appear for a long time. Neither will the IRIS-T. or the taurus, or the SPEAR 3, or the SCALP EG, or the AESA radars, or the TRDs, or the EF ECR, etc, etc. discussion is good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? It's better to have a discuss than just sit there and crying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Cpt_Bel_V 4,790 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: thats the entire point of a post like this. the aircraft itself wont appear for a long time. Neither will the IRIS-T. or the taurus, or the SPEAR 3, or the SCALP EG, or the AESA radars, or the TRDs, or the EF ECR, etc, etc. discussion is good 15 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: It's better to have a discuss than just sit there and crying i just answered to Flame the same thing as i wanna say to you both : 53 minutes ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Well, i've nothing about being interested, but in the same time, i don't see this discussion to be helpful on close-time game development. Futhermore Gaijin would have to completely creates the FM/Guidance ability of this missile in order to add it --> so it could be severly nerfed as all EU weapon systems seems to be currently ^^" discussion is fine,... but we can't projected ourselves in the game,... mostly because maps would have to increase again and by at least 1.5 times the current EC maps,... i wouldn't have to get targeted by that missile right after i just took off, being slow and having no altitude to deal with it. and even if the missile took time to reach me,... it still would track me, as radars able to employed them are far more reliable and able to multi-track ennemies --> this would add a **** storm of contrails in skies in less than 1 minutes in the game, and brings the winning team to those able to shoot most ennemies after this single spam. not to forgot that even today F-14 carriers are taking off, climbing sending all missiles then goes for reload and do it again. Edited May 10, 2023 by Cpt_Bel_V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Flame2512 3,386 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 I found some official ECR-90 performance figures: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) https://www.sto.nato.int/publications/AGARD/Forms/AGARD Document Set/docsethomepage.aspx?ID=8034&FolderCTID=0x0120D5200078F9E87043356C409A0D30823AFA16F60B00B8BCE98BB37EB24A8258823D6B11F157&List=03e8ea21-64e6-4d37-8235-04fb61e122e9&RootFolder=%2Fpublications%2FAGARD%2FAGARD-CP-593 this is a lot of documents about flight testing. dont **** your pants though, its declassified and marked "open access". in the first file "00front" it says "Security Classification of Document UNCLASSIFIED/UNLIMITED" so relax Relevant files are: 34chap32 and 30chap25 Edited May 14, 2023 by Faster_Boiiiii 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 https://www.hensoldt.net/news/hensoldts-kalaetron-attack-develops-quickly/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: https://www.hensoldt.net/news/hensoldts-kalaetron-attack-develops-quickly/ This is for Typhoon ECR, right? btw, I found some interesting photo. Spoiler Hungarian Gripen is loading AIM-120 on BOL launcher. missiles are depending on the type of pylon equipped with a BOL launcher. ex) LAU-128 with BOL = can load AIM-120 Spoiler Typhoon can load AMRAAM on outboard wing pylon 4 and 10(station 6), this means Typhoon can carry 4 BOL launcher with 6 AMRAAM + 2 IRIS-T loadout. I think this would be more useful than the 4 IRIS-T + 4 AMRAMM loadout Edited May 15, 2023 by MBDA_Meteor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: This is for Typhoon ECR, right? correct 29 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: btw, I found some interesting photo. --snip-- it should technically be possible to mount more AMRAAMs on the centre and inboard wing pylons as well. they're all wired up to support weapons. that aside, 4x bol dispensers would be really nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: it should technically be possible to mount more AMRAAMs on the centre and inboard wing pylons as well. they're all wired up to support weapons. Oh really, I couldn't find any data with such content. can you share it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Oh really, I couldn't find any data with such content. can you share it? there isnt a lot to be honest... Eurofighter Technology and Performance : Weapon Systems (archive.org) on the german wikipedia page it says it can carry 12 a2a missiles which alignes with the amount of hardpoints (13 minus 1 for the centre pylon) but they dont have a citation for that so id have to look through the sources to find that there's also that one beast mode illustration and i dont see why it would only do (highly advanced) air to ground weapons on those pylons. that would only make sense if there was some sort of avionics-to-missile datalink limit but that seems rather unlikely i am also having massive doubts about the validity of those "Manuals" because they show a bunch of typos... Edited May 15, 2023 by Faster_Boiiiii Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: there isnt a lot to be honest... Eurofighter Technology and Performance : Weapon Systems (archive.org) on the german wikipedia page it says it can carry 12 a2a missiles which alignes with the amount of hardpoints (13 minus 1 for the centre pylon) but they dont have a citation for that so id have to look through the sources to find that there's also that one beast mode illustration and i dont see why it would only do (highly advanced) air to ground weapons on those pylons. that would only make sense if there was some sort of avionics-to-missile datalink limit but that seems rather unlikely Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Spoiler But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Spoiler The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. 49 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: i am also having massive doubts about the validity of those "Manuals" because they show a bunch of typos... which "Manuals" do you mean? Edited May 15, 2023 by MBDA_Meteor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... _Iluminas_ 3,769 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Hide contents But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Reveal hidden contents The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. which "Manuals" do you mean? The loadout shown in the picture from u would include 2 droptanks on the wing wich could be replaced with Meteor/Iris-T Edit: here on this site is an oversight on possible loadouts it dosnt mention the swap but it is possible https://eurofighter.airpower.at/bewaffnung.htm Edit2: in the top it actually says that there are 3 hardpoints for heavy loads +1 for Iris-T/AMRAAM on each wing with the possibility for droptanks (Unter jedem Flügel befinden ich vier Außenlaststationen. Davon ist eine exklusiv vorgesehen für das Mitführen von WVR-Luft/Luft-Lenkwaffen sowie drei für das Mitführen schwererer Außenlasten, davon eine optional auch für einen Außentank. ) Edited May 15, 2023 by _Iluminas_ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Reveal hidden contents But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Reveal hidden contents The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. which "Manuals" do you mean? Quote The two outboard-most rails are for the exclusive use of Short Range Air to Air Missiles (SRAAMs). All of the pylons contain sophisticated electronics forming the last link in the ACS. The pylon systems, featuring MIL-STD-1760 databuses are responsible for arming, releasing and maintaining the attached ordnance. In addition to the wing pylons there are four conformal recessed troughs under the fuselage for the exclusive use of Medium Range Air to Air Missiles (MRAAMs). These mounts were designed for an AMRAAM class missile but the front two stations can accept both the British Sky Flash and Italian Aspide systems. In total the basic Typhoon configuration can carry, in various combinations, up to 10 missiles, two more than the U.S. F-22 Raptor and the same as an Su-35/30 in basic configurations. The manual um referring to is the one you sent an excerpt from. It contains things that can be confirmed but the typos really don't add to its credibility If you really want to get into the technical details then here is a document on the databus https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA255714.pdf Edited May 15, 2023 by Faster_Boiiiii 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 17, 2023 they're continually doing flight tests so we might even see some tests on Eurofighter soon. The Eurofighter jammer will probably have 2 of these AESAs(one in the front and one in the rear) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 23, 2023 Dont know where to put this but here's a paper on Laser designators and similar stuff(relevant for the GBU-48 i guess) https://www.sto.nato.int/publications/STO Technical Reports/RTO-AG-300-V26/$$AG-300-V26-ALL.pdf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 Spoiler 96821040-Aviation-Eurofighter-Typhoon.pdf Is this data is reliable? I found it while swimming in the sea of the Internet. However, no institution/presenter notation exists. I doubt the information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... MythicPi 593 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Hide contents 96821040-Aviation-Eurofighter-Typhoon.pdf 2.51 MB · 0 downloads Is this data is reliable? I found it while swimming in the sea of the Internet. However, no institution/presenter notation exists. I doubt the information. seems pretty extensive to be a spook, not that I can read german Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Hide contents 96821040-Aviation-Eurofighter-Typhoon.pdf 2.51 MB · 3 downloads Is this data is reliable? I found it while swimming in the sea of the Internet. However, no institution/presenter notation exists. I doubt the information. judging by the contents its probably from 2000-2010 and as such there's some... well lets say optimistic things in there. like the ARMIGER for example(discussed that in another thread here) or that Tranche 3 would include the AMSAR radar(CAPTOR-E was chosen instead although it does mention that the captor-e would be cheaper and thus more likely to be chosen) and TVC(hasn't happened yet). no sources so it could in theory be all garbage and it can't be used as a source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Fireball_2020 467 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 13:14, MBDA_Meteor said: Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Reveal hidden contents But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Hide contents The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. which "Manuals" do you mean? Thats superb! That is why your source(be careful sending that here) states 4 pylons are missile capable but also says it can carry 10 missiles total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Share More sharing options... Followers 0
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? I'm sorry, neither do I. Meteor missiles are too modern, and the release date is not that long ago, so information is very difficult to find. Most of the information is presented in this way, Increase XX% from AMRAAM...Etc. That's why we don't know the exact performance, and there's only a way to infer it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame2512 3,386 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources. @MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share? I've posted what I know about the Meteor here: As MBDA_Meteor nearly everything about it is classified. Saab say that the no escape zone is 60 km. The NEZ of AMRAAM is apparently about 15 km. So that gives some idea of performance. Edited May 9, 2023 by Flame2512 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Bel_V 4,790 Report post Posted May 9, 2023 Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame2512 3,386 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? Yeah. What's wrong with people who are interested in military hardware, discussing military hardware, in the section of the forum dedicated to discussing military hardware? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Bel_V 4,790 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Flame2512 said: Yeah. What's wrong with people who are interested in military hardware, discussing military hardware, in the section of the forum dedicated to discussing military hardware? Well, i've nothing about being interested, but in the same time, i don't see this discussion to be helpful on close-time game development. Futhermore Gaijin would have to completely creates the FM/Guidance ability of this missile in order to add it --> so it could be severly nerfed as all EU weapon systems seems to be currently ^^" Edited May 10, 2023 by Cpt_Bel_V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? thats the entire point of a post like this. the aircraft itself wont appear for a long time. Neither will the IRIS-T. or the taurus, or the SPEAR 3, or the SCALP EG, or the AESA radars, or the TRDs, or the EF ECR, etc, etc. discussion is good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Are we seriously speaking of a missile that would appears in maybe 3 to 5 years into the game? It's better to have a discuss than just sit there and crying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Bel_V 4,790 Report post Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: thats the entire point of a post like this. the aircraft itself wont appear for a long time. Neither will the IRIS-T. or the taurus, or the SPEAR 3, or the SCALP EG, or the AESA radars, or the TRDs, or the EF ECR, etc, etc. discussion is good 15 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: It's better to have a discuss than just sit there and crying i just answered to Flame the same thing as i wanna say to you both : 53 minutes ago, Cpt_Bel_V said: Well, i've nothing about being interested, but in the same time, i don't see this discussion to be helpful on close-time game development. Futhermore Gaijin would have to completely creates the FM/Guidance ability of this missile in order to add it --> so it could be severly nerfed as all EU weapon systems seems to be currently ^^" discussion is fine,... but we can't projected ourselves in the game,... mostly because maps would have to increase again and by at least 1.5 times the current EC maps,... i wouldn't have to get targeted by that missile right after i just took off, being slow and having no altitude to deal with it. and even if the missile took time to reach me,... it still would track me, as radars able to employed them are far more reliable and able to multi-track ennemies --> this would add a **** storm of contrails in skies in less than 1 minutes in the game, and brings the winning team to those able to shoot most ennemies after this single spam. not to forgot that even today F-14 carriers are taking off, climbing sending all missiles then goes for reload and do it again. Edited May 10, 2023 by Cpt_Bel_V Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame2512 3,386 Report post Posted May 13, 2023 I found some official ECR-90 performance figures: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) https://www.sto.nato.int/publications/AGARD/Forms/AGARD Document Set/docsethomepage.aspx?ID=8034&FolderCTID=0x0120D5200078F9E87043356C409A0D30823AFA16F60B00B8BCE98BB37EB24A8258823D6B11F157&List=03e8ea21-64e6-4d37-8235-04fb61e122e9&RootFolder=%2Fpublications%2FAGARD%2FAGARD-CP-593 this is a lot of documents about flight testing. dont **** your pants though, its declassified and marked "open access". in the first file "00front" it says "Security Classification of Document UNCLASSIFIED/UNLIMITED" so relax Relevant files are: 34chap32 and 30chap25 Edited May 14, 2023 by Faster_Boiiiii 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 https://www.hensoldt.net/news/hensoldts-kalaetron-attack-develops-quickly/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: https://www.hensoldt.net/news/hensoldts-kalaetron-attack-develops-quickly/ This is for Typhoon ECR, right? btw, I found some interesting photo. Spoiler Hungarian Gripen is loading AIM-120 on BOL launcher. missiles are depending on the type of pylon equipped with a BOL launcher. ex) LAU-128 with BOL = can load AIM-120 Spoiler Typhoon can load AMRAAM on outboard wing pylon 4 and 10(station 6), this means Typhoon can carry 4 BOL launcher with 6 AMRAAM + 2 IRIS-T loadout. I think this would be more useful than the 4 IRIS-T + 4 AMRAMM loadout Edited May 15, 2023 by MBDA_Meteor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 22 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: This is for Typhoon ECR, right? correct 29 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: btw, I found some interesting photo. --snip-- it should technically be possible to mount more AMRAAMs on the centre and inboard wing pylons as well. they're all wired up to support weapons. that aside, 4x bol dispensers would be really nice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: it should technically be possible to mount more AMRAAMs on the centre and inboard wing pylons as well. they're all wired up to support weapons. Oh really, I couldn't find any data with such content. can you share it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Oh really, I couldn't find any data with such content. can you share it? there isnt a lot to be honest... Eurofighter Technology and Performance : Weapon Systems (archive.org) on the german wikipedia page it says it can carry 12 a2a missiles which alignes with the amount of hardpoints (13 minus 1 for the centre pylon) but they dont have a citation for that so id have to look through the sources to find that there's also that one beast mode illustration and i dont see why it would only do (highly advanced) air to ground weapons on those pylons. that would only make sense if there was some sort of avionics-to-missile datalink limit but that seems rather unlikely i am also having massive doubts about the validity of those "Manuals" because they show a bunch of typos... Edited May 15, 2023 by Faster_Boiiiii Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: there isnt a lot to be honest... Eurofighter Technology and Performance : Weapon Systems (archive.org) on the german wikipedia page it says it can carry 12 a2a missiles which alignes with the amount of hardpoints (13 minus 1 for the centre pylon) but they dont have a citation for that so id have to look through the sources to find that there's also that one beast mode illustration and i dont see why it would only do (highly advanced) air to ground weapons on those pylons. that would only make sense if there was some sort of avionics-to-missile datalink limit but that seems rather unlikely Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Spoiler But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Spoiler The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. 49 minutes ago, Faster_Boiiiii said: i am also having massive doubts about the validity of those "Manuals" because they show a bunch of typos... which "Manuals" do you mean? Edited May 15, 2023 by MBDA_Meteor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Iluminas_ 3,769 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Hide contents But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Reveal hidden contents The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. which "Manuals" do you mean? The loadout shown in the picture from u would include 2 droptanks on the wing wich could be replaced with Meteor/Iris-T Edit: here on this site is an oversight on possible loadouts it dosnt mention the swap but it is possible https://eurofighter.airpower.at/bewaffnung.htm Edit2: in the top it actually says that there are 3 hardpoints for heavy loads +1 for Iris-T/AMRAAM on each wing with the possibility for droptanks (Unter jedem Flügel befinden ich vier Außenlaststationen. Davon ist eine exklusiv vorgesehen für das Mitführen von WVR-Luft/Luft-Lenkwaffen sowie drei für das Mitführen schwererer Außenlasten, davon eine optional auch für einen Außentank. ) Edited May 15, 2023 by _Iluminas_ 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Reveal hidden contents But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Reveal hidden contents The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. which "Manuals" do you mean? Quote The two outboard-most rails are for the exclusive use of Short Range Air to Air Missiles (SRAAMs). All of the pylons contain sophisticated electronics forming the last link in the ACS. The pylon systems, featuring MIL-STD-1760 databuses are responsible for arming, releasing and maintaining the attached ordnance. In addition to the wing pylons there are four conformal recessed troughs under the fuselage for the exclusive use of Medium Range Air to Air Missiles (MRAAMs). These mounts were designed for an AMRAAM class missile but the front two stations can accept both the British Sky Flash and Italian Aspide systems. In total the basic Typhoon configuration can carry, in various combinations, up to 10 missiles, two more than the U.S. F-22 Raptor and the same as an Su-35/30 in basic configurations. The manual um referring to is the one you sent an excerpt from. It contains things that can be confirmed but the typos really don't add to its credibility If you really want to get into the technical details then here is a document on the databus https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA255714.pdf Edited May 15, 2023 by Faster_Boiiiii 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 17, 2023 they're continually doing flight tests so we might even see some tests on Eurofighter soon. The Eurofighter jammer will probably have 2 of these AESAs(one in the front and one in the rear) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted May 23, 2023 Dont know where to put this but here's a paper on Laser designators and similar stuff(relevant for the GBU-48 i guess) https://www.sto.nato.int/publications/STO Technical Reports/RTO-AG-300-V26/$$AG-300-V26-ALL.pdf 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBDA_Meteor 20 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 Spoiler 96821040-Aviation-Eurofighter-Typhoon.pdf Is this data is reliable? I found it while swimming in the sea of the Internet. However, no institution/presenter notation exists. I doubt the information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MythicPi 593 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Hide contents 96821040-Aviation-Eurofighter-Typhoon.pdf 2.51 MB · 0 downloads Is this data is reliable? I found it while swimming in the sea of the Internet. However, no institution/presenter notation exists. I doubt the information. seems pretty extensive to be a spook, not that I can read german Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster_Boiiiii 753 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, MBDA_Meteor said: Hide contents 96821040-Aviation-Eurofighter-Typhoon.pdf 2.51 MB · 3 downloads Is this data is reliable? I found it while swimming in the sea of the Internet. However, no institution/presenter notation exists. I doubt the information. judging by the contents its probably from 2000-2010 and as such there's some... well lets say optimistic things in there. like the ARMIGER for example(discussed that in another thread here) or that Tranche 3 would include the AMSAR radar(CAPTOR-E was chosen instead although it does mention that the captor-e would be cheaper and thus more likely to be chosen) and TVC(hasn't happened yet). no sources so it could in theory be all garbage and it can't be used as a source Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball_2020 467 Report post Posted June 13, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 13:14, MBDA_Meteor said: Thanks for share! but I cannot found they mentioned 10+ AA Missile pylons... loadout picture says only 8 pylons can carry AA missiles. Reveal hidden contents But they mentioned two MRAAM class missiles can be loaded on the inner outboard pylon, and there's a photo that's actually fitted! The 10 AA missiles they mentioned seem to mean this. Hide contents The reason it wasn't distributed is because... I think it will be a budget problem facing the army of every country. which "Manuals" do you mean? Thats superb! That is why your source(be careful sending that here) states 4 pylons are missile capable but also says it can carry 10 missiles total. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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i think the Meteor also deserves its own post as the primary long range weaponry of the 3 Eurocanards but I haven't really looked into that too much yet so I'm lacking sources.
@MBDA_Meteor do you have any to share?
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