Chinese Coastal Tech Tree

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Chinese Coastal Tree

 

Hey wait, a Chinese Navy tree suggestion already exists!

Yeah, but it's for the older combined naval forces tree layout, and is a little limited in vehicle selection. This tree is more fleshed out IMO.

 

Some filler history for the Chinese Navy(ies)

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By the 20th century, the Chinese Navy was in tatters, with the Sino-French and Sino-Japanese Wars having destroyed most of its fleets. Such matters weren't helped when the ruling Qing Dynasty was overthrown in the Xinhai Revolution in 1911, which led to some ships currently under construction to be cancelled. The new Republican government took what remained of the navy, and actually ordered new relatively modern ships from the West, but they too were cancelled when the Great War broke out. It was only in the Interwar era that new large ships were acquired, some ironically with Japanese assistance, which were then destroyed in the Second Sino-Japanese War. Post-war, the navy essentially had to start anew, and a fair number of ships were given to rebuild its navy from the Allies and as reparations, and its first engagement would be in the Chinese Civil War, with the navy split between the Communists and Nationalists. When the Nationalists retreated to Taiwan after the loss of the mainland, it was up to their respective naval forces to wrest supremacy in the Taiwan Strait, but whatever planned landings were ended with the outbreak of the Korean War. But as the Korean War ended, both sides started a naval build up, sponsored by the USSR and USA, with the PLAN receiving old Soviet vessels and the plans to produce their own, while the ROCN were given old American destroyers, frigates, and coastal vessels. The two sides would then intermittently fight throughout the Cold War, but due to continued US intervention neither side could achieve their goals. Elsewhere, the PLAN has fought in the South China Sea, most notably in the Paracel Islands and Johnson South Reef, fighting both the former Republic of Vietnam Navy and Vietnam People's Navy.

 

Bonus Manchukuo naval history:

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In 1931, after the Mukden Incident and Japanese invasion of Northeast China, the puppet state of Manchukuo was established. The Jiang Shang Fleet, the naval arm of the Manchukuo state, was established from the remains of the Northeast Defence Fleet, which was already battered after its defeat during the Sino-Soviet War of 1929. Japanese advisors and officers were sent to help reorganize the fleet and a few obsolete ships were transferred and new river gunboats built. It mainly operated in the Songhua and Wusuli Rivers with a few of its largest vessels operating from Dalian in the Bohai Sea. In 1938 it was subordinated under the Kwantung Army and renamed the Jiang Shang Army. In 1945 the Soviet Union formally declared war on Japan and invaded Manchukuo, quickly defeating the Kwantung and Jiang Shang armies. The fleet fought the Amur River Flotilla on the Songhua River, but before long the crews rebelled and murdered the Japanese officers. The remnants of the fleet retreated to Harbin where it declared loyalty to the Republic of China, albeit that didn't stop the Soviet Army from taking them prisoner and capturing the ships.

 

The tree itself:

Coastal BRs are really weird and compressed, so my judgement may not be the best for the BRs. Names are in Pinyin, PLAN ships have it as one word, ROCN ships separate each character.

 

Unlike my exercise for a Baltic States Coastal Tree, most vessels here are interwar-cold war to keep with the current time period of coastal naval.

 

I only have solid academic sources on interwar-just post war vessels, so some of the specifications may be wrong.

 

The "event" vehicles are ones I've removed from the actual tree, but I might want to re-add later

 

Tree Overview:
Line 1: "Fast Attack Craft"

Generally torpedo boats, with the odd fast MGB and Missile Boat (BRs meant for non-functional missiles). Avoided dedicated missile boats like the Type 024 or Hai Ou as their gun armament is rather weak.

Line 2: Gunboats

All sorts of small gunboats, builds up to corvettes and large gunboats. I don't know what's the line that a vehicle is designated a "frigate/gunboat" and gets a DD spawn, but I assume it's size based, a length of >70m?
 

Line 3: Large Vessels
Starts with interwar gunboats, finishes with frigates. One frigate has SAMs, might as well have them be usable to make things interesting (Side note: Yes, frigates are considered blue-water vessels, but Gaijin has chosen to implement them into coastal trees... unless they are German). Grouped Japanese Escort Ships here too. There's a lot of frigate-sized options for Rank IV and V.

 

Line 4-5: Premium and Squadron

A few, more or less copy-paste vessels (Fang 1, No.158, Kunming), export, and Manchukuo ships, and some interesting ships that couldn't fit in the tree.

 

Rank I

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Yue 22

S-7-class MTB, German-built, ROCN

Dimensions: 32.4m x 5.06m x 1.21m

Displacement: 80t std, 95t full

Speed: 36.5 kts

Crew: 21

Armament:

1x1 20mm C/30

2x1 533mm TT

 

PB-60

PB-42-class Patrol Boat, locally-built, ROCN, first ship type built in Taiwan

Dimensions: 12.8m x 3.5m x 1m

Displacement: 11t full

Speed: 32 kts

Crew: 4

Armament:

1x1 40mm Bofors Mk.3

 

Fan Gong (PT-513) ("Counterattack")

72ft Vosper Patrol Boat, US-built, ROCN, alternate romanization "Fan Kong"

Dimensions: 21.6m x 5.8m x 1.5m

Displacement: 39t std, 46t full

Speed: 42 kts

Crew: 12

Armament:

1x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x2 12.7mm M2

2x1 533mm TT?

 

No.414 "Toumenshan Haizhan Yingxiong Ting" (Toumenshan Naval Battle Hero Boat)

IJN 25-ton Gunboat, Japanese-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 18.9m x 3.8m x 1.2m

Displacement: 20t std, 25t full

Speed: 11 kts

Crew: 14

1x1 25mm Type 96

1x1 7.7mm Type 92

 

Jiefang ("Liberation")

Landing Craft, Control Mk.1, US-built, PLAN

Dimension: 17m x 4.42m x 1.21m

Displacement: 28t full

Speed: 13.5 kts

Crew: 19

Armament:

1x1 25mm Type 96

2x1 12.7mm Ho-103

 

Type 52A

Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 24.6m x 4.25m x 1.16m

Displacement: 50t full

Speed: 12 kts

Crew: ??

1x1 25mm 72-K

1x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x1 12.7mm DShK

8 DCs

 

Hai Long (Sea Dragon)

Hai Long-class Guard Ship, Japanese-built, Jiang Shang Army (Manchukuo), similar to the No.1 Type subchaser

Dimensions: 45.27m x 6.2m x 1.38m

Displacement: 184t full

Speed: 14 kts

Crew: ??

2x1 75mm Type 88

2x1 7.7mm Type 92 HMG

2 DCT

 

Rank II

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Xue Chi (PT-2) ("Shame/Disgrace")

FuChou-class MTB, Japanese-built, ROCN, alternate romanization "Hsueh Chih"

Dimensions: 21m x 6.1m x 0.79m

Displacement: 33t std, 42t full

Speed: 40 kts

Crew: 12

Armament:

1x1 40mm Bofors

1x2 20mm Oerlikon

2x1 450mm TT

 

No.119 "Yingxiong Kuaiting" (Hero Speedboat)

Pr.123K MTB, Soviet-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 19.5m x 3.7m x 1m

Displacement: 19.3t std, 22.4t full

Speed: 46 kts

Crew: 9

1x2 14.5mm KPV

2x1 450mm 45-36

 

Ning Hai (PCL-1)

Ning Hai-class Fast Patrol Boat, locally-built, ROCN

Dimensions: 32m x 9m x 1.8m

Displacement: 100t std, 143t full

Speed: 40 kts

Crew: 16

Armament:

1x1 40mm Bofors Mk.3

1x1 20mm T75

2 DCR

 

Type 53A (early)

Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 27m x 4.1m x 1.2m

Displacement: 42t std, 50t full

Speed: 14 kts

Crew: 25

1x1 37mm 70-K

1x1 25mm Type 96

2x1 12.7mm Ho-103

 

Type 53A (late)

Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 27m x 4.1m x 1.2m

Displacement: 42t std, 50t full

Speed: 14 kts

Crew: 25

1x1 37mm 70-K

1x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x1 12.7mm DShK

 

Xianfeng ("Pioneer/Vanguard")

No.1 type Auxiliary Sub-chaser, Japanese-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 29.2m x 5.65m x 1.8m

Displacement ~130t std

Speed: 11 kts

Crew: ~32

Armament:

2x1 37mm 70-K

2x1 12.7mm DShK

 

Tai Yuan

River Gunboat, locally-built, ROCN, ex-IJN Tatara, USS Wake

Dimensions: 48.6m x 8.25m x 1.55m

Displacement: 370t std, 395t full

Speed: 12.5 kts

Crew: 70

Armament:

3x1 25mm type 96

3x1 13.2mm type 93

2x1 7.7mm Type 92

 

Yong Jian

Yong Jian-class Gunboat, locally-built, ROCN, alternate romanization Yung Chien

Dimensions: 65.6m x 9.00m x 3.5m

Displacement: 860t std, 1039t full

Speed: 13 kts

Crew: 105

Armour: 25mm deck

Armament:

1x1 4-inch BL Mk.VII Armstrong

1x1 3-inch 12pdr Armstrong 

4x1 47mm Hotchkiss

2x1 37mm 1pdr Maxim

 

Rank III

Spoiler

Type 6625

Hydrofoil MTB, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 21.5m x 6.7m x 1.83m

Displacement: 34.5t std, 39.6t full

Speed: 55 kts

Crew: 16

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x1 533mm Yu-1

 

Type 025

Hydrofoil MTB, locally-built, PLAN, (main difference from 6625 being retractable hydrofoil)

Dimensions: 21.5m x 6.7m x 1.83m

Displacement: 34.5t std, 39.6t full

Speed: 55 kts

Crew: 16

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x1 533mm Yu-1

 

Type 026

Hydrofoil MTB, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 21.8m x 6.3m x ~1.83m

Displacement: 39t std, 46t full

Speed: 50 kts

Crew: 16

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x1 533mm Yu-1

 

Min Jiang (PGM-107)

No.4 type Subchaser, Japanese-built, ROCN, ex-No.9

Dimensions: 56.2m x 5.6m x 2.1m

Displacement 309t full

Speed: 20 kts

Crew: ~59

Armament:

1x2 40mm Vickers

3x1 25mm Type 96

2 DCR

 

Ou Jiang (PC-102)

PGM-9 class MGB, US-built, ROCN, ex PGM-26, alternate romanization Ou Kiang

Dimensions: 52.9m x 7m x 3.3m

Displacement: 414t std, 450t full

Speed: 20 kts

Crew: 65

Armament:

1x1 3-inch Mk.10

1x2 40mm Bofors Mk.1

4x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x1 12.7mm M2

 

Min Quan

Anti-aircraft Gunboat, locally-built, ROCN, alternate romanization Ming Chuen

(this is a replica of the original which was scrapped in the 80s)

Dimensions: 61.8m x 7.9m x 1.8m

Displacement: 455t std, 500t full

Speed: 16.6 kts

Crew: 146

Armament:

1x1 3-inch Mk.10

1x1 75mm Type 88

1x1 40mm 2pdr Mk.IIc?

4x1 25mm Type 96

2x1 12.7mm M2?

 

Zhong Shan

Yong Feng-class Gunboat, Japanese-built, ROCN, alternate romanization Chung Shan

Dimensions: 66m x 8.8m x 3.05m

Displacement: 830t std, 1020t full

Speed: 13.5 kts

Crew: 108

Armour: 25.4mm deck

Armament:

1x1 10.5cm SK L/40

1x1 3-inch 12pdr QF Armstrong

4x1 47mm Hotchkiss

1x1 40mm 2pdr 

2x1 37mm 1pdr Maxim

2x1 7.92mm Madsen

 

Xian Ning

Gunboat, locally-built, ROCN, alternate romanization Hsien Ning

Dimensions: 54.9m x 7.31m x 1.82m

Displacement: 418t std

Speed: 16 kts

Crew: 115

Armament:

1x1 120mm 3rd year type

1x1 3-inch Armstrong QF

1x1 76mm 11 year type?

2x1 57mm Hotchkiss

1x1 20mm autocannon

4x1 MGs

 

 

Rank IV

Spoiler

Type 6702

MTB, locally-built, PLAN, steel-hulled Pr.183/Type 02

Dimensions: 25m x 6.06m x 1.37m

Displacement: 66t full

Speed: 43 kts

Crew: 16

2x2 25mm Type 61

2x1 533mm Yu-1

12 DC

 

Type 027IIB

MTB, locally-built, PLAN, last Chinese torpedo boat design

Dimensions: 28.4m x 6.3m x 1.7m

Displacement: 88t full

Speed: 34 kts

Crew: 16

2x2 25mm Type 61

4x1 533mm Yu-1

 

Type 55A

Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN, gunboat derivative of Type 02

Dimensions: 25m x 6.06m x 1.8m

Displacement: 80t full

Speed: 22.5 kts

Crew: 17

2x2 37mm Type 61

2x1 12.7mm Type 54

 

No.611 "Yingxiong Ting" (Hero Boat)

Type 062/Type 0111A Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN

Dimension: 38.8m x 5.4m x 1.7m

Displacement: 113t std, 135 full

Speed: 30 kts

Crew: 38

2x2 37mm Type 61

2x2 25mm Type 61

 

Guangzhou

Castle-class Corvette, UK-built, PLAN, ex-HMS Nunney Castle, alternate romanization Kuang Chou

Dimensions: 76.8m x 11.2m x 4.19m

Displacement: 1060t std, 1630t full

Speed: 16.5 kts

Crew: 120

3x1 130mm B-13

3x2 37mm V-11

2x1 37mm 70-K

 

Nanchang

Hashidate-class Frigate, Japanese-built, PLAN, ex-IJN Uji, flagship of the East China Sea Fleet

Dimensions: 80.5m x 9.7m x 2.62m

Displacement: 1205t std, 1350t full

Speed: 20.2 kts

Crew: 178-184

Armament:

2x1 130mm B-13

4x2 37mm Type 61

1x1 37mm 70-K

 

Nanning

Etorofu-class Escort Ship, Japanese-built, PLAN, ex-IJN Manju, flagship of the South China Sea Fleet

Dimensions: 77.7m x 9.1m x 3m

Displacement: 870t std, 1020t full

Speed: 19.7 kts

Crew: 150

Armament: 

3x1 100mm B-34

4x1 37mm 70-K

 

Nanchong

Type 65 Frigate, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 90m x 10.2m x 2.92m

Displacement: 1200t std, 1250t full

Speed: 20.5 kts

Crew: 148

Armament:

3x1 100mm Type 61

4x2 37mm Type 61

2x2 14.5mm Type 59

2x4 Type 1200 ASWRL

4 DCL

 

Rank V

Spoiler

Sui Jiang (PG-602)

Long Jiang-class Missile FAC, locally-built, ROCN

Dimensions: 50.2m x 7.3m x 2.3m

Displacement: 185t std, 240t full

Speed: 36 kts

Crew: 38

Armament:

1x1 76mm OTO-Melara

1x1 40mm Bofors L/70 350PX

2x1 12.7mm M2

4x1 Hsiung Feng I (pinyin: Xiong Feng) AShM

 

Lianjiang

Type 037II Missile Corvette, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 65.4m x 8.7m x 2.4m

Displacement: 520t std, 542t full

Speed: 33.6 kts

Crew: 47

Armament:

1x1 76mm PJ26

2x2 30mm Type 69

2x1 YJ-8A AShM

 

Changli

Type 037IS ASW corvette, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 62.8m x 7.2m x 2.2m

Displacement: 478t std

Speed: 28 kts

Crew: 71

Armament:

2x2 37mm Type 76A

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x6 Type 3200 ASWRL

2 DCL

 

Xinghua

Type 037 ASW Corvette, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 58.8m x 7.2m x 2.2m

Displacement: 375t std, 392t full

Speed: 30.5 kts

Crew: 78

Armament:

2x2 57mm Type 66

2x2 25mm Type 61

4x5 Type 1200 ASWRL

2 DCL

 

Yongjia

Type 037I ASW Corvette, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 62.8m x 7.2m x 2.2m

Displacement: 450t full

Speed: 28 kts

Crew: 71

Armament:

1x2 57mm Type 66

2x2 30mm Type 69

4x5 type 1200 ASWRL

2 DCL

 

Zheng'An (PF-76)

Mikura-class Escort Ship, Japanese-built, ROCN, ex-IJN Yashiro, alternate romanization Cheng An

Dimensions: 77.7m x 9.1m x 3.05m

Displacement: 940t std, 1020t full

Speed: 19.7 kts

Crew: 160

Armament:

2x1 5-inch/38 Mk.12

2x2 40mm Bofors Mk.3

1x1 40mm Bofors Mk.3

5x1 20mm Oerlikon

 

Tai Yuan (DE-27)

Rudderow-class Destroyer Escort, US-built, ROCN, ex-USS Riley

Dimensions: 93.3m x 11.3m x 3.4m

Displacement: 1430t std, 1811t full

Speed: 23 kts

Crew: 200

2x1 5-inch/38 (127mm) Mk.30

2x2 40mm Bofors

4x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x3 324mm TT

1x24 Hedgehog Mortar

2 DCR

 

Zhongdong

Type 053K Frigate, locally-built, PLAN 

Dimensions: 103m x 10.8m x 3.1m

Displacement: 1674t std, 1924t full

Speed: 28 kts

Crew: 198

Armament:
2x2 100mm Type 79

3x2 37mm Type 76

2x4 Type 81 ASWRL

2 DCL, 2 DCR

 

Yingtan

Type 053K Frigate, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 103m x 10.8m x 3.1m

Displacement: 1674t std, 1924t full

Speed: 28 kts

Crew: 198

Armament:
2x2 100mm Type 79

3x2 37mm Type 76

2x2 HQ-61 SAM

2x5 Type 1200 ASWRL

2 DCL, 2 DCR

 

Jiujiang

Type 053H Fire Support Frigate, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 103m x 10.8m x 3.2m

Displacement: 1425t std, 1662t full

Speed: 26 kts

Crew: 190

Armament:
2x2 100mm Type 79A

3x2 37mm Type 76

5x50 122mm H/JJ12 RL

2x5 Type 1200 ASWRL

 

Premiums:

Spoiler

An Ping

IJN T-25 MTB, Japanese-built, ROCN

Dimensions: 18m x 4.3m x 0.65m

Displacement: 21t std, 25.4t full

Speed: 25.9 kts

Crew: 7

1x1 25mm Type 96

2x1 450mm Torpedoes

 

Da Tong (Great Unity)

Da Tong-class River Gunboat, Japanese-built, Jiang Shang Army (Manchukuo)

Dimensions: 30m x 2m x 0.75m

Displacement: 65t full

Speed: 10.5 kts

Crew: ??

1x1 57mm Hotchkiss 6-pdr

3x1 6.5mm Type 38 or Type 3

 

Fang 1

Harbour Defence Motor Launch, UK-built, ROCN, ex-ML 1033

Dimensions: 22m x 4.88m x 1.52m

Displacement: 46t std, 54t full

Speed: 11.8 kts

Crew: 12

Armament:

1x1 40mm 2pdr QF Mk.IIc

1x1 20mm Oerlikon MK.II

2x2 7.7mm Vickers GO No.5

6 DCs

 

No.158 "Gongxun Yuleiting" (Meritorious Torpedo Boat)

Pr.123-bis MTB, USSR-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 18.7m x 3.43m x 0.75m 

Displacement: 18t std, 21t full

Speed: 48 kts

Crew: 7

2x2 12.7mm DShK

2x1 450mm 45-36

 

Xian Ning (PCE-79)

Azio-class Gunboat, Italian-built, ROCN, ex-IJN Okitsu, RN Lepanto, alternate romanization Hsien Ning

Dimensions: 62.2m x 8.7m x 3m

Displacement 700t std?

Speed: 15 kts

Crew: ~153

Armament:

2x1 3-inch Mk.22

2x4 1.1-inch Chicago Piano

4x1 20mm Oerlikon

 

Luzhou

Type 6604 Sub-chaser, locally-built, PLAN, licensed Pr.122

Dimensions: 51.7m x 6.2m x 2.4m

Displacement: 289t std, 319.6t full 

Speed: 18 kts

Crew: 60

Armament:

1x1 85mm 90-K

2x1 37mm 70-K

3x2 14.5mm Type 59

2x5 Type 1200 ASWRL

2 DCR

 

FuBo

Flower-class corvette, UK-built, ROCN, ex-HMS Petunia, alternate romanization FuPo (funny forum auto-censoring)

Dimensions: 62.5m x 10.1m x 3.51m

Displacement: 925t std, 1170t full

Speed: 16.5 kts

Crew: 109

Armament:

1x1 4-inch BL Mark IX

1x1 40mm 2pdr QF Mk.IIc

2x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x2 7.7mm Vickers GO No.5

 

No.5220

Early Type 6625 MTB, locally-built, PLAN, modified Pr.184 (there's nothing special about No.5220, except Navypedia mistakes it for a Pr.123 MTB)

Dimensions: 21.5m x 4.9m x 2.1m

Displacement 31.5t std, 34.1t full

Speed: 46 kts

Crew: 16

Armament:

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x1 533mm Yu-1

 

VT 53

R704 Hydrofoil MTB, Chinese-built, Romanian People's Navy, export version of Type 026

Dimensions: 21.8m x 6.3m x 1.83m

Displacement: 34.5t std, 39.6t full

Speed: 50 kts

Crew: 16

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x1 533mm Yu-1

 

Azarakhsh  No.611 (Thunderbolt)

C 14 type FAC, Chinese-built, IRIN/IRGCN 

Dimensions: 13.8m x 4.8m x 0.7m

Displacement: 20t std

Speed: 50 kts

Crew: 10

Armament:

1x1 23mm ZU-23

1x1 12.7mm MGD

1x16 107mm Fajr-1

 

NNS Sagbama (P184)

Modified Type 062 Patrol Boat, Chinese-built, Nigeria Navy

Dimensions: 46m x 7.0m x 1.96m

Displacement: 335t full

Speed: 23 kts

Crew: 45

Armament:

1x1 30mm H/PJ-14

2x1 12.7mm Type 54?

 

Jian Men (PCE-65)

Auk-class Minesweeper, US-built, ROCN, ex-USS Toucan, alternate romanization Chien Men

Dimensions: 67.4m x 9.8m x 3.28m

Displacement: 890t std, 1250t full

Speed: 18 kts

Crew: 80

Armament: 

2x1 3-inch Mk.22

2x2 40mm Bofors

2x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x3 324mm TT

1x24 Hedgehog Mortar

2 DCR

 

BNS Salem (P 712)

Type 021 Gunboat, Chinese-built, Bangladesh Navy, ex-BNS Durdharsha, missile boat converted to gunboat

Dimensions: 38.6m x 7.6m x 2.7m

Displacement: 171t std, 205t full

Speed: 35 kts

Crew: 28

Armament:

1x1 40mm Bofors L/70

1x2 30mm Oerlikon KCB

 

Kunming

Type 6601 Frigate, locally-built, PLAN, license-built Project 50 

Dimensions: 91.5m x 10.1m x 3.12m

Displacement: 1050t std, 1389t full

Speed: 28 kts

Crew: 190

Armament:

3x1 100mm Type 61

2x2 37mm Type 61

1x3 533mm TT

2x5 Type 1200 ASWRL

2 DCL

 

Shun Tian ("Obey Heaven")

Shun Tian-class River Gunboat, Japanese-built, Jiang Shang Army (Manchukuo), alternate romanization Shun Tien

Dimensions: 55m x 8.8m x 0.9m

Displacement: 270t full

Speed: 12.5 kts

Crew: 70

Armament:

1x2 120mm 10th year

1x1 88mm Type 99?

3x2 13.2mm Type 96

 

Squadron:

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Tai Ping (PF-22)

Evarts-class Destroyer Escort, US-built, ROCN, ex-USS Decker

Dimensions: 88.7m x 10.8m x 3.07m

Displacement: 1192t std, 1416t full

Speed: 19.5 kts

Crew: 156

Armament:

3x1 3-inch Mk.22

1x4 1.1-inch Chicago Piano

9x1 20mm Oerlikon

1x24 Hedgehog 

8 DCL, 2 DCR

 

Ding Bian ("Pacified Border")

Qin Ren-class River Gunboat, Japanese-built, Jiang Shang Army (Manchukuo), alternate romanization Ting Pien

Dimensions: 58m x 8.8m x 0.9m

Displacement: 290t full

Speed: 13 kts

Crew: 90

Armament:

1x2 120mm 10th year

1x1 120mm 10th year

3x2 13.2mm Type 96

 

Removed from tree (kept here in case I want to re-add them)

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42-ton Gunboat

Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN

Dimension: ??

Displacement: 42t full

Speed: 12 kts

Crew: ??

Armament:

3x1 12.7mm Ho-103

 

43-ton Gunboat

Gunboat, locally-built, PLAN

Dimension: ??

Displacement: 43t full

Speed: 11.7 kts

Crew: ??

Armament:

2x1 25mm Type 96

1x1 12.7mm Ho-103

 

These two vehicles have far too little information available to be viable additions, they're kinda interesting, some of the first domestic warships made for the PLAN.

 

Type 057K

Minesweeper, locally-built, PLAN

Dimensions: 40m x 8m x 3.5m

Displacement: ~170t std, 204t full

Speed: 8 kts

Crew: ?

Armament:

1x2 37mm Type 61

2x2 14.5mm Type 59

 

8 kts and not even heavily armed? No one has that much patience.

 

Zhang Jiang (PC-118)

PC-461-class Sub-chaser, US-built, ROCN, ex-PC-1232

Dimensions: 52.9m x 7.06m x 3.3m

Displacement 414t std, 463t full

Speed: 19 kts

Crew: 65

Armament:

1x1 3-inch Mk.10

1x1 40mm Bofors Mk.3

4x1 20mm Oerlikon

2x4 Mousetrap MK.20 ASWRL

2 DCL, 2 DCR

 

Redundant because of Ou Jiang, replaced by Min Jiang

 

Type 026 (Planing)

MTB, locally-built, PLAN, non-hydrofoil Type 026

Dimensions: 21.8m x 6.3m x 2.1m

Displacement 34.5t std, 39.6t full

Speed: ~46 kts

Crew: 16

Armament:

2x2 14.5mm Type 69

2x1 533mm Yu-1

 

Replaced by 5220 and VT 53.

 

Lin'An (PF-77)

Etorofu-class Escort Ship, Japanese-built, ROCN, ex-IJN Tsushima

Dimensions: 77.7m x 9.1m x 3m

Displacement: 870t std, 1020t full

Speed: 19.7 kts

Crew: 150

Armament: 

1x1 120mm 10th year type

1x1 76mm 3rd year type

4x2 25mm Type 96

 

Too many frigates in the tree tbh, so I cut the one that was unmodified

 

Also here's the first version of the tree:

 

Sources:

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Chen Yue. (2013) Minguo Haijun Jianchuan Zhi: 1912–1937 [Record of the Republic of China Navy's Warships: 1912–1937]. Shandong Huabao Chubanshe

Chen Yue. (2016) Minguo Haijun Jianchuan Zhi: 1938–1945 [Record of the Republic of China Navy's Warships: 1938–1945]. Shandong Huabao Chubanshe

Chen Yue. (2021) Kangzhan Shenglio Riben Touxiang Jian Chuan Zhi [Japanese Surrender Ship Records]. Shandong Huabao Chubanshe. Kindle Edition. 

Baidu

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https://www.baike.com/wikiid/5944605562640094022?view_id=2e0zbfjuq7y800

https://baike.baidu.com/tashuo/browse/content?id=77a062420d4623d607bea95b

Haijun360 (RIP)

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https://web.archive.org/web/20170409185655/http://www.haijun360.com/news/YLT/2011/1113/111113132319BF9823I6HAK4KI47500A.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170410003729/http://www.haijun360.com/news/YLT/2011/527/11527213526GBAKA48HF51I4A95B60J.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20181030022216/http://www.haijun360.com/news/XGBD/2013/628/13628101824J2E457AIKB6G4KDIKJ5I.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170409151633/http://www.haijun360.com/news/YLT/2011/527/1152720251115F1K406F60DDEB32C7C.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170409185052/http://www.haijun360.com/news/YLT/2011/527/1152721049GADCE096C0D30HJ772C4.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20130911050858/http://haijun360.com/news/XGBD/2013/628/13628103529GI8B2A5JAI8K9503FBD2.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170409182737/http://www.haijun360.com/news/YLT/2011/1113/111113142946HCI4BG58HF9J01IBIAJK.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171211041259/http://www.haijun360.com/news/LQJ/2011/611/11611155612F8EKDAE70JB1DKF5FD0J.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171211040827/http://www.haijun360.com/news/LQJ/2011/611/1161115153D92F6I0K74CKDGI9AH9F.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171211041714/http://www.haijun360.com/news/LQJ/2011/611/1161115264I221E0DHIGE115K5980J.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171107184649/http://www.haijun360.com/news/6601X/2010/117/101172003G3CGKG0377G9H6ICD859.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171107184624/http://www.haijun360.com/news/65X-6601X/2010/117/10117191439544FF2IG1I2EDDHJ1IG3.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171107184252/http://www.haijun360.com/news/053K-JDJ/2010/1030/101030182418I3H39F9I6E8JE5JKJ5HA.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20171107184257/http://www.haijun360.com/news/053K-JDJ/2010/1030/10103018295297F29G3HKIKCA483A4D0.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170427071321/http://www.haijun360.com/news/QTFZCZ/2011/716/117161122460CJF45EGI0335A059E6F.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170411232456/http://haijun360.com/news/LQJ/2011/69/1169225947CGA9D4D7FEB0GF1A67F6.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170411174038/http://haijun360.com/news/SLJ/2011/1110/1111101051538EK8EGD24K918D15FH05.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170708232711/http://www.haijun360.com/news/053H/2010/1014/101014214226CACCHA4853J2DDG22JJ0.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170427063649/http://www.haijun360.com/news/DDT1/2011/528/115281958523003F08AIBI49GC0HE3G.html

kknews.cc

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https://kknews.cc/military/vr2xn3l.html

https://kknews.cc/military/yvpqx5g.html

https://kknews.cc/military/gj8r8vl.html

https://kknews.cc/military/3ernklo.html

https://kknews.cc/military/gz6pn4e.html

https://kknews.cc/military/pp4q9kj.html

https://kknews.cc/military/66mr9xq.html

mdc.idv.tw

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http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/rocnavy/PG601.htm

http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/china/pt-china-2.htm

http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/china/pc-china.htm

http://www.mdc.idv.tw/mdc/navy/rocnavy/FF932.htm Realized this ship was far too large even as a frigate

Misc Forums and Blogs

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https://blog.udn.com/stevejiau/6464050

https://army.chlin.com.tw/BBS/viewthread.php?tid=9901

https://www.facebook.com/groups/588088644675452/media/photos

https://zh-cn.facebook.com/ROCNAVY.tw/posts/1363766863801698/

http://bbs.5imx.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1551959

https://bangladeshdefence.blogspot.com/2010/11/frigates-name-pennant-number-class.html

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2020/05/

Navsource

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http://www.navsource.org/archives/11/02387.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/06/047.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/011232.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/12/11026.htm

ntu.edu.tw

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https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/de27taiyuen.htm

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pf76chengan.htm

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pc118.htm

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/msf65chienmen.htm

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pf77linan.htm

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pc102.htm

QQ posts

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https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20220314A0690L00

https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20220429A0EPO300

https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20220601A02AP900

https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20200820A067ID00

https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20210613A0805I00

https://page.om.qq.com/page/OXHv6aY7Y3VFfddslGmMPUEw0

https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20210627A03QRL00

https://new.qq.com/rain/a/20201104a0id3m00

WT Forums

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OG Suggestion:  https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/437405-prcroc-naval-tree/ (fun fact, the author of it posted this and then literally never logged in again)

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/557456-anyone-know-what-pt-boat-this-is/  

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/557602-s7-torpedo-boat/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/557569-japanese-25-ton-gunboat-for-china/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/566294-type-53a-gunboat/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/557011-rocn-xian-ning/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/565175-type-123b-mtb-no158-the-meritorious-torpedo-boat/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/564776-type-025-hydrofoil-torpedo-boat-walking-on-water/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/564642-type-026-hydrofoil-torpedo-boat-walking-on-water-ii/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/564779-type-027iib-torpedo-boat-the-last-torpedo-boat/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/491821-type-55a-shantou-class-gunboat-now-made-of-steel/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/495652-type-037-series-part-1-type-037-exports-a-submarine-chaser-of-many-names/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/499274-type-037-series-part-3-type-037is-product-improvements-for-the-post-cold-war-era/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/469005-rocs-lin-an-pf-77-on-the-trail-of-formosa/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/557809-no468-class-motor-torpedo-boat-t-35/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/572913-no-4-class-submarine-chaser-minjiang/

Zhihu

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https://www.zhihu.com/tardis/landing/yidian/art/91083295

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/50294215

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/53692147

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/26966882

https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/24939018

Navypedia and Wikipedia

Global Security

https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014117/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4405.html

https://cmano-db.com/cw/ship/China/
http://cmano-db.com/cw/ship/Taiwan/

http://www.mod.gov.cn/power/2019-04/21/content_4839892.htm

https://www.52fuqing.com/newsshow-859091.html

https://inf.news/taiwan/e022addf559d028fb2842f293d380739.html

https://www.mzfxw.com/e/action/ShowInfo.php?classid=18&id=115247

https://web.archive.org/web/20110530170335/http://60.250.180.26/ming/2402.html

https://www.xinouzhou.com/detail/302910

https://min.news/en/military/0a8c311df2c663cc35b88d5a5b9d3b40.html

https://weaponsystems.net/system/1191-Type-055A+Shantou+class

https://naval-encyclopedia.com/ww2/chinese-navy-1930-45.php

https://naval-encyclopedia.com/cold-war/chinese-warships.php

https://naval-encyclopedia.com/cold-war/taiwanese-navy.php

http://3d.jb.mil.cn/bqcl/plane/index.html

https://user.guancha.cn/main/content?id=99336&page=4

http://navyworld.narod.ru/Submarinul.htm#53

https://www.chinaflagnet.com/post.html?id=61b09aafa766af5ca1f00c65

https://twitter.com/kitsunefukka/status/949312363051692032

https://www.sohu.com/a/277717317_726007

http://k.sina.com.cn/article_6292645006_p17712248e02700m2c0.html?from=mil#/

 

Zanju13 for the epic TT maker

Zero_Seeker and hypilot for their help

 

UPT 2023-01-14: Added Fan Gong and Xue Chi, low rank ROCN MTBs, adjusted Ning Hai BR. TT is getting far too long to screenshot.

 

UPT 2023-01-16: Added Luzhou and the Type 057K, mid-rank sub-chaser and minesweeper, moved Ning Hai and Lin An to rank 3, moved Lin An to TT, adjusted Jiefang BR, added Xian Ning as a preliminary.

 

UPT 2023-01-17: Added Ou Jiang, mid-rank sub-chaser, removed Type 057K. 

 

UPT 2023-01-18: Added Min Quan and Jiujiang, low-rank gunboat and high-rank frigate, foldered a few ships, adjusted Tai Yuan (DE-27) and Zhongdong BR.

 

UPT 2023-01-19: Added Lianjiang, high-rank FAC.

 

UPT 2023-01-22: Added Shun Tian and Ding Bian, high-rank Manchukuo gunboats, one is a squadron vehicle, adjusted Yongjia BR.

 

UPT 2023-01-27: Added Nanchang, squadron gunboat, in case adding Manchukuo ships is not viable.

 

UPT 2023-02-10: Added An Ping and NNS Sagbama, premium reserve MTB and patrol boat, moved 414 to TT, adjusted BNS Salem BR.

 

UPT 2023-05-15: Added Min Jiang (stats just taken from the suggestion for it), removed Zhang Jiang and Lin'An as I feel they are redundant.

Moved a bunch of vehicles:

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PB-60 BR -> 1.3

Tai Yuan -> Rank 2, BR -> 2.0

Min Quan -> Rank 3

Ning Hai -> Rank 2

Luzhou -> Rank 2 premium

Tai Ping and Nanchang -> swapped

Xian Ning (PCE-79) -> Rank 2 premium, BR -> 2.3 (realized I had overtiered the thing lol)

 

UPT 2023-05-29: Added Hai Long and Da Dong, Manchukuo rank 1 gunboats, moved Ding Bian to rank 4 and lowered BR to 3.7.

Edited May 29, 2023 by RඞnminbiYඞn
I'm actually quite proud of this suggestion, it's the one I've worked hardest on

[leroyonly 4,311]

Open for discussion. 

[hypilot 123]

+1

I’ve actually made a list of most of the ships ROC operated (1911 onwards) and working on most of what the PLAN operated. It mostly comes from the Chinese naval museum website that’s now gone. 

I made it on my notes so formatting is bad

 

Also the list is not comprehensive. I mainly added ships that could work on game or were interesting.

 

Missing late Qing dynasty ships and a whole mess of small Japanese ships. 
 

ROCN China built/ modified ships and former Qing ships

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ROCN China 

    Domestic    Specifications 
    Weisheng (威胜)   1 x 120mm; 1 x 76mm; 4 x 7.9mm; 1 x 75 mm 
    Desheng (德胜)    Same as weisheng?
    Wu Sheng     Max speed: 11 knots         Guns: 
    Yong Sheng (勇胜)    Max speed: 10 knots                  Guns: same as Cheng Sheng but 7.9 are China type
    Yi Sheng (义胜)    Max speed: 10 knots         Guns: 1 x 75mm (bow); 2 x 7.9mm; 1 x 65mm 
    Cheng Sheng (诚胜)    Max speed: 12 knots         Guns: 1 x 76mm gun (bow); 1 x 57mm gun (stern); 2 x 7.9mm guns (port & starboard)
    Gong Sheng (公胜)    Max Speed: 12 knots         Guns: 1 x 37mm; 2 x 7.9mm
    Shun Sheng (顺胜)    Max speed: 10 knots      Guns: 1 x 76mm (bow); 1? x 37mm (stern); 4 x 7.9mm 
    Zheng Sheng (正胜)    
    Sui Sheng     
    Jie Sheng     
    Qing Tian    Max speed: 8 knots         Guns: 1 x 76mm (bow); 1 x 75mm gun(stern); 2 x 7.9mm guns

 

    Start of “Golden Era” of Nationalist shipbuilding
    Xian Ning     Suggested
    Yong Sui    
    Min Quan    
    Yat Sen    
    Min Sheng    
    Ning Hai    Suggested
    Ping Hai    Suggested

 

    Small “Ning” patrol gunboats
    Jiang Ning (江宁)    11 knots;    2 x 57mm, 3 x 0.30 cal
    Hai Ning (海宁)    Same as above?
    xxxx Ning (抚宁)    12 knots;    Same as above?
    Sui Ning (绥宁)    Same as above ?
        Bigger “Ning” ships
    Wei Ning (威宁)    11 knots; 
    Sun Ning (肃宁)    
    Chong Ning (崇宁)    
Last survivor,     Yin Ning (义宁)    Last survivor to Taiwan, battled w/ plaan
    Chang Ning (长宁)    11.39 knots
    Zheng Ning (长宁)    
        

Qing ships ready during ROC era 
Qing    ROC    Link
Jiang Xi    Yes        
Jiang Kun    Yes        
Ying Rui    Yes        
Zhao He    Yes        
Yongfeng    Yes        
Yong Xiang     Yes        
Yu Zhang     Yes       https://web.archive.org/web/20080930141021/http://60.250.180.26/ming/2108.html
Tong An    Yes        
Jian Kang    Yes        
Jian Zhong     Yes       https://web.archive.org/web/20080610090735/http://60.250.180.26/ming/2110.html
Yong An    Yes        
Gong chen    Yes        
Li Chuan           https://web.archive.org/web/20080624030637/http://60.250.180.26/ming/2111.html
Yong jian           https://web.archive.org/web/20080930141026/http://60.250.180.26/ming/2112.html
Yong ji             
            
            
 

ROCN former British ships

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ROCN British ships

Britain     ROCN    PLAN    
Aurora    Chung king    Huang He (1959), Pei Ching (1965), Kuang Chou   https://web.archive.org/web/20080915133451/http://60.250.180.26/war/3306.html
Mendip    Lin xxxx       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915133506/http://60.250.180.26/war/3307.html
Petunia    xxxx Bo       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915133511/http://60.250.180.26/war/3308.html
HDML ML-1033", "1047", "1058", "1059", "1068", "1390","1405","1406"            https://web.archive.org/web/20080913214044/http://60.250.180.26/war/3309.html https://web.archive.org/web/20111108210817/http://60-250-180-26.hinet-ip.hinet.net/war/3309.html
HMSC Tillsonburg (castle class corvette)    Kao an       https://web.archive.org/web/20080914012028/http://60.250.180.26/war/3311.html
HMCS Orangeville    Te an        
HMCS Bowmanville        Ta shun, Yuan Pei,
Kuang Chou (1949)    
 

ROCN Japanese ships

 

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ROCN japan ship 

 

Japan    ROCN    PLAN        

Uji (gunboat)    Chang Zhi     Nan Chang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913173903/http://60.250.180.26/war/3102.html

Ataka (gunboat)    Andong    Andong    https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155731/http://60.250.180.26/war/3103.html

Lepanto (gunboat)    Xian Ning (Frigate)       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155736/http://60.250.180.26/war/3104.html  

No 101 class landing ship (No 144)     Tong an       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155845/http://60.250.180.26/war/3119.html  

No 103 class landing ship (No 172)     Lui Shan (AP-308)       https://web.archive.org/web/20080918040751/http://60.250.180.26/war/3212.html  

Type T-25 pt boat (25 tons)           https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155851/http://60.250.180.26/war/3120.html  

Type T-14 pt boat (15 tons)           https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155851/http://60.250.180.26/war/3120.html  

Navy 25t gunboat            https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155901/http://60.250.180.26/war/3122.html  Suggested

Yukikaze (destroyer)    Dan Yang        https://web.archive.org/web/20080915021854/http://60.250.180.26/war/3202.html  Suggested

Sugi (matsu class destroyer)    Hui yang       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193519/http://60.250.180.26/war/3203.html
Kaede     Heng yang             

Hatsuume (tachibana class destroyer)    Xin yang       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193524/http://60.250.180.26/war/3204.html  

Suggested
Tsuta     Hua yang            

Shisaka (Hiburi class)    Huian     Huian?   https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193529/http://60.250.180.26/war/3205.html  

Yashiro (Mikura class)    Chang an       https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pf76chengan.htm

No 14 (Type D escort ships)    Tsi nan    Wuchang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913214039/http://60.250.180.26/war/3206.html
No 40    Cheng an       https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pf72chengan.htm
No 104    Taian             
No 118    Chieh 12    Chang sha        
No 192    Tsuan            
No 194    Weihai     Tainan        
No 198    Hsian    Xian        

No 67 (type C escort ships)    Yingkan    Rui’an   https://web.archive.org/web/20080912044120/http://60.250.180.26/war/3207.html
No 81    Yuan     Sheng yang        
No 85    Shian     Shian        
No 107    Chaoan             
No 205    Chinan             
No 215    Liaohai            

Tsushima (etorofu class)    Lin an       https://web.archive.org/web/20081002042951/http://60.250.180.26/war/3208.html  Suggested
Oki    Gu an    Chang bai         

No 16 (No.1-class landing ship)    Wu yi (Bad condition)       https://web.archive.org/web/20080918040741/http://60.250.180.26/war/3210.html

    
Saishu (Hiroshima class)    Yungstin (PF-75)       https://web.archive.org/web/20080918040801/http://60.250.180.26/war/3214.html
No 9 (CH-4-class submarine chaser)    Haida, Fuling, Minjiang        https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193534/http://60.250.180.26/war/3215.html https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pc107.htm  

No 49 (No.13-class submarine chaser) AKA 28 class    Haihong, Yalong, Qujiang       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193534/http://60.250.180.26/war/3215.html                

  http://newnrch.digital.ntu.edu.tw/nrch/query.php?keyword=雅龍&advanced=              

No 14 (No 1 class auxiliary minesweeper)           https://web.archive.org/web/20080915064554/http://60.250.180.26/war/3216.html
No 22                
No 19                
 

ROCN USA ships received while in China

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ROCN USA ships

 

USN    ROCN    PLAN    

Wyffel (Evarts class DE)    Tai Kang       https://web.archive.org/web/20080610023101/http://60.250.180.26/war/3403.html
Decker    Tai Ping        
USS Thomas (DE-102) (Cannon class DE)    Taihe         
USS Bostwick (DE-103)     Taicang        
USS Breeman (DE-104)    Taihu        
USS Carter (DE-112)     Taizhao        

USS Lance (Admirable class minesweeper)     Yung Sheng       https://web.archive.org/web/20081003053803/http://60.250.180.26/war/3404.html
Logic    Yu Men        
Lucid    Yang Ming        
Magnet    Yong Ning        
Implicit    Yong Jia        
Pinnacle    Yong Xiu        
Pivot    Zi Ling        
Prime    Yong Feng         
Refresh    Lin Huai        
Gavia    Yong Chun        
Delegate    Yong He        
Elusive    Yong Kang        
Phantom    Yong Ming        
Nimble            
Reform            

PGM-20 (PGM-9 class)    Bao Ying, Yin Jiang       https://web.archive.org/web/20080610023111/http://60.250.180.26/war/3405.html
PGM-26    Hong Ze, Ou Jiang        
PGM-13    Dong Ting, Lin Jiang        
PC-492    Huang Pu, xxxx Kiang        
PC-1247    Jia Liang, To Kiang        

SC-704           https://web.archive.org/web/20080610063956/http://60.250.180.26/war/3406.html
SC-708            
SC-698            
YMS-339           https://web.archive.org/web/20080610064001/http://60.250.180.26/war/3407.html

 

ROCN USA ships received in Taiwan 

 

Spoiler

ROCN Taiwan Pt 1

 

USA/Other    ROCN    Source

(Benson Class) William Benson (DD-421)     Luo Yang   https://web.archive.org/web/20081002043417/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4101.html
Hilary P. Jones (DD-427)     Han Yang    
(Gleaves class) Rodman (DD-456)    Xian Yang    
Plunkett (DD-431)     Nan Yang    

(Fletcher class) Kimberly (DD-521)      An Yang    

https://web.archive.org/web/20081002043422/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4102.html
Yarnall (DD-541)     Kun Yang    
Twining (DD-540)    Gui Yang    
Mullany (DD-528)    Qing Yang    

(Allen M Sumner class) Brush (DD-745)     Xiang Yang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913201912/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4103.html
Samuel M. Moore (DD-747)    Heng Yang    
Bristol (DD-857)    Hua Yang    
Haynesworth (DD-700)    Yue Yang    
English (DD-696)    Hui Yang    
Maddox (DD-731)    Po Yang    
Taussig (DD-746)    Luo Yang    
John W. Thomason (DD-760)    Nan Yang    

(Gearing Class) Ernest G. Small (DD-838)    xxxx Yang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913214001/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4104.html
Lloyd Thomas (DD-764)    Dang Yang    
James E. Kyes (DD-787)    Jiang Yang    
Herbert J. Thomas (DD-833)    Han Yang    
Shelton (DD-790)    Lai Yang    
Hanson (DD-832)    Liao Yang    
Power (DD-839)    Shen Yang    
Richard B. Anderson (DD-786)    Kai Yang    
Sarfield (DD-837)    De Yang    
Leonard K. Mason (DD-852)    Sui Yang    
Hamner (DD-718)    Yun Yang    
Johnston (DD-821)    Zheng Yang    
Hollister (DD-788)    Shao Yang    
Hawkins (DD-873)    Zi Yang    

(Kidd class destroyer) USS-993 Kidd    1801基隆   https://web.archive.org/web/20081002043158/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4111.html
USS-994 Callaghan    1802蘇澳    
USS-995 Scott    1803左營    
USS-996 Chandler    1805馬公    

(Also see ROCN USA ship) Wyffel (Evarts class DE)    Tai Kang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913212433/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4105.html
Decker    Tai Ping    
USS Thomas (DE-102) (Cannon class DE)    Tai He    
USS Bostwick (DE-103)     Tai Cang    
USS Breeman (DE-104)    Tai     
USS Carter (DE-112)     Tai Zhao    

(Rudderow class) Riley (DE-579)    Tai Yuan   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913212437/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4106.html

(Crosley class) Kleinsmith (APD-134)    Tian Shan   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913201917/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4107.html
Kinzer (APD-91)    Yu Shan    
Donald W. Wolf (APD-129)    Hua Shan    
(Buckley class) Gantner (APD-42)    Wen Shan    
Bull (APD-78)    Lu Shan    
Walter B. Cobb (APD-106) LOST    LOST    LOST
Truxton (APD-98)    xxxx Shan    
Kline (APD-120)    Shou Shan    
Register (APD-92)    Tai Shan    
Raymond W. Hernton (APD-121)    Heng Shan    
George W. Ingram (APD-43)    Gang Shan    
Blessman (APD-48)    Zhong Shan    
Schmitt (APD-76)    Long Shan    

(Perry class missile frigate)     Cheng Kung   https://web.archive.org/web/20081002041752/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4108.html
    Cheng Ho    
    Ji Guang     
    Yue Fei    
    Zi Yi    
    Ban Chao    
    Zhang Qiu    
    Tian Shan    

(Knox Class Frigate)    Fong Yang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913212449/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4109.html
    Fen Yang    
    Lan Yang    
    Hwai Yang    
    Ni Yang    
    Yi Yang    

(La Fayette Class Frigate)    Kang Ding   https://web.archive.org/web/20080915235233/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4110.html
    Si Ning    
    Kun Ming    
    Di Hua    
    Wu Chang    
    Chen De    
 

ROCN Taiwan Pt 2

 

USA/Other    ROCN    Source 

(PCE-842 class) PCE-867     41 Yongtai (Shanhai)   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913201922/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4201.html
PCE-869    42 Yongxing (Viyuan)    
(Admirable class minesweeper) USS Lance (AM-257)    43 Yongsheng (Zhannan)    
    44 Yongshun (Yumen)    
    45 Yongding (Yangming)    
    46 Yongning    
    47 Yongjia    
    48 Yongxiu    
    49 Yongshou (Moling)    
    50 Yongfeng    
    51 Yongchang (Linhuai)    
    52 Yongchun    
    53 Yonghe    
    54 Yongkang    

(Auk class minesweeper) USS Toucan (AM-387)    45 Jianmen    https://web.archive.org/web/20081002040754/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4202.html
    866 Wusheng    
    867 Juyong     
    870 Pingjing    

PGM-20    101 Yinjiang (Bao Ying)    https://web.archive.org/web/20080913212455/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4203.html
PGM-13    102 Oujiang (Hong Ze)     
PGM-26     103 Lingjiang (Dongting)    

PC-1247    104 Tuojiang (Jialing)  (famous/outstanding record) http://newnrch.digital.ntu.edu.tw/nrch/query.php?keyword=魚雷快艇&advanced=
PC-492    105 Fujiang (Huangpu)    
    108 Xiangjiang    
    109 Zijiang     
    110 Yuanjiang     
    111 Lijiang     
    113 Gongjiang      
    114 Pojiang     
    115 Changjiang     
    116 Qingjiang    
    117 Zhujiang    
    118 Zhangjiang    
     119 Dongjiang    
    120 Xijiang    
    122 Beijiang     
    123 Liujiang    
    124 Hanjiang    
    125 Tuojiang (Qujiang)    

(SC-497-class submarine chasers) SC-648, etc     Destroy No. 1 ~ No. 12   https://web.archive.org/web/20080915133206/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4204.html
    601 Longjiang    https://web.archive.org/web/20080913212458/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4205.html
    602 Suijiang    
    603 Jinjiang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913214003/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4206.html
    605 Tamkang    
    606 Xinjiang    
    607 Fengjiang    
    608 Zengjiang    
    609 Gaojiang    
    610 Jinjiang    
    611 Xiangjiang    
    612 Zijiang    
    614 Pojiang    
    615 Changjiang    
    617 Zhujiang    
    155 Yongping   https://web.archive.org/web/20080913214010/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4207.html
    156 Yong'an    
    157 Yongnian    
    158 Yongchuan     
    159 Yongxin    
    160 Yongji    
    161 Yongle    
    162 Yongfu    
    163 Yongqing    
    164 Yongshan    
    165 Yongcheng    
    166 Yongji     
    167 Yongren    
    168 Yongsui    
    1301 Yongfeng   https://web.archive.org/web/20080914124552/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4210.html
    1302 Yongjia     
    1303 Yongding    
    1305 Yongshun    
    1306 Yongyang   https://web.archive.org/web/20080914124557/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4211.html
    1307 Yongci    
    1308 Yonggu    
    1309 Yongde    
    191 Zhongzheng (East China Sea)   https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193412/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4301.html
    192 Zhenhai    
    193 Xuhai   https://web.archive.org/web/20081002042946/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4301a.html

LST       https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193417/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4302.html

LCI    266 Lianjie   https://web.archive.org/web/20080915193427/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4305.html
    261 Lianzhu    
    262 Lianli    
    263 Liansheng    
    264 Lianzheng    
    265 Lianhua    
    266 Lianqiang    
    272 Lianren    
    273 Lianyong    
LSSL        

 

ROCN Taiwan Pt 3

 

USA/Other    ROCN    Source

    PT-1 Revenge   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014112/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4404.html

    Edit: anyone know what happened to the PF-1 suggestion? I can do a new one but the one posted was really good
    PT-2 Shame    

(71 ft PT boat?)    PTC-32 Counterattack   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014117/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4405.html
    PTC-33 Sweeping    

Elco 80ft?    PTC-34 Restoration   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014122/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4406.html
    PTC-35 Founding    

Hai-Ou class    FABG-1~FABG-68 Seagull-class missile speedboat   https://web.archive.org/web/20080914103321/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4407.html

Prototype of Kuang Hua VI    FACG-60   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014137/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4407a.html

    Hai Yao, Haiwei, Haijing, Haili, Jiang Ding, Jiang Lian, Jiang Feng, Jiang Gong, Jiang Lun, Jiang Cheng, Jiang Ping, Jiang Xiu, Jiang Ming, Jiang Shuo, Jiang Yi, Jiang Yong, Cannon-101 ~ Cannon 108, Nan'an, Huai'an, Haining, Jiguang, Tianxiang, Zhiping, Jianping,...   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014303/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4422.html

    HDML-1~HDML-4 Port Defense Boat   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014142/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4408.html

    PB-42~PB-74 Patrol Boat   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014152/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4409.html

    海狼101~109     1. https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014248/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4419.html      2. https://wakwb.com/p/?a=230940470167029376710

    341 Damao (Putuo), 542 Dawu (Martial Arts), 543 Daming, 544 Dahong, 545 Dayu, 546 Daqing, 547 Heavy Snow, 549 Dapeng, 550 Da'an   https://web.archive.org/web/20080914034901/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4520.html

    Hexing/Great Star   https://web.archive.org/web/20080920102251/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4606.html

    Baoxing/Jinxing   https://web.archive.org/web/20080920102256/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4608.html

    Haiping/Haicheng/Hai'an   https://web.archive.org/web/20080917153647/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4612.html

    116 Taipei, 122 Nantou   https://web.archive.org/web/20081002041429/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4701a.html

    117 Taichung, 118 Keelung, 119 Penghu, 120 Hualien   https://web.archive.org/web/20081002041806/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4701b.html

        
        

https://web.archive.org/web/20080912035403/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/tw6.html

 

edit: Some ships have xxxx in their name, it’s just the forum sensor.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 1, 2023 by hypilot

[DMYEugen 688]

+1 It's coming anyway.

[R_nminbiY_n 159]

11 minutes ago, hypilot said:

+1

I’ve actually made a list of most of the ships ROC operated (1911 onwards) and working on most of what the PLAN operated. It mostly comes from the Chinese naval museum website that’s now gone. 

I made it on my notes so formatting is bad

Oh, that's a very nice list. Too bad a lot of the images aren't archived, there's some ships I was researching but didn't add because I couldn't find a single image or even drawing. Though, I don't really know how to feel about landing craft or the really old Qing-era ships, they just seem a bit too... unwieldy.

 

3 minutes ago, DMYEugen said:

+1 It's coming anyway.

Probably, but at the same time, it's been 2.5 years since the last naval tree was added, and they still haven't added France. It'll take a loooong time, maybe we'll get like idk, F-18s before this lol.

[hypilot 123]

4 minutes ago, RenminbiYen said:

Oh, that's a very nice list. Too bad a lot of the images aren't archived, there's some ships I was researching but didn't add because I couldn't find a single image or even drawing. Though, I don't really know how to feel about landing craft or the really old Qing-era ships, they just seem a bit too... unwieldy.

Yeah, it’s a shame a lot of images aren’t saved. But the author seems to have gotten them from government archives.
 

Which ships are you missing an image? I might have a picture of them. 

 

Yeah,, I mainly put the landing crafts in just for the sake of it. Though the Japanese landing craft might be good as it has a bunch of 25mm guns. Some of the Qing ships may be good to help fill the bluewater fleet. 

[DMYEugen 688]

9 minutes ago, RenminbiYen said:

Probably, but at the same time, it's been 2.5 years since the last naval tree was added, and they still haven't added France. It'll take a loooong time, maybe we'll get like idk, F-18s before this lol.

Just a consequence of dealing with large and incredibly detailed models. I'm willing to wait.

[R_nminbiY_n 159]

16 minutes ago, hypilot said:

Yeah, it’s a shame a lot of images aren’t saved. But the author seems to have gotten them from government archives.
 

Which ships are you missing an image? I might have a picture of them. 

 

Yeah,, I mainly put the landing crafts in just for the sake of it. Though the Japanese landing craft might be good as it has a bunch of 25mm guns. Some of the Qing ships may be good to help fill the bluewater fleet. 

 

Currently I would like to find an image of Lin An (PF-77) in its early configuration with Japanese guns. 

 

But for new ships, I need some for the PT boats, https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014122/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4406.html and https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014117/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4405.html, one of the ex-IJN T-25 MTBs https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155851/http://60.250.180.26/war/3120.html, and maybe a higher res photo of Xian Ning (ex-Lepanto).

 

I could also use a picture of the Type 206 Gunboat, I find it really weird that despite being an "in-service" class, there's 0 pictures of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_206-class_gunboat Honestly I was thinking that it might not even exist and was just a misunderstanding or something.

 

Thanks for the help with this

Edited January 13, 2023 by RenminbiYen

[hypilot 123]

2 hours ago, RenminbiYen said:

 

Currently I would like to find an image of Lin An (PF-77) in its early configuration with Japanese guns. 

 

But for new ships, I need some for the PT boats, https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014122/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4406.html and https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014117/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4405.html, one of the ex-IJN T-25 MTBs https://web.archive.org/web/20080915155851/http://60.250.180.26/war/3120.html, and maybe a higher res photo of Xian Ning (ex-Lepanto).

 

Thanks for the help with this

So only have one of the PT-32/33. If the websites description is right one of them played in a movie as British CMB boat 102. 

 

 

https://youtu.be/PKoPELgjeqg

Lin An as Tsushima during her service with the IJN 

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pf77linan.htm

Edited January 13, 2023 by hypilot

[R_nminbiY_n 159]

On 12/01/2023 at 19:33, hypilot said:

So only have one of the PT-32/33. If the websites description is right one of them played in a movie as British CMB boat 102. 

 

 

https://youtu.be/PKoPELgjeqg

Lin An as Tsushima during her service with the IJN 

https://homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~yingshao/pf77linan.htm

 

I guess the Patton-level redressing of that pt boat is good enough. Though with Lin An, I'm specifically looking for it in rocn service with the Japanese guns they put on it later.

 

 

Actually, I think the website is wrong about the movie, because that is certainly not a WW2-era PT-boat.

 

I've found this pic, numbered 513 like the website said it was at first. and it matches a Vosper, which were the primary mtbs built at the Annapolis Yacht Yard. https://page.om.qq.com/page/OXHv6aY7Y3VFfddslGmMPUEw0

 

Edited January 14, 2023 by RenminbiYen

[hypilot 123]

8 hours ago, RenminbiYen said:

 

I guess the Patton-level redressing of that pt boat is good enough. Though with Lin An, I'm specifically looking for it in rocn service with the Japanese guns they put on it later.

 

 

Actually, I think the website is wrong about the movie, because that is certainly not a WW2-era PT-boat.

 

I've found this pic, numbered 513 like the website said it was at first. and it matches a Vosper, which were the primary mtbs built at the Annapolis Yacht Yard. https://page.om.qq.com/page/OXHv6aY7Y3VFfddslGmMPUEw0

 

You are right that’s the 513 / PTC-32. The one in the movie must be something different then lol

 

It also seems the Chinese warship museum has been revived but it looks like its still under construction.

http://capitancreative.com/cwm/index.html

Edited January 14, 2023 by hypilot

[R_nminbiY_n 159]

So, if anyone's still here, what are your thoughts on adding Manchukuo ships? I know some support them in the Chinese tree while others support them in the Japanese tree.

[DMYEugen 688]

2 hours ago, RenminbiYen said:

So, if anyone's still here, what are your thoughts on adding Manchukuo ships? I know some support them in the Chinese tree while others support them in the Japanese tree.

I'm of the opinion that they have a place in the Chinese tree since Manchuko was still China at the end of the day, puppet state or not. A few of them were operated by former Chinese fleets too. Additionally, Japan isn't really in dire need of such ships.

Edited January 22, 2023 by DMYEugen

[不是很能抗压 1,265]

41 minutes ago, DMYEugen said:

I'm of the opinion that they have a place in the Chinese tree since Manchuko was still China at the end of the day, puppet state or not. A few of them were operated by former Chinese fleets too. Additionally, Japan isn't really in dire need of such ships.

Agree.

[R_nminbiY_n 159]

I guess I'll go ahead and add a few. I'll keep them in the premium part though, as the ones I'm considering would be pretty high rank and well, there's not much space there lol.

[不是很能抗压 1,265]

On 07/01/2023 at 07:23, RenminbiYen said:

Ding Bian (I have no idea what this means either, but someone I know said it might've been some sort of term for administration, literally means "fixed border" or something)

"Ding" means "Pacify" and "Bian" means "Border".

[hypilot 123]

 

I think these are the T-25 torpedo boats. The serials match the ones stationed in Taiwan. 
 

edit: also you can see the 2 midget submarines in the background (third in repair) and maybe a T-14 on the far right of the image. The torpedo boats look to be side by side so there very may well be all of them pictured here. Location is 高雄要港 now zuoying naval base.
 

This is from a comprehensive post war report about captured Japanese equipment in Taiwan.

 

7 torpedo boats were captured in total. Only the T-14’s and T-25’s in Kaohsiung show back up in ROCN records. There was one up in Hou Long (後龍) but it probably wasn’t in good enough condition.

 

edit: the one up in Hou Long was a T-14 numbered 850 and was damaged. The T-14’s & T-25’s were equipped with 2 x type 96 25mm guns, 2 x torpedos, 6 x depth charges

 

Looks like 1 x T-25 “AnKang”and 1 x T-14 “AnZe”served in the 3rd gunboat squadron of the ROCN. 

Torpedo boats list:

Spoiler

 

 

Other boats and submarines captured:

Spoiler

Type C midget submarines

“Shinyo” suicide boats

 

Subchasers and mine laying boat

https://aa.archives.gov.tw/ELK/SearchImageDetailed?SystemID=MDAwMDAwOTIwNg==&fullpath=A305440000C/0034/1811.1/4010

https://aa.archives.gov.tw/ELK/SearchImageDetailed?SystemID=MDAwMDQxMTU3Nw==&fullpath=B5018230601/0035/511.1/4010/1/002

 

(if anyone can find more interesting info from these reports please share!)

Edited June 8, 2023 by hypilot

[R_nminbiY_n 159]

On 2/8/2023 at 12:19 AM, hypilot said:

 

I think these are the T-25 torpedo boats. The serials match the ones stationed in Taiwan. 
 

This is from a comprehensive post war report about captured Japanese equipment in Taiwan.

 

7 torpedo boats were captured in total. Only the T-14’s and T-25’s in Kaohsiung show back up in ROCN records. There was one up in Hou Long (後龍) but it probably wasn’t in good enough condition.

Nice find, I was thinking it would be a good choice for the reserve premium to be inline with other nations' prem MTBs.

 

On 1/12/2023 at 6:25 PM, hypilot said:

    Edit: anyone know what happened to the PF-1 suggestion? I can do a new one but the one posted was really good

If you're still wondering, it got archived last year because it lacked a poll

 

 

Also, if you have some info on the "PB-42~PB-74" Patrol Boats, could you post that? I just realized that that's probably what "PB60" is. https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014152/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4409.html

 

[hypilot 123]

11 hours ago, RenminbiYen said:

Also, if you have some info on the "PB-42~PB-74" Patrol Boats, could you post that? I just realized that that's probably what "PB60" is. https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014152/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4409.html

 

PB-60 belongs to the same class. 
 

Here’s PB-64 

 

[WebKiller 35]

Any more information about this?

 

http://www.js7tv.cn/pic/201504_6543.html

黑龙江边防武装巡逻艇

Edited March 3, 2023 by WebKiller

[hypilot 123]

On 12/01/2023 at 19:11, RenminbiYen said:

But for new ships, I need some for the PT boats, https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014122/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4406.html and https://web.archive.org/web/20080917014117/http://60.250.180.26/taiwan/4405.html,

 

PTC-34 (515) Restoration and PTC-35 (516) Jianguo

[JamesPond1200@psn 299]

This looks really good!

Figured I'd share my suggestion post for the Type 062 gunboat here:

 

[Fireraid233 4,274]

+1

[metalboxoperator 0]

+1 shouldn't be left out even though they don't have large ships

[hypilot 123]

HDML 1033 stats (they’re the same for all HDML’s)

 

Spoiler

 

Specs for other boats. (Lots of Japanese types)

https://aa.archives.gov.tw/ELK/SearchImageDetailed?SystemID=MDAwMDE2MTk4Ng==&fullpath=B5018230601/0033/625.3/2841

 

Edited June 8, 2023 by hypilot