Allenz91 17 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 why is it that the pgz09 has less ammo then the gepard and the type 87? also it suffers from only -2° of depression. buff it to at least -5 or -7 crazed_feel (Posted March 7, 2023) Moved to : Game Discussion > Machinery of War Discussion > Ground Forces Discussion > China > General & Upcoming 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swordoros 18 Report post Posted March 2, 2023 The -2° of depression of pzg09 is because the former Chinese documenter uploaded the ‘real’ information for Gaijin. Even if he believes it may constitute a crime of disclosure. That's why we dismissed him last year. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
战狼队长 BaLannikov 大校 7 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 Well, you should thank Gaijin gave CN PGZ09 rather than blame Gaijin At the beginning, CN even may not receive the PGZ09 due to that Chinese documenter for the reason of Confidential information. Then Gaijin copy the Gepard data and make the PGZ09 with 10° by itself. When that Chinese documenter see what Gaijin did, he immediately took out the confidential information and said that 2° was practical. And here it is, PGZ09 has 2° A dramatic story, isn't it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrotylYu 116 Report post Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Allenz91 said: why is it that the pgz09 has less ammo then the gepard and the type 87? also it suffers from only -2° of depression. buff it to at least -5 or -7 Both of the 440+40 ammo and -2 depression info comes from the book 《中国自动武器》(<China Automatic Weapons>) AFAIK. Edited March 3, 2023 by TrotylYu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallu609 8 Report post Posted March 8, 2023 While bad depression barely matters, it really is a mystery why the PGZ is not 8.0 since it has less ammo than it's counterparts and is actually vulnerable to machine guns with it's nonexistent armor, while most SPAA would at least take a low caliber cannon to destroy at range Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenz91 17 Report post Posted March 10, 2023 that or give it the manpads with the gepard treatment where there is a 9.7 version of it or similar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...