kcns 37 Report post Posted March 11, 2023 Anyone got the apfsds yet can tell me if it is any good? looks mediocre with 200mm pen, dont see why this tank is at 7.3 when it is not really better than the type 63 and definitely worse than the bmp1 at the same br Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallu609 8 Report post Posted March 11, 2023 I guess the laser rangefinder is...kind of comparable to having ATGMs, and the HMG isn't completely useless so it goes to the same rank as BMP. Basically having a secondary weapon makes the BMP much better at short range while the rangefinder makes the type 63 slightly better at long range, type 63 never was good for anything but scouting and slinging HEATFS to the other side of the map anyways. Generally I just take HEAT instead of the chinese aluminum darts, the penetration is better, it does fairly consistent damage and deletes light vehicles while APFSDS might fail to kill crewmembers on a direct hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestFighters 15 Report post Posted March 11, 2023 Yeah, from what I can tell the only thing to do with this tank is to load heat and fire HEAT from across the map. That's not a weak niche, just a lame one. If the APFSDS was not made of absolute garbage, this tank might have more to do. Also, the stock grind before you have the LRF is terrible, as you are literally just the 6.3 version with a .50cal and nothing else. You don't even get to try out the dollar-store APFSDS till you get the LRF, at which point there is no reason to. However, a LRF is a very powerful tool, so I don't think this thing is ever going to get any BR decreases (except maybe to 7.0, which means nothing as there is no other 7.0 tanks in the tech tree). It cannot go to 6.7 as it would just be outclassing the type 62 and would still have no lineup worth much, and 6.3 is obviously where the base version is. Those two tanks are maybe a tad overtiered, (I think the base Type 63 should be 6.0 and the Type 62 should be 6.3) but unless they move down a step, there is nowhere for this to go, and that's if gaijin is ok with a LRF HEAT-slinger at 7.0 or 6.7 (which would be insane). I have a feeling that this tank isn't going to be used a whole lot unless you are making a weird 7.3 lineup with the M48. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonmitri 94 Report post Posted March 12, 2023 The tank is playable, its nothing too amazing and requires a good crew but the APFSDS is much better than expected. The APFSDS round it gets has post pen damage that is much closer to DM23 rather than the Type 69 dart. it's still however a situational vehicle that doesn't handle close quarters all that well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcns 37 Report post Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) Been spading this tank with the boosters from lootboxes, it absolutely sucks lol, definitely do not recommend anyone else suffer through this until its br is lowered. The apfsds postpen is really quite bad, it is not any better than the type69 one which is already probably the worst apfsds in the game. Slow as hell, no armor and no stab Speaking for ab only, compared with similar 7.3 vehicles: vs leo1 -> far worse rounds, worse armor, mobility, gun depression vs object906 -> no stabilizer/autoloader. worse aphe,mobility, cant flank and hit&run like the 906 vs bmp1 -> you lose access to the 800mm atgm, gain a 200mm apfsds vs any of the centurions -> worse shell, worse depression, no stabilizer, far worse armor this thing should at most be 6.7. i genuinely think this is the worst 7.3 in the game right now Edited April 4, 2023 by kcns 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallu609 8 Report post Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, kcns said: Been spading this tank with the boosters from lootboxes, it absolutely sucks lol, definitely do not recommend anyone else suffer through this until its br is lowered. The apfsds postpen is really quite bad, it is not any better than the type69 one which is already probably the worst apfsds in the game. Slow as hell, no armor and no stab Speaking for ab only, compared with similar 7.3 vehicles: vs leo1 -> far worse rounds, worse armor, mobility, gun depression vs object906 -> no stabilizer/autoloader. worse aphe,mobility, cant flank and hit&run like the 906 vs bmp1 -> you lose access to the 800mm atgm, gain a 200mm apfsds vs any of the centurions -> worse shell, worse depression, no stabilizer, far worse armor this thing should at most be 6.7. i genuinely think this is the worst 7.3 in the game right now Well not surprising that it would do terrible in AB, in RB the experience isn't exactly great and you'll simply lose most fights if you can't get the first shot and kill the enemy gunner...if the enemy vehicle has a separate machine gunner you are still in danger. ZTS has terrible protection around the optics so you can actually be 50cal'd right in the face and generally you can not really do anything about it. BMP (or ZBD) naturally does not have this issue, the frontal armor easily deflects any machine guns. ZBD86 is just better, the missile launcher is more useful than LRF in most situations and APFSDS is simply not needed. ZTS63 could be 7.0, it definitely is much better than type 63 and at least in my opinion noticeably better than the type 62. Unsurprisingly it also beats M41D, that abomination really might be the worst light tank in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcns 37 Report post Posted April 6, 2023 On 03/04/2023 at 23:34, Kallu609 said: Well not surprising that it would do terrible in AB this is why vehicles in different modes often have different brs. stuff like LRF which makes this a bit more useful in RB is completely useless in AB. maybe it could work at 7.0 in RB but in AB it is just a Type63-I with a crappy apfsds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...