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The H1 in an interesting machine and the RNG decides things not the spec sheets. I'm currently loving my Tiger H1, named it Carnage, some games it's an unstoppable murder machine and bounces 152 shells head one, the next a T-34-57 one shots it from halfway across the map, go figure.

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15 hours ago, SpankdaMonkey said:

The H1 in an interesting machine and the RNG decides things not the spec sheets. I'm currently loving my Tiger H1, named it Carnage, some games it's an unstoppable murder machine and bounces 152 shells head one, the next a T-34-57 one shots it from halfway across the map, go figure.

You can replace the vehicle names by anything at similar BRs and the phrase would still be probably true...RNG and luck (or lack of it) happen every match...and they work both ways :)

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On 07/05/2023 at 02:40, Valcour said:

Can anyone think of why a Tiger H1 can take a 152mm APHE shell to the LFP and incur no damage?

 

You need to hit the Turret front, so the HE's burst can go through the hull's roof. If you hit just the front plate, there is a great possibility that the blast finds no plate thin enough to go into the tank. Same with many turretless tanks that just have a single thick front plate. The blastwave's vectors spread like a star after impact. It can't go around a corner to hit an vulnerable spot, so you have to aim with HE too and not just lob it onto the enemy. But the rules for what is a weakspot are totally different for HE than it is for kinetic projectiles like AP.

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11 hours ago, KillstealBot1000 said:

You need to hit the Turret front, so the HE's burst can go through the hull's roof. ....

 

APHE not HE - I think it should have enough penetration to go through a LFP at reasonable angles.

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8 hours ago, Josephs_Piano said:

 

APHE not HE - I think it should have enough penetration to go through a LFP at reasonable angles.

Overread the APHE. But no. Those barely scratch 80mm penetration and as such aren't able to penetrate a Tiger. The lower front plate is 100mm. If they can't penetrate the tank, they work exactly like HE.

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3 hours ago, KillstealBot1000 said:

Overread the APHE. But no. Those barely scratch 80mm

Depending if you fire one from KV-2 or SU-152/ISU-152

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On 10/05/2023 at 18:25, KillstealBot1000 said:

Overread the APHE. But no. Those barely scratch 80mm penetration and as such aren't able to penetrate a Tiger. The lower front plate is 100mm. If they can't penetrate the tank, they work exactly like HE.

 

APHE would be  SU and ISU-152 - 170mm at 10m 0 degrees, and still 136 at 2000m 0 degrees, also 136mm at 500m at 30 degrees.... unless he's using it as lazy shorthand for hte anti-concrete shell of the KV-2, which is more properly SAPCBC

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Easy explanations RNG in Arcade Modules have more HP in Realistic less and that's make Arcade RNG fest this same you can ask why me first shell shooting from Tiger E always bounce on T-34-85 ppl will sey scientific stuff like angle and other BS game is based in RNG

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6 hours ago, Xx8xX said:

Easy explanations RNG in Arcade Modules have more HP in Realistic less and that's make Arcade RNG fest this same you can ask why me first shell shooting from Tiger E always bounce on T-34-85 ppl will sey scientific stuff like angle and other BS game is based in RNG

 

That's easy, one word.

 

Stalinium...  

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14 hours ago, Xx8xX said:

Easy explanations RNG in Arcade Modules have more HP in Realistic less and that's make Arcade RNG fest this same you can ask why me first shell shooting from Tiger E always bounce on T-34-85 ppl will sey scientific stuff like angle and other BS game is based in RNG

 

My first shell doesn't always bounce - pretty sure that's a feature they introduced just for you.....:happysnail:

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18 hours ago, SpankdaMonkey said:

 

That's easy, one word.

 

Stalinium...  

Yeah in Arcade idiotic Rus tanks have the best

1.Armor - Seems to me Vulometric help Rus and Chinese insane troll armor

2.Ammo - Depleted Uranium BR-365A proved can pene Jumbo and Tiger II from the tracks

3.Visibility the best values from all nations whatever tank you play Light medium heavy TD

4.mobility

5.BRs

11 hours ago, Josephs_Piano said:

 

My first shell doesn't always bounce - pretty sure that's a feature they introduced just for you.....:happysnail:

You sure about that :D

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On 06/05/2023 at 19:40, Valcour said:

Can anyone think of why a Tiger H1 can take a 152mm APHE shell to the LFP and incur no damage?

 

Only thing I can advise is shoot the UFP and sides. Commanders coupala sometimes works to.

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