I'm very new...

[Cyberfed 1]

... and it would really help if someone can give me a pointer on what planes (American tech tree) to grind for in tier 2 or 3. Very simple request but I'd find it very helpful if I get a response

Edited May 7, 2023 by Fed543
Forgot to specify ;)

[Noir89 2,578]

Hm i would throw those in:

 

P-40 (spade both for training)

F6F-5 (the lower BR one - also good vor naval -> carry good torpedo)

P-63A-10

P-38L-5-Lo

 

Those are also very nice to have if you want to try Ground Realistic at some point (2 birds 1 stone).

Edited May 7, 2023 by Noir89

[Cyberfed 1]

58 minutes ago, Noir89 said:

Those are also very nice to have if you want to try Ground Realistic at some point (2 birds 1 stone).

What exactly do you mean by this?

[Noir89 2,578]

1 hour ago, Fed543 said:

What exactly do you mean by this?

They have payloadoptions (bombs/rockets/torpedos) which can also kill groundtargets very well / or ships if you want to try out a mixed mode later. For aircombat you wont take those out as you want your aircraft as light as possible (also reduce fuel btw. that also affect the flightperformance).

Edited May 7, 2023 by Noir89

[Real K Soze@live 407]

For Air RB:

Rank II

a) P-39N - very good allround plane, way to low BR, u can do nothing wrong

b) P-38G - benefits from airspawn, very good as centralized weapons, fast - but you need to stay high and fast and focus on energy fighting

Rank III:

c) P-51C - imho best P51 (besides P-51 H), good speed, climb and turn, not limited to pure BnZ, also undertiered 

d) F4U-4 - at BR 4.7 same performance as 5.7 F4U-4b just with 6 0,50 cals, u need to keep speed high

 

Just from the fun perspective the 3.0 Corsair might be also an option for rank 2 if you watch some vids how to use it. The plane needs speed and alt advantage to work and benefited way too long from BR 2.7, current BR 3.0 is imho still too low.

 

In general the US air tree has a hell of very good planes but most of their players can't use their full potential due to lack of experience. 

YT is full with vids of how to use certain planes (DEFYN recommended) , so as a beginner P-39 would be my first choice....

 

[MDzmitryj 29]

For Rank II, surprisingly enough, every fighter branch has a viable aircraft to fly:

• P-39N-0 (fast enough, can turn with using flaps, 37mm needs getting used to, but rips when hits)
• P-40s and early P-51 with 4 Hispanos (although its performance is rather meh, and cannon damage was kneecapped in 2.25)
• F4U-1 (fast af boi)

For Rank III there's less good options, but there still are gems:

• P-51C-10 (has the speed and, unlike D models, turn and climb)
• P-47D-28 (one of the best P-47 models regarding their BR, is really quick and can finally climb decently, the only better option would be P-47M at 5.7)
• F4U-4 (Corsair finally becoming a viable fighter again, better performance than F4U-1 at a viable enough BR of 4.7)

P-63s are pretty mediocre, they don't climb much better compared to P-39s at around 3.0, feel rather sluggish in turns and haven't improved enough in speed or armament to compensate for the performance.

[Cyberfed 1]

WOW thanks so much for all of these responses, I'll definitely keep them all in mind when choosing what to get next.

[Real K Soze@live 407]

2 hours ago, MDzmitryj said:

P-47D-28 (one of the best P-47 models regarding their BR, is really quick and can finally climb decently, the only better option would be P-47M at 5.7)

 

No offense man, I share most of your thoughts but i would rather not recommend any P-47 for a beginner.

 

Without MEC knowledge and a large portion of patience a new player won't be able to use the full potential of those planes. I mean there is a reason why we have P-47s at BR 3.7... Correct flown the needed playstyle to be successful in a P-47 is boring like hell. I see the Chinese and the Italian P-47 D-30 at BR 5.0 as best offer regarding BRs (ok other TTs) and the flight model of the D-30 is far better than the D-28 (you might agree if you fly them with joystick, SFC and instructor off).

 

Most of the US pilots i kill in 1vs1s (4.7 to 6.0) try to make me overshoot but forgot the airbrake of the IT P-47 D-30, only a few real smart F4U-4 or 4b pilots are able to counter this by releasing the landing gear. The P-51 D-30 also at BR 5.0 outperforms the P-47 D-28/30 in every major category (climb, speed, turn) and is imho the better plane, but also not beginner friendly.

 

Plz see this just as another pov regarding the same topic without hostile intentions. Have a good one!

 

 

[MDzmitryj 29]

20 hours ago, Uncle J Wick@live said:

 

No offense man, I share most of your thoughts but i would rather not recommend any P-47 for a beginner.

 

Without MEC knowledge and a large portion of patience a new player won't be able to use the full potential of those planes. I mean there is a reason why we have P-47s at BR 3.7... Correct flown the needed playstyle to be successful in a P-47 is boring like hell. I see the Chinese and the Italian P-47 D-30 at BR 5.0 as best offer regarding BRs (ok other TTs) and the flight model of the D-30 is far better than the D-28 (you might agree if you fly them with joystick, SFC and instructor off).

 

Most of the US pilots i kill in 1vs1s (4.7 to 6.0) try to make me overshoot but forgot the airbrake of the IT P-47 D-30, only a few real smart F4U-4 or 4b pilots are able to counter this by releasing the landing gear. The P-51 D-30 also at BR 5.0 outperforms the P-47 D-28/30 in every major category (climb, speed, turn) and is imho the better plane, but also not beginner friendly.

 

Plz see this just as another pov regarding the same topic without hostile intentions. Have a good one!

 

 

A fair opinion, thanks a lot for mentioning it!

Speed fighters in general prove surprisingly hard to learn simply because of how monotonous the gameplay is.
I myself prefer energy or turnfighting over the pure speed gameplay.

[KillstealBot1000 320]

On 07/05/2023 at 22:01, Fed543 said:

What exactly do you mean by this?

Just to clear thinks up. In realistic ground mode and both naval modes, you can bring planes (and helicopters) too. But you can't use them as first spawn, bacause they have quite a lot of spawn points you need to earn it that particular battle first.

Edited May 9, 2023 by KillstealBot1000

[Cyberfed 1]

On 07/05/2023 at 22:09, Uncle J Wick@live said:

a) P-39N - very good allround plane, way to low BR, u can do nothing wrong

b) P-38G - benefits from airspawn, very good as centralized weapons, fast - but you need to stay high and fast and focus on energy fighting

I've finally gotten to the point of actually needing all this info, so my next question is which one should I get first out of these two? Thanks

[Draglagandping 0]

Just my opinion:  The P39 gives you more options in game modes and fly style, the P38 is good but  it demands more patience and discipline.

 

[Real K Soze@live 407]

58 minutes ago, Cyberfed said:

I've finally gotten to the point of actually needing all this info, so my next question is which one should I get first out of these two? Thanks

 

The guy above me is right, with 120 matches the P-39 should be better for you. 

 

Before you fly it - go to yt and watch DEFYNs vid about the P-39 - it will help you to avoid basic mistakes and will make your life much easier - and usually you just can run away if you messed something up. Watch out for 2.7 Ki44, their 0.50 cals with air target belt can snipe you up to 1.2 - 1.4 km.

 

 

[Cyberfed 1]

Thanks so much, I literally just got the P-400 so now I know what to get next. Thanks!

[Cyberfed 1]

On 13/05/2023 at 18:21, Uncle J Wick@live said:

 

The guy above me is right, with 120 matches the P-39 should be better for you. 

 

Before you fly it - go to yt and watch DEFYNs vid about the P-39 - it will help you to avoid basic mistakes and will make your life much easier - and usually you just can run away if you messed something up. Watch out for 2.7 Ki44, their 0.50 cals with air target belt can snipe you up to 1.2 - 1.4 km.

 

 

Not sure, but I think that DEFYNs vid is about the premium Soviet P-39, which I'm not fully sure also applies on the American tree. If I am seeing the wrong thing, can you send a link,

Thanks

[Real K Soze@live 407]

34 minutes ago, Cyberfed said:

Not sure, but I think that DEFYNs vid is about the premium Soviet P-39, which I'm not fully sure also applies on the American tree. If I am seeing the wrong thing, can you send a link,

Thanks

 

It is basically the same plane, less (useless) wing guns and therefore lighter and even more agile. The fight characteristics are similar.

 

Edited May 18, 2023 by Uncle J Wick@live

[Cyberfed 1]

Alright I'll watch it in that case.