Why negative* reviews?

[Zucc_Boi 657]

12 hours ago, Threashold said:

Review bombing on steam is the most dumbest and childish thing to do, It's like it won't make the devs make actual changes come to the game. 

It actually is effective. New players decide whether to try it out based on reviews, and Steam gives it the largest exposure. Having "Mostly Negative" in the recent reviews is definitely gonna push players away.

14 hours ago, zuh said:

2) The forum is very strictly modernized,

Please edit to "moderated". And I agree fully with your post.

[ARK_BOI 810]

2 minutes ago, Zucc_Boi said:

Having "Mostly Negative"

it "Overwhelmingly Negative"  right now

[TOMSONE 1,213]

37 minutes ago, Cpt_Bel_V said:

 

The last stream review, and comment spam from Playerbase have been the last effort of the playerbase to make Gaijin openned their eyes.

And don't forget any modes like combined sim who nothing moved since 2018! And economy is slayed since many years!

[Cpt_Bel_V 4,790]

1 minute ago, TOMSONE said:

And don't forget any modes like combined sim who nothing moved since 2018! And economy is slayed since many years!

i do not, but it's an all thing complaint.

[Thodin 6,784]

Better consider not to buff Russia that much at top tier ARB GRB and Naval. I mean...read the reviers...hundrets of them...the whole western gaming community hates you for this unbalanced bs. Some even calling the propaganda word.

 

Next patch they'll get a new missile destroyer (first of its kind), super mega op CAS jets...just shortly after they got the Pantsir and the current Su-25 top dogs. Igla manpads for their frigates, cold war BTR wheeled tank at 5.7 WW2 BR.... hello everything alright with you???

 

Postphone the upcoming pro russian content patch. They don't need new Su-25, while they still have two indestructable ones from an earlier update. They don't need missile destroyers while their totally OP SKR-7, Kronstadts etc totally rule naval...the don't need shittons of new tanks and vehicles every single patch, elevating rus far above everyone lese.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Thodin

[TheWarmFridge 36]

10 minutes ago, Thodin said:

Better consider not to buff Russia that much at top tier ARB GRB and Naval. I mean...read the reviers...hundrets of them...the whole western gaming community hates you for this unbalanced bs. Some even calling the propaganda word.

 

Next patch they'll get a new missile destroyer (first of its kind), super mega op CAS jets...just shortly after they got the Pantsir and the current Su-25 top dogs. Igla manpads for their frigates, cold war BTR wheeled tank at 5.7 WW2 BR.... hello everything alright with you???

 

Postphone the upcoming pro russian content patch. They don't need new Su-25, while they still have two indestructable ones from an earlier update. They don't need missile destroyers while their totally OP SKR-7, Kronstadts etc totally rule naval...the don't need shittons of new tanks and vehicles every single patch, elevating rus far above everyone lese.

it would be a dream come true if the next few patches focused entirely on the minor nations and bringing them up to speed, britains domestic light tank tree, french aa vehicles and a general TLC for some of their tanks and planes, israeli ground and air forces, etc etc.

but alas we got another su25 premium and a russian missile boat in the destroyer tree, which will absolutely ruin naval 

[Thodin 6,784]

5 minutes ago, TheWarmFridge said:

it would be a dream come true if the next few patches focused entirely on the minor nations and bringing them up to speed, britains domestic light tank tree, french aa vehicles and a general TLC for some of their tanks and planes, israeli ground and air forces, etc etc.

but alas we got another su25 premium and a russian missile boat in the destroyer tree, which will absolutely ruin naval 

 

The next patch was supposed to be about the French Navy.... Which had a stunning 2 second  occurrence in the promo teaser, while suddenly everything is about the two new russian CAS jets, which will be so far above everything elise that its just not logical anymore. Gajin pulled them out of nowhere....cause existing top tier russia isn't op enough.

[ARK_BOI 810]

Just now, Thodin said:

 

The next patch was supposed to be about the French Navy.... Which had a stunning 2 second  occurrence in the promo teaser, while suddenly everything is about the two new russian CAS jets, which will be so far above everything elise that its just not logical anymore. Gajin pulled them out of nowhere....cause existing top tier russia isn't op enough.

Let just hope this will be the last time they made this kind of mistake and heading toward the right direction because if not thing will getting worse for them

[Thodin 6,784]

11 minutes ago, ARK_BOI said:

Let just hope this will be the last time they made this kind of mistake and heading toward the right direction because if not thing will getting worse for them

 

 

It might be the last chance for Gajin to get back on track and to restrain themselves with changing player's items/units and game rules for the worse all the time. This also applies for the glaring balancing issue we currently have. If they can't stop this trend they might end up like Kaspersky Internet security and get thrown out of most western stores. When I obtain a player Item like a Tornado event jet, they can't just change it into junk 1 update later. Or just lowering SL / RP modificators of a premium unit I bought. You buy it to get income and Gajin nerfs exactly this after couple of weeks... This can't be.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Thodin

[x_Shini_ 434]

8 minutes ago, ARK_BOI said:

Let just hope this will be the last time they made this kind of mistake and heading toward the right direction because if not thing will getting worse for them

gonna be intresting if they will give another statement tomorrow to address the current development or will wait until the 26th when their survey ended. As it looks now, they cant wait until mid-late summer for the next economy update (which possibly get declined from the playerbase again), they need to make some kind of emergency fixes

[ARK_BOI 810]

14 minutes ago, Thodin said:

 

 

It might be the last chance for Gajin to get back on track and to restrain themselves with changing player's items/units and game rules for the worse all the time. This also applies for the glaring balancing issue we currently have. If they can't stop this trend they might end up like Kaspersky Internet security and get thrown out of most western stores. When I obtain a player Item like a Tornado event jet, they can't just change it into junk 1 update later. Or just lowering SL / RP modificators of a premium unit I bought. You buy it to get income and Gajin nerfs exactly this after couple of weeks... This can't be.

They nerf Vikhr in the next upcoming update which is thing they should done it long ago but well it good start now they need fix economic that Player can earn even without premium but with it helping players getting rich faster not barely cover the repair cost even with premium accounts and then balance threat every nation equally

Edited May 21, 2023 by ARK_BOI

[BagelIsMyWaifu 838]

12 minutes ago, x_Shini_ said:

As it looks now, they cant wait until mid-late summer for the next economy update (which possibly get declined from the playerbase again), they need to make some kind of emergency fixes

If the current rates continue, the all time rating on steam will drop to "Mixed" by Tuesday. Gajin needs something more than empty promises, and they need it quickly

[Thodin 6,784]

8 minutes ago, BagelIsMyWaifu said:

If the current rates continue, the all time rating on steam will drop to "Mixed" by Tuesday. Gajin needs something more than empty promises, and they need it quickly

 

A couple of years ago the game wasn't fluctuating that much. I still remember my first premium plane and Talisman I bought: A P-47 Thunderbolt and my first Talisman I put on a Do-217 bomber. The income rates (this also applies for bases and NPCs) were stable and changes in BR + SL/RP payout were a very rare event. So you could actually earn something to progress throughout the tech trees. Building lineups meant something completly different than today.

 

But now everything seems to get instantly nerfed ("changed"), as soon as an algorithm detects above average income rates. So bases and NPCs were nerfed....matchpoints were nerfed....vehicle modifiers for SL/RP income were nerfed, battleratings where nerfed....this happens just too often...almost on a monthly to quartal base.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Thodin

[GloBlue 94]

indeed, wait another 3 months with this economy and we can say goodbye to WT, we need to see changes in the economy quickly, you can do it gaijin, you are not asked to do it for the 2000 vehicles , but decreasing repair costs and increasing rewards for everyone would be quite easy to implement, thanks

[ARK_BOI 810]

Also open mind to forums suggestions too not just ban or delete the thing you don’t like

now it a chance don’t waste it

also often playing your game and see how it goes

Edited May 21, 2023 by ARK_BOI

[Thodin 6,784]

Just a hint: Steam reviews can be modified and changed to "thumbs up", if the player thinks that it got better. 

[RuckusAndFun 414]

1 minute ago, Thodin said:

Just a hint: Steam reviews can be modified and changed to "thumbs up", if the player thinks that it got better. 

But how many people will actually DO that is the question.

[x_Shini_ 434]

5 minutes ago, RuckusAndFun said:

But how many people will actually DO that is the question.

Steam hides review bombs after some time and takes them out of the calculation

[ARK_BOI 810]

5 minutes ago, RuckusAndFun said:

But how many people will actually DO that is the question.

It not the players problem also it part of the consequences for their mistake now it up to gaijin if get better thing will get better but you can’t rush it you need time

[RuckusAndFun 414]

4 minutes ago, x_Shini_ said:

Steam hides review bombs after some time and takes them out of the calculation

I'll take your word for that, but that sounds like it defeats the whole point of the review system...

[TheWarmFridge 36]

1 minute ago, RuckusAndFun said:

I'll take your word for that, but that sounds like it defeats the whole point of the review system...

Steam DOES have a feature like that yeah, however it would need to be a review bomb of larger numbers in a much shorter amount of time and even then only if they believe its unjustified, i don't know how the nitty-gritty details work, but I was told it worked like this a while ago. 

I've never heard of the "hiding reviews" before though, might be new? 

[Fireraid233 4,274]

Hurts to see it ngl. Coming from someone who has played since late 2013 and even played birds of steel before it hurts to see. But it's what they get for being so out of touch with the community. They weren't perfect but they were better in the past it's sad to see what uncontrolled popularity and greed does to a company I actually wish we were back to the 2014-2018 popularity.

 

[Valkyria_SXVIII 34]

At this rate , Newcomers will have a cold feet and feeling to play Warthunder not just seeing the Overwhelmingly Negatives reviews, The veterans and Enthusiast alike may giving advice to newcomers not to play this game.

 

Because it all started with falling Economy for the past few years now.

 

Feels like Premium time is more like Standard time whilst Non-premium gets the Minus 20 Percent Profiteering .

[MDzmitryj 29]

What Gaijin doesn't account is that the players don't "review bomb" to whine.

They review the actual, outstanding problems at the core of the game structure, for the first time in a while.

And if these problems get fixed, all reviews can easily be re-written to be positive. But it takes real change to persuade the playerbase to do so.

[dоt 3,457]

Its not just economy where people are angry, its a whole combination of things and eventually people get fed up…

 

Economy is one thing, but recently in air we get many changes nobody wanted and things people asked for that never came, not even in 10 years.

 

• RealShatter update effectively ruining HEF, please remove it, NOBODY LIKES IT, its absolutely game breaking and terrible
• Drag changes to air ammunition, REVERT IT
• Mid field AA killing people, nobody wants it
• AF AA, why was this ever even a thing
• Why do we still get EC maps in ARB outside of anything but 11.0+ games where it actually makes sense, can we please just ban more maps
• Lots of maps still have an auto win side, why would AI kill tickets? Players should kill tickets. Stop having AI influencing match outcome withan auto win condition
• Moscow ARB map has been rubberbanding for months now, various bug reports, fix it maybe? Please? Should we beg?
• Why do you feel you need to place all aspect/30G missiles at ridiculous low BRs where many planes don't even have countermeasures? People tell you not to place Yak38 at 9.3 and other such dumb changes and you just go “Statistics” NOBODY CARES ABOUT THOSE DUDE. Actual people, en masse, tell you its a bad idea yet you wont listen
• So many bots in ARB, why aren’t you taking any action? What is so difficult
• When are you finally going to separate BR for ARB and GRB so we can get some sensible game balancing
• New maps maybe, at some point in life, WITHOUT REMOVING EXISTING MAPS FROM ROTATION as you do now. Its just Spain, Spain, City, City, City, City, Spain, Spain, Vietnam, City, City, god damn it, please NO MORE
• Crew lock, lmao, why is that a thing? Remove it entirely
• Spotting system for props is fine, but for fast jets leaves a lot to be desired. Detection ranges are too low and sometimes don't work properly at all
• Why, when I land my critically damaged plane am I being auto rejected? My pilot is fine, my plane could make it back to base, yet it doesn’t matter. You used to be able to repair, but that was changed

And this is just some, related to Air RB, not even going to touch on the crap you pull off in GRB which is far worse.

 

People are truly at their ends, nobody here wants to review bomb, complain on reddit, and all those things. NOBODY wants to spend time on this. But if this is the only way you actually start to pay attention then deal with it.

 

Not to mention, that line about leaving feedback on this forum? So many times any type of feedback is wiped into Threads Archive to solve it. Its so frustrating if the official forum of a game doesn't allow for any open discussion around a sensitive topic. Its either dropped to archive or redirected to some thread from 2013 with 500 pages of the same complaints to get it out of sight instead of having a discussion. Why do you think a lot of people move to other platforms to discuss your game, and if you dont participate and engage there, then you are just going to end up out of touch with your playerbase - as you are right now.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Reddоt