Why negative* reviews?

[Zucc_Boi 657]

3 hours ago, Thodin said:

Next patch they'll get a new missile destroyer (first of its kind), super mega op CAS jets...just shortly after they got the Pantsir and the current Su-25 top dogs. Igla manpads for their frigates, cold war BTR wheeled tank at 5.7 WW2 BR.... hello everything alright with you???

Who here remembers the BMP-2M with its Kornet ATGMs was once an 8.7 vehicle?

[MDzmitryj 29]

3 minutes ago, Reddоt said:

AF AA, why was this ever even a thing

Agreed with most your points, but AF AA is necessary to defend the people who actually cannot physically fight back (belly landed after crits or landed without any fuel or ammo).
It NEEDS reworking like "firing less if there's an ally circling around in a certain range of ~4km, as if out of fear of friendly fire".

 

And regarding RealSh*tter I partially agree: the system might have more potential to recreate realistic HE damage, but they're taking way too long working on it.
The fragmentation should be reverted to the old value instead of 1-7 fragments per round, but with the new "non-spherical" shatter.

[Raldi92 2,923]

8 minutes ago, Zucc_Boi said:

Who here remembers the BMP-2M with its Kornet ATGMs was once an 8.7 vehicle?

 

No need to live in the past , in the present you  have A-10A Late with x4 AIM-9L and x6 AGM-65D  IR fire and forget AGMs  being only 0.3BR higher than an Su-25 with x2 R-60M and no guided AtG weapons whatsoever ...

[Tubby_Vermin 2,161]

After playing the game for over ten years and spending over 40k yes, 40k to support the development of the game.

 

I believe Gaijin can do more for the player base as a whole, communication has always been a stale, and uncomfortable aspect of this game.

 

Most people (consumers as well as prob some developers) see a lot of potential in this game, I believe it’s shareholders and bigwigs wanting higher profit margins and money for there back pocket, and we as the customers have had enough of false promises and smoking mirrors.

 

I agree the review bombing is childish, however its Making gaijin start to realise there wrong doings and hopefully be upfront and honest and try and fix the game going forward, I personally see this as a positive, even tho we are in dark times for gaijin, this review bombing can also turn into a positive review if gaijin pull there finger out.

Gaijin stop shooting yourselves in the foot, listen to your customers feedback

 

upgrade the game, sort out the economy, make the game fun again. 
 

Believe you can go back to your roots and come out of this smelling like roses

Edited May 21, 2023 by Tubby_Vermin

[Threashold 224]

15 hours ago, Cephalor said:

its clearly working snce they akcnowledged it lmao. oh and it just fueled people to pump more negative comments into it

 

Review bombing steam Is just dumb that all I can say, We are literally telling New players ''Hey Don't Play this game ever''.  New players are joining the game every hour is an important factor than just dumb changes which can be changed or even cancelled. 

[Zucc_Boi 657]

2 hours ago, Raldi92 said:

 

No need to live in the past , in the present you  have A-10A Late with x4 AIM-9L and x6 AGM-65D  IR fire and forget AGMs  being only 0.3BR higher than an Su-25 with x2 R-60M and no guided AtG weapons whatsoever ...

Mavericks are useful, but I wouldn't say they're better than Su-25's loadout. The Su-25 has CCIP heavy rockets which give it very quick strafe and run time.

[BagelIsMyWaifu 838]

1 hour ago, Threashold said:

We are literally telling New players ''Hey Don't Play this game ever''.

Yeah? Cant really say I would recommend this game to anyone in its current state

[Donkoski@live 8]

I personally, do not think review bombing is the right idea, but if that’s the only thing to make Gaijin aware, then we might have to.

[Firestarter__ 106]

1 hour ago, Threashold said:

Review bombing steam Is just dumb that all I can say, We are literally telling New players ''Hey Don't Play this game ever''.  New players are joining the game every hour is an important factor than just dumb changes which can be changed or even cancelled. 

then gaijin should maybe have considered this when they implemented such changes

apply murphy's law. 

Edited May 21, 2023 by Firestarter__

[Untergangsmelder 549]

20 hours ago, Threashold said:

Review bombing on steam is the most dumbest and childish thing to do, It's like it won't make the devs make actual changes come to the game. 

 

10 years of lying, squeezing money out of players, with around 25.000.000 revenue per year. violate laws of the EU and EU countries is .....was ???  

The game was advertised as Free to Play, players invest thousands of dollars/euros and what is it now ? Pay to Play .... 

This is not how any serious company operates in western europe ! 

Edited May 21, 2023 by Untergangsmelder

[WinstonWolfe 326]

My biggest problem is the economy. Nerfing premiums which cost its money and today you can't use them, and the reality that forces me (owning premium account for few years in row) to farm SL on low battle ratings.

 

BTW grind is ridiculous even with premium acc, non existing with f2p one.

Edited May 21, 2023 by WinstonWolfe

[Untergangsmelder 549]

6 hours ago, Thodin said:

 

 

 

 

Extrem äußerst Lichtjahre Negativ  

[Thodin 6,784]

55 minutes ago, WinstonWolfe said:

My biggest problem is the economy. Nerfing premiums which cost its money and today you can't use them, and the reality that forces me (owning premium account for few years in row) to farm SL on low battle ratings.

 

BTW grind is ridiculous even with premium acc, non existing with f2p one.

 

Yup, buying a SL grinder premium and then they nerf the SL/RP modifier

 

I've got premiums which barely have 180% SL modifier, while similar TT vehicles have around 140% or even 180% as well.....so in fact its almost not premium anymore. As I obtained them it was alot higher. You basically buy stuff and over time they reduce the prem boni. Its not how it should be. When you buy an item, it should keep its value.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Thodin

[ARK_BOI 810]

If you take a closer look this is not the review bombing at all most of the people that give the review play the game for couple of hundreds of hours

what does it mean? they are not bot or new account they are the players that have experience of the game 

Edited May 21, 2023 by ARK_BOI

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

I need to say that current situation completly spiraled out of control and sadly I feel like both sides are to blame.

 

Gaijin for not having ounce of self reflection in what they write because the response and clarifications regarding the issues were really bad. And then there is their inability to create monetization model with having toptier be money black hole.

 

But I also need to say that community response was/is bad, the econ changes were bad only for top tier vehicles other tiers got net reduction in costs. But community instead of providing proper feedback regarding the issue in place where they might be heard the go to complain on reddit and when that doesn´t work they decide to review bomb the steam and feel like real heroes because of it. Looking at the numbers (10000+ reviews) I guarantee that if people werent lazy and actually went on the forum and complained we wouldn´t be in this situation. 

 

I am honestly still baffled by the never ending complaing about the slow TT progression I simply don´t get it. I understand the stock grind because that is awful but why is it issue that player doesn´t get shiny new toy every 20-50 battles. What is bad about it, if someone enjoys the game then I don´t see the reason for the need to have shiny new toys and if someone doesn´t enjoy the game I really don´t believe that that shiny new toy will magically fix that.

I can understand the point when someone is interested in only modern vehicles and I think that is something which should be adressed but that isn´t what the majority of the complaing is about.

Edited May 21, 2023 by Shadow__CZ

[ARK_BOI 810]

8 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

But community instead of providing proper feedback regarding the issue in place

Community did that many time and did Gaijin ever listen? never at all 

8 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

review bomb the steam

like i said take a closer look at the players that write the review most of them they have couple hundreds of hours in the game it mean it sound of experience players really can't say the review bombing 

Edited May 21, 2023 by ARK_BOI

[Bruce_R1 2,118]

8 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

I guarantee that if people werent lazy and actually went on the forum and complained we wouldn´t be in this situation.

That would be fine, if the forum mods haven't repeatedly said that any criticism of the company or it's policies can potentially violate forum rule 1.1.1, "insulting a Gaijin employee."

When people go on the forum and complain... well, that would seem to break 1.1.1. People here have been banned and suspended, posts locked and deleted, all because of 1.1.1. Maybe some of those people felt they had no choice left to them anymore.

[Firestarter__ 106]

6 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

I need to say that current situation completly spiraled out of control and sadly I feel like both sides are to blame.

 

But I also need to say that community response was/is bad, the econ changes were bad only for top tier vehicles other tiers got net reduction in costs. But community instead of providing proper feedback regarding the issue in place where they might be heard the go to complain on reddit and when that doesn´t work they decide to review bomb the steam and feel like real heroes because of it. Looking at the numbers (10000+ reviews) I guarantee that if people werent lazy and actually went on the forum and complained we wouldn´t be in this situation. 

 

That's the thing - we have - in my case, i am infuriated with Gaijin's lack of action on bug reports for my particular nation of choice, britain. despite being given ample primary source documents on the Tornado, the SRAAM, the Harrier, the Jaguar, the Skyflash, etc etc, Gaijin does not react/respond at all. Your report gets shelved unless it suits them. Okay, fine, i'm not impartial - go look at spookston's various videos - M41 Turret Traverse, HSTV-L bug reports, and so on all ignored. for no good reason

And finally there is the backbreaking economy which now means that if you play you lose out. no matter what somehow the failings can be traced to gaijin to an extent. The community would've preferred it if our feedback had been acknowledged and actioned on the forums. it hasn't, and so we as a community have gone to the last resort, the means to an end if you will. If "review bombing" (i struggle to call it that: a good number of reviews aren't from people who've got no time on their account) is the effective way, so be it. by any means necessary now.

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

1 minute ago, ARK_BOI said:

Community did that many time and did Gaijin never listen? never at all 

Gaijin listend several times and all it took to complain on forums and they eventually caved. Module upgrades come to mind or how it was called

 

1 minute ago, ARK_BOI said:

like i said take a closer look at the players that write the review most of them they have couple hundreds of hours in the game it mean it sound of experience players really can't say the review bombing 

And my point still stands:

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But community instead of providing proper feedback regarding the issue in place where they might be heard the go to complain on reddit and when that doesn´t work they decide to review bomb the steam and feel like real heroes because of it. Looking at the numbers (10000+ reviews) I guarantee that if people werent lazy and actually went on the forum and complained we wouldn´t be in this situation. 

 

3 minutes ago, Bruce_R1 said:

That would be fine, if the forum mods haven't repeatedly said that any criticism of the company or it's policies can potentially violate forum rule 1.1.1, "insulting a Gaijin employee."

When people go on the forum and complain... well, that would seem to break 1.1.1. People here have been banned and suspended, posts locked and deleted, all because of 1.1.1. Maybe some of those people felt they had no choice left to them anymore.

Come on, the complaing can be without insulting and being civil. If the thousands bombing steam juts simply wrote that top tier repair cost are too high ect ect they wouldn´t be banned that is simply untrue.

[ACOMETS 977]

5 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

Gaijin listend several times and all it took to complain on forums and they eventually caved. Module upgrades come to mind or how it was called

 

And my point still stands:

 

tell me . why I no longer get 500K best squad wagers? 

where are the gold wagers?

why a jet never having a missile should get it as a filler missile to harden the grind?

why something like HSTV-l doesnt get HE-VT round to stop heli spam backed up by 60dollar premium DESPITE community asking for it from the start?

aren't all these community feedback?

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

6 minutes ago, Firestarter__ said:

That's the thing - we have - in my case, i am infuriated with Gaijin's lack of action on bug reports for my particular nation of choice, britain. despite being given ample primary source documents on the Tornado, the SRAAM, the Harrier, the Jaguar, the Skyflash, etc etc, Gaijin does not react/respond at all. Your report gets shelved unless it suits them. Okay, fine, i'm not impartial - go look at spookston's various videos - M41 Turret Traverse, HSTV-L bug reports, and so on all ignored. for no good reason

I also have problems with how the bug reporting works (even though I am not avid bug reporter myself) but I am lately getting the feeling that the issue isn´t completly inside the Gaijin as the company but with some of the bug report mods. Which is still Gaijin´s fault but logically Gaijin can´t fix bugs if they bugs don´t get to them.

 

6 minutes ago, Firestarter__ said:

And finally there is the backbreaking economy which now means that if you play you lose out. no matter what somehow the failings can be traced to gaijin to an extent. The community would've preferred it if our feedback had been acknowledged and actioned on the forums. it hasn't, and so we as a community have gone to the last resort, the means to an end if you will. If "review bombing" (i struggle to call it that: a good number of reviews aren't from people who've got no time on their account) is the effective way, so be it. by any means necessary now.

Again the economy discussion thread has just 7 pages which is with average of 30 post per page that is just 210 posts at best where are the thousands which are now leaving the reviews on steam?

[ACOMETS 977]

this also is community feedback , lets see what happedns

[Bat_the_Judge 982]

2 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

And my point still stands:

I have to disagree with that. People on the forums have been complaining at a steady pace for years, and all it led to is to a slow decline in SL gains and introduction of new vehicles with insane RP costs to make reaching the top tier take more and more time. Sure, if 10,000+ people would complain in a couple of days about this on the forum, the sheer volume of the complaints would definitely attract gaijin's attention. But would it elicit change? It may cause a similar article as to what was published now explaining the economy, and perhaps reversion of the recent economy update, and that's about it. 

Now sure, not much has come out of review bombing yet, but seeing as reddit and steam and even google is much more popular than WT forums, it is definitely going to hurt Gaijin's reputation more. And with that comes a much bigger incentive to regain favor with the community by caving into their demands a little bit at least. 

What I am saying overall is that if it was simply complaining on the forums, the whole drama would've ended after reversion of the economy changes and perhaps a little article from Gaijin. But I am now confident that in the upcoming working week there will be bigger changes - the pace at which negative reviews are coming in is not slowing down much, the response from the Snail is likely to be much more sophisticated. Of course, this is all just a prediction, but really I don't think there's any other way about it. And this is something that even 10,000+ posts on forum about this could never accomplish

[Hextor_ 2]

Honestly the funny thing about this entire situation is that this was inevitable and entirely preventable. If gaijin didn't constantly poke the bee's nest with a stick everything would be fine. However, Now they have to deal with a probably permanent mark on their steam page as i doubt many people will reverse their rating even after proper changes are made. Also removing negative posts in forums only made this worse as instead of all the negative reviews being spread over multiple places. Gaijin instead funneled everyone's criticism to a single place which happened to be the worst place they could have possible funneled it to. So good job gaijin.

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

3 minutes ago, Bat_the_Judge said:

I have to disagree with that. People on the forums have been complaining at a steady pace for years, and all it led to is to a slow decline in SL gains and introduction of new vehicles with insane RP costs to make reaching the top tier take more and more time. Sure, if 10,000+ people would complain in a couple of days about this on the forum, the sheer volume of the complaints would definitely attract gaijin's attention. But would it elicit change? It may cause a similar article as to what was published now explaining the economy, and perhaps reversion of the recent economy update, and that's about it. 

Now sure, not much has come out of review bombing yet, but seeing as reddit and steam and even google is much more popular than WT forums, it is definitely going to hurt Gaijin's reputation more. And with that comes a much bigger incentive to regain favor with the community by caving into their demands a little bit at least. 

What I am saying overall is that if it was simply complaining on the forums, the whole drama would've ended after reversion of the economy changes and perhaps a little article from Gaijin. But I am now confident that in the upcoming working week there will be bigger changes - the pace at which negative reviews are coming in is not slowing down much, the response from the Snail is likely to be much more sophisticated. Of course, this is all just a prediction, but really I don't think there's any other way about it. And this is something that even 10,000+ posts on forum about this could never accomplish

At this rate I am half expecting Sanils knee jerk reaction to be to simply to remove WT from steam.

 

I don´t buy that forum activity wouldn´t accomplish anything if it would be sufficiently large. But I simply want to give Snail the benefit of a doubt and I simply don´t like the cult this whole issue has turned into with many people being gleefully happy. 

 

I can see gaijin doing drastic changes after all the repair cost isn´t inherently needed for their model.