Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion

[PARDUS IX@live 263]

12 hours ago, KilianL said:

I think gaijin must have a rank IV premium french ship planned for the next update. would be strange not to.

I hope its a La Galissonniere class cruiser either Jean de Vienne, or Marseillaise since they were scuttled with one or two of the others that survived in the tech tree after Emil Bertan.

Edited June 15, 2023 by PARDUS IX@live

[jon_man1199 563]

19 minutes ago, Hyrikul said:

Hello there.

 

I think we can put on rumors about French BBs Courbet and Bretagne, since they are strangly talked about in the official La Royale video at 1:20 (vid with time in spoiler).

 

Strange they named 4 BBs while we got 2 at the release (Paris and Lorraine), i think this mean the 2 other (Courbet and Bretagne) are on the way, and maybe they were scheduled for La Royale but weren't ready in time..

Could signify that we may get a Courbet and a Bretagne as built, just considering we ended up getting the final modifications of each class already. 

9 minutes ago, PARDUS IX@live said:

I hope its a La Galissonniere class cruiser either Jean de Vienne, or Marseillaise since they were scuttled with one or two of the others that survived in the tech tree after Emil Bertan.

I think the La Galissonniere-class is definitely a reasonable bet for a French Rank IV Cruiser. Either that or De Grasse as laid down.  

[sudo__su 457]

I think F-15 is basically granted at this point 
There is basically nothing else they can add (as far as top tier goes)
And F-15 can be copy-pasted for multiple nations.

And F-15 would sort of warrant Su-27 for Russia and China ... 

[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

10 hours ago, SPANISH_AVENGER said:

Imagine having K2PL, M1A2 SEPv3 and Leopard 2PL in the same lineup…

 

Don't forget about the PT-91 variants, PT-92, their SPAAGs and their wheeled tanks like the WWO Wilk)

[Deathmisser 4,058]

Looks like I need to make a thread again. 

[Motherhen357@psn 702]

9 hours ago, Deathmisser said:

  plus only 2 naval trees left to add.

Three, we're in the " one or other tree " era discussed in this Q&A ( https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/226127-dev-questions-answers-compilation/&do=findComment&comment=8856407 )

Now that all current ingame nations have a heli-techtree, it 's only logical that the next research trees to be added into them will be their Naval ones.

 

[Arcadia_Nyx 811]

15 hours ago, KilianL said:

I think gaijin must have a rank IV premium french ship planned for the next update. would be strange not to.

To take the Italian example, Pola appeared 5 months after "Starfighters" Update when the main TT was implemented, so unfortunately I don't think a rank 4 cruiser will appear for a while...

Personally, what France needs most right now is a Coastal TT, which is mandatory for CAP, and I hope that the next update will bring a French Coastal TT along with a Premium boat...
 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Alpine_Lynx

[KilianL 865]

5 hours ago, Alpine_Lynx said:

To take the Italian example, Pola appeared 5 months after "Starfighters" Update when the main TT was implemented, so unfortunately I don't think a rank 4 cruiser will appear for a while...

Personally, what France needs most right now is a Coastal TT, which is mandatory for CAP, and I hope that the next update will bring a French Coastal TT along with a Premium boat...
 

Italy was introduced shortly  before the change to the new system of naval tech trees. I dont think it is comparable. 

 

I agree about the coastal. 

 

Edit : Im trying to find the dates again just to make sure im not talking crap

 

2nd Edit : 

Starfighters / Regia Marina : June 2020.

Raining fire : "nothing"

Split in New Power november 2020

RN Pola in December 2020

 

I still believe a Rank IV will come sooner than Pola did for the italian navy.

Edited June 16, 2023 by KilianL

[Threashold 224]

I wouldn't mind if they add more tutorials on naval aiming mechanic, It's a little bit hard to aim and understand how it works. as well as navy is kind of boring. I hope they can find a way to make navy fun and attracting gamemode.

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

1 hour ago, Threashold said:

I wouldn't mind if they add more tutorials on naval aiming mechanic, It's a little bit hard to aim and understand how it works. as well as navy is kind of boring. I hope they can find a way to make navy fun and attracting gamemode.

They already have new UI for the aiming in the works which is in the game but right now is disabled. 

[Arghail 1,220]

51 minutes ago, Shadow__CZ said:

They already have new UI for the aiming in the works which is in the game but right now is disabled. 

 

Do we already have photos or videos of this UI in progress ?

[Stavroforos 15,367]

3 hours ago, Threashold said:

I wouldn't mind if they add more tutorials on naval aiming mechanic, It's a little bit hard to aim and understand how it works. as well as navy is kind of boring. I hope they can find a way to make navy fun and attracting gamemode.

If I recall in the last Q&A they said that they're working on new tutorials for more modern stuff, hopefully this includes a more detailed naval tutorial.

 

Honestly it would also be swell if they could make a bunch of mini tutorials for radar modes, different missile types, different bomb types, etc. 

[x_Shini_ 434]

5 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

If I recall in the last Q&A they said that they're working on new tutorials for more modern stuff, hopefully this includes a more detailed naval tutorial.

 

Honestly it would also be swell if they could make a bunch of mini tutorials for radar modes, different missile types, different bomb types, etc. 

I think they answered the tutorial questions, as part of the answer to the content creator letter and what they thought is needed for the game

[Threashold 224]

11 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

If I recall in the last Q&A they said that they're working on new tutorials for more modern stuff, hopefully this includes a more detailed naval tutorial.

 

Honestly it would also be swell if they could make a bunch of mini tutorials for radar modes, different missile types, different bomb types, etc. 

Yes, That's highly needed! too many players doesn't know how to use each type of radars and missiles. they struggle to advance in top tiers. 

[Hyrikul 2,633]

8 hours ago, Alpine_Lynx said:

To take the Italian example, Pola appeared 5 months after "Starfighters" Update when the main TT was implemented, so unfortunately I don't think a rank 4 cruiser will appear for a while...

Personally, what France needs most right now is a Coastal TT, which is mandatory for CAP, and I hope that the next update will bring a French Coastal TT along with a Premium boat...
 

Really want the coastal !

 

Gimme that boat with amx-13 turret !

[bananomet 633]

13 hours ago, sudo__su said:

I think F-15 is basically granted at this point 
There is basically nothing else they can add (as far as top tier goes)
And F-15 can be copy-pasted for multiple nations.

And F-15 would sort of warrant Su-27 for Russia and China ... 

F/A-18(early) comes next update and F-15A for Israel. Germany gets Alpha Jet.

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

2 hours ago, Arghail said:

Do we already have photos or videos of this UI in progress ?

No we only have assets and components which are ment to be used. I will post the datamine and assets here later. 

[SPANISH_AVENGER 11,786]

4 hours ago, Threashold said:

navy is kind of boring. I hope they can find a way to make navy fun and attracting gamemode.

That’s highly subjective, to be fair.

 

While some players may find Naval’s slower pace boring, this is precisely the appeal for the players who don’t necessarily want everything to be ultra-fast paced for a change instead.

 

Well, that’s only if that’s what you referring to; if you were referring to something else, my bad hahah

[Stavroforos 15,367]

2 minutes ago, SPANISH_AVENGER said:

That’s highly subjective, to be fair.

 

While some players may find Naval’s slower pace boring, this is precisely the appeal for the players who don’t necessarily want everything to be ultra-fast paced for a change instead.

 

Well, that’s only if that’s what you referring to; if you were referring to something else, my bad hahah

Honestly I find naval to be too fast paced, the fact that from the beginning of the battle until the end I need to be aiming, shooting, etc., is just too tiring. 

[__Renzo__ 2,684]

24 minutes ago, bananomet said:

F/A-18(early) comes next update and F-15A for Israel. Germany gets Alpha Jet.

I doubt they would add an F-15 without also giving it to the US as well, looking from a money pov and how iconic the F-15 is for the US. 

 

However seeing how obsessed Gaijin seems to be with US navy planes unfortunately I could see what you said happening. 

Edited June 16, 2023 by __Renzo__

[SPANISH_AVENGER 11,786]

46 minutes ago, Stavroforos said:

Honestly I find naval to be too fast paced, the fact that from the beginning of the battle until the end I need to be aiming, shooting, etc., is just too tiring. 

 

True! It's almost paradoxical; while match durations tend to be long, as well as times to kill, it's also fast paced in that sense; engagements from the very moment you spawn, to the very moment the match ends.

[Hyrikul 2,633]

1 hour ago, bananomet said:

F/A-18(early) comes next update and F-15A for Israel. Germany gets Alpha Jet.

Don't forget France if Germany get Alpha jet.

 

France can get 2 variants, including one more modern.

[Shadow__CZ 2,198]

@TheElite96 regarding the naval part there is new UI for FCS in the works. The assets were first datamined in 2.26.0.34 p. 7 and later the code was also included in 2.26.0.42. All of these are present on live server but are disabled for now. 

From what I can guess by looking at the data mine code it very likely wont actually change the aiming system itself but it is major change to UI and to what feedback player gets from the FCS. Looking at it there seem to be two major aspects to the new UI first is FCS computer like UI with the ship icons and aditional info (heading angle, taret speed). The second part is shot result display where it displays if the shots landed.

 

The assets (GUI images)

Spoiler

     enemy ship icon and player ship icon   

 

 

Splash indicators

    Hit                                 Over                                 Under                               Stradle

 

 fcs_shot_right

  fcs_shot_wrong

 

Background

 

There are also new UI texts as @Motherhen357@psn noted and that is from  1.26.0.25 Dev server Datamine p. 3

Spoiler

• New UI Text

  • "OVER"

  • "SHORT"

  • "STRADLE!"

  • "HIT!"

  • "target speed"

  • "heading angle"

 

The FCS code can be looked at 2.26.0.42 datamine on Gszabi99´s github these are located in gui.vromfs.bin_u > reactivegui > fcscomponent.nut or fcsstate.nut and fcsstatequeue.nut. Or in current live server datamine in the same location.

 

 

 

 

@Arghail  here is the more detailed post about the new FCS

Edited June 16, 2023 by Shadow__CZ

[Arghail 1,220]

Thanks for the post @Shadow__CZ. Lots of very interesting stuff, not gonna lie. We'll see what the final result is, since the assets do not give a clear picture yet of what the overall UI is supposed to look like.

[MacedonianSukhoi 617]

45 minutes ago, __Renzo__ said:

I doubt they would add an F-15 without also giving it to the US as well, looking from a money pov and how iconic the F-15 is for the US. 

 

However seeing how obsessed Gaijin seems to be with US navy planes unfortunately I could see what you said happening. 

US Navy aviation is just much cooler in the 4th Gen Era