Aircraft/Loadouts Supermarine Seafire FR.47

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

Supermarine Seafire FR.47

 

The Seafire FR.47 was the last in the long line of Spitfire/Seafires , almost unrecognisable when compared to the original Spitfire Mk 1a designed by R.J Mitchel when it began to enter service in 1946/7. It showed just how much development had gone on from the 10 year lifespan of the Spitfire/Seafire family and embodied the series as a whole and showed how much potential could be derived from the airframe , signalling the end of the piston era fighters at the dawn of the jet age.

 

The FR.47 was in tern a Spitfire Mk 24 airframe , with a Griffon 88 Engine driving a Contra-rotating propeller and converted for Royal Navy use. Folding wings were added over the Mk 46 and the Supercharger intake was redesigned under the engine to form a more streamline scoop. The Contra prop eliminated all torque (a major factor with the Griffon engine) and was a massive advantage to carrier take-off and landings over previous marks of Seafire.

 

Other improvements included stronger landing gear and an improved cockpit. Armament Consisted of Four 20mm Hispano V cannons with options for 8 60lb RP-3 Rockets or 3 x 500lb bombs. The fighter could be equip out for longer range missions with a fuselage or wing mounted external fuel tanks also.

 

 

 

Operational service and combat

 

Seafires from 800 NAS saw combat first in the Malayan Emergency which proved to be only a minor combat tour. The major test for the Seafire first came in 1950 when HMS Triumph was called to the Korean theatre to assist the UN actions there. Never actually intended to see combat however HMS Triumph prior to the call to Korea was due to return home and reequip her outdated Seafires with Sea Fury's , however Triumph was the closet carrier to Korea and was to be used until replacements became available.

 

HMS Triumph and the Seafires FR.47 and Firefly FR.1s were placed under the command of US Vice Admiral C.T Joy and joined the US 7th fleet from Okinawa. Seafires were used for low level attacks with the US corsairs and British Firefly's to devastating effect on North Korean airfields. Seafires were also used on various escort missions covering both US aircraft and the Venerable and outdated Firefly Mk 1s. Black and White Stripes (Similar to the D-day ones) where applied to all Fleet air arm machines to try to prevent US friendly fire incidents that had occurred with Firefly's and later one Seafire.

 

Seafire FR.47s were used up until September 21st 1950 when an exhausted HMS triumph was ordered to stand down and return to the UK swapped for her replacement HMS Theseus carrying the more modern Sea Fury's and Firefly Mk 4s.

 

800 squadron suffered no combat loses , loosing only 1 Seafire to an American B-29 bomber when on an escort mission , who claimed they mistook the Seafire for a North Korean Yak-9. Other than that. 9 Seafires were retired by the end of the combat from the original 12 due to exhaustion from the carrier landings and general wear and tear. All Seafire Fr.47s were eventually retied by 1951 and the Sea Fury , Firefly Mk 4s and Attackers saw the rest of the Korean conflict threw representing the UK. However the Seafire had proven itself as a vital combatant in the early opening stages of the war , where is contributions are often forgotten or overlooked by the more successful Sea Fury.

 

 

Specs and information

 

 

Wingspan : 36 ft 11 in (11.25 m) -  19 ft 1 in (5.82 m) (wings folded)

 

Wing Area : 243.6 ft² (23.6 m²)

 

Length : 34 ft 4 in (10.46 m)

 

Power plant : Rolls-Royce Griffon 88 - Power - 2,350 hp (1,752 kW) at 1,250 ft (380 m)

 

Maximum speed : 452 mph (393 knots), (727 km/h) at 20,500 ft (6,250 m)

 

Rate of climb:  4,800 ft/min (24.4 m/s) at sea level (0 m)

 

Service celling : 43,100 ft (13,135 m) 

 

Wing loading : 43.9 lb/ft² (205 kg/m²) or 51.4 lb/ft² (240 kg/m²)

 

Power/mass : 0.22 hp/lb (0.36 kW/kg)

                        0.18 hp/lb (0.30 kW/kg)

 

Combat range : 405 mi (652 km) on internal fuel

 

Ferry Range : 1,475 mi (2,374 km) with 90 gal drop tank

 

Armament :

• 4 × 20 mm Hispano V cannon; 175 rpg inboard, 150 rpg outboard
• up to 8 × "60 lb" RP-3 Rockets on zero-length launchers
• up to 3 × 500 lb (230 kg) Bombs

 

 

The last surviving Seafire FR.47

 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YioXYhbVPA[/media]

 

 

In War Thunder:

 

In game I think the FR.47 Would be an excellent tier 16 high tier British prop to round of the Spitfire / Seafire family line nicely. It provides the Fleet Air Arm components in game nicely with a high tier prop to complement the Sea Fury and also provide the option for an excellent attacker.

 

The Seafire was an important British Combatant in the Opening of the Korean war , fitting the timeframe for War Thunder nicely. It also adds to the British Naval arsenal in game and offers more potential for a British carrier map later down the road.

[ceating 3,113]

da faq is with that Arrestor hook?

 

why did they make it that short? :crazy:

(I know can extend and the rudder could bend down but that is still really short for a arrestor hook

Edited October 27, 2013 by ceating

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

da faq is with that Arrestor hook?

 

why did they make it that short? :crazy:

(I know can extend and the rudder could bend down but that is still really short for a arrestor hook

 

Yeah its part of the contraption I think , the whole bottom part of the tail technically is part of the hook recovery :Ps

[_Knecht_ 81]

God, im not even British and i think i just jizzed mah pants D: that is one SEXY aircraft

[Foxztrot 220]

A beautiful aircraft indeed, it would be an excellent addition to the game and would add nicely to the already strong line of British energy fighters with that performance!  :yes:

[Century 4,560]

God, im not even British and i think i just jizzed mah pants D: that is one SEXY aircraft

 

Take 2 extra pants when you see "Sagittario" then :)

[DSRT888 1,603]

I'm still waiting for the typical Nazi fanboy to say
 

"Its not WW2 therefor it should be fighting MiG-15s and not my aircraft, ahaahahah"

Anyways, nice post! 

But do the RAF really need this plane?

I mean the Spitfire 21 is already scary enough, lol. 

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Edited October 27, 2013 by DSRT888
Dont call people mean names.

[minamin230 993]

it looks like a mustang mixed with a meteor XD 

[Lyth0c 664]

This plane is beyond beautiful. If this is getting added, I'll be so god damn happy. If it then has a acceptable FM. 

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

I'm still waiting for the typical Nazi fanboy to say
 

"Its not WW2 therefor it should be fighting MiG-15s and not my aircraft, ahaahahah"

Anyways, nice post! 

But do the RAF really need this plane?

I mean the Spitfire 21 is already scary enough, lol. 

 

 

Do the RAF need it ? Nah

 

Do the Fleet Air Arm ? Defiantly :lol:

If you have a look at the release tree Britain's FAA inset bad (I love what we are getting and im great full for it) but we do need a bit more if there is ever a chance of Britain having a carrier map , plus since the Royal navy were a big part of Brittan's war effort I think we could use all the help we can get.

 

Not to mention , did you see that video in the post ? how could you not want it ? ;)s

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

looks cool but i would much rather they put something ANTICIPATED into the game. 

 

This is for the back of the queue , don't expect this to jump gap at all.

 

Just think it would be an awesome British high tier and give the Royal Navy some real gravity with more Fleet Air Arm fighters.

[Guilotine 187]

Nice looking plane but tiering this thing might be dificult without getting FLAK from any nation player base. Ganjin seriously needs to start looking how to increase number of tiers and re-tier the planes, becouse ammount of post war stuff were getting is getting quite same proportions as Current Korean era Covering from USSR and USAAF.

Edited October 27, 2013 by Guilotine

[HelIblazer 635]

Superb! Words can't describe the awesome roar of that Griffon.

 

C'mon Gaijin, *nudge**nudge**wink**wink* ;)s

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

Superb! Words can't describe the awesome roar of that Griffon.

 

C'mon Gaijin, *nudge**nudge**wink**wink* ;)s

 

Hopefully we will see it sometime , the last of the many :yes:

[Soviet_Bishop 952]

Finally a good Spitfire...

[Army_41_24485 251]

I don't know man, I really want to say yes to this but I don't like that only 90 were made, and after the War. Tiering would be a pain. Germans and Japs would want it tiered out of WW2, Brits wouldn't want it in Korea.

 

It is one of those high end prop planes that just not fun to deal with like that. I suppose I could see it being with the Ta-152 and F8F. I just really don't like the short production run.

[BuccaneerBill 529]

There's plenty of planes that had a production run of 1 or close to 1 in the game.  90 is mass produced in this case!

[Army_41_24485 251]

There's plenty of planes that had a production run of 1 or close to 1 in the game.  90 is mass produced in this case!

 

True. And if Smin says this is needed for balance I will take his word for it. I just don't like it is all.

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

I don't know man, I really want to say yes to this but I don't like that only 90 were made, and after the War. Tiering would be a pain. Germans and japanese would want it tiered out of WW2, Brits wouldn't want it in Korea.

 

It is one of those high end prop planes that just not fun to deal with like that. I suppose I could see it being with the Ta-152 and F8F. I just really don't like the short production run.

 

 

Not so much for balance , in fact the K4 , Ta performance is very similar with the F8F and Sea Fury having better performance.

 

Tier 16 would just give the Brits a high tier Spitfire to combat the High tier Bf109 K4.

 

The main reason is to flesh out the Royal Navy side of the tree , this was an important fighter and saw combat service , also 90 might seem a lot , but that's still more than the D-12 and D-13 production numbers with both of those two combined making up less than 1/4 of the Seafires total and both of them planes are in game.

 

In post war years , in Britain especially , Aircraft were not built in massive numbers as such anymore , more so the last Prop fighters like the FR.47.

[MuffinBomber 186]

T17 I think would do.

[Czappu 874]

This Spacefire is so classy, it may win all beauty screenshit contest in WT :)

Really versatile and high performance fighter, that can even land on carriers.
Wow, just wow.

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

This Spacefire is so classy, it may win all beauty screenshit contest in WT :)

Really versatile and high performance fighter, that can even land on carriers.
Wow, just wow.

 

 

Yeah , basically its a Spit almost 100% catered to carrier born use and with better performance than most of its predecessors

[Quilvy 377]

Yeah , basically its a Spit almost 100% catered to carrier born use and with better performance than most of its predecessors

 

and it looks so graceful :D

[Rautaa 5,801]

Passed to Development.  :salute: 

[Lassar 9,736]

Yes, we will have several seafires in our game