Tanks/Vehicles Tiger I Ausf E Late version

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

TIGER I AUSF E was confirmed for 1.47. Thank you all for the support!  :salute: 

 

Greetings community and Gaijin.

 

Since we have in game a lot of different vehicles that have not quite different specifications it would be nice to have this late version of Tiger I ausf E. It was even confirmed before CBT in this tank tree. Recent update 1.43 brought a really nice updated model of the Tiger I so conversion to Ausf E would be really nice, easy and beautiful addition. Suggested BR same as Panther Ausf D 6.0.

 

What were the main differences between Ausf H1 (that is in the game) and E versions? Many of you may not now and even I might lack some information about that but so far this is quite a lot. So lets revise it!

 

Update: MG42 could be added to commander.

 

Tiger I Ausf E

 

- changed engine to Maybach HL230. providing 700hp at 3 000rpm

- steel roadwheels instead of rubber-rimmed wheels.

- removed smoke candle dischargers

- removed Feifel air cleaner system

- lighter muzzle brake with insert

- instead of two lights only one was used in middle between driver and machine gunner

- added zimmerit

- the front lower glacis used to carry spare tracks and provide additional armor

- new gun mantlet

 

Redesigned Turret

 

- turret top armor was increased from 25 to 40mm

- added Turret ring guard (this prevented artilery shells and anti-tank projectiles from jamming the turret)

- loader's hatch is changed to short hinged version

- changed cuppola for cuppola with periscopes and with swivel hatch (Tiger II, Panther style cuppola)

- the exhaust fan moved forward

- anti-aircraft MG added

- no escape hatch at left rear (or is that MP Stopfen correctly called?)

 

 

 

Some photos

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bonus large image

http://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/tanks/tiger-tank/Tiger_I_tank_45.jpg

 

Sources:

http://www.alanhamby.com/tigerlinks.shtml

http://www.alanhamby.com/technical.shtml

http://www.alanhamby.com/changes.shtml

http://www.alanhamby.com/late.shtml

http://www.missing-lynx.com/panzer_facts/pftiger.htm

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/Panzer-VI_Tiger.php

http://books.google.sk/books?id=NddJk1OorTIC&printsec=frontcover&hl=sk#v=onepage&q&f=false

 

Hardcopy Book

Thomas Anderson - Tiger, ISBN 978-80-247-5077-4, @ Grada Publishing, a.s., 2014 (First published in Great Britain in 2013, by Osprey Publishing Ltd, Midland House, West Way, Botley, Oxford OX2 0PH)

 

Photo sources:

http://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/germany/tanks-2-3/

 

Blueprints

http://www.smcars.net/attachments/tank-pz-kpfw-vi-tiger-ausf-e-1944-a-jpg.119711/

http://www.smcars.net/attachments/tank-pz-kpfw-vi-tiger-ausf-e-1944-b-jpg.119712/

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2hygr9.jpg

 

Aditional links

http://www.tiif.de/print.php?threadid=651&page=1&sid=14e8061fc515dc1cf010b1f71a3b38ec

 

Thank you very much, I hope you will support this and elaborate on more information so it can be added soon!

Major Shaker out!

:salute:

 

PS: It is not intended to be premium as we will have Tiger I Porsche versions as premium. :yes:

 

Edit:

 

Changes needed for Ausf E based on current in game model, improvised with Tiger II H

 

Official response (translated via Google translate)

Later Tiger, version "E" as it is called, may be added in the 1.47 already, but not exactly. Maybe later we will do and the first serial Tiger "eared" as it is called Russian modelers.

Source: http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/208740-bvv-answers-about-tanks-and-tanks-only-answers-in-russian/page-4

 

Original message

 

Более поздний тигр, версии  "Е" как его еще называют, будет добавлен возможно в 1.47 уже, но не точно. Возможно позже мы сделаем и самый первый серийный тигр "ушастый" как его еще называют русские моделисты.

Edited February 8, 2015 by Major_Shaker

[Smin1080p 60,444]

Open for discussion  :salute:

[VuLTURE 583]

long time ago in cbt forums devs said ausf E will come with 88mm APCR shells but still no info about it.

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

long time ago in cbt forums devs said ausf E will come with 88mm APCR shells but still no info about it.

 

Thats good... Pzgr. 40 (APCR) would be nice addition for late version!
;)s

[Tank50us 266]

Yes, we need more Tigers, but then again I think I might be quoting the crazy mustache man there 0.o

 

Anyway, yeah, WT is in need of having more models of the Tiger available, if for no other reason then to allow players who WANT to have a full line up of Tigers to do so.... highly impractical in my opinion, but the option should be there.

[Marsvinet 278]

I'd love having a later tiger 1. I personally don't like the Tiger II, I like the blockyness of the earlier tigers, so having one more, with small upgrades would be nice.

[Valkyrian0 2,245]

I would love another tiger 1, could fit nicely in between the auf H and the first tiger 2.

+1

[sabaton_ 3,821]

it saw combat, of course we want it +1

[BlaZebura 3,688]

Yes

 

 

Tiger I looks better aesthetically than Tiger II

[kevQC 2,814]

-snip-

Very well detailed post! +1  :good:

 

There is one detail though... I'm pretty sure late versions of the Tiger Ausf. E had only 1 gunner sight hole because it was found that it was a weakness in the armor when there were 2.

 

Edited October 13, 2014 by kevQC

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

Very well detailed post! +1 

 

There is one detail though... I'm pretty sure late versions of the Tiger Ausf. E had only 1 gunner sight hole because it was found that it was a weakness in the armor when there were 2.

 

 

 

Thank you very much. That is why I put Wittmann's picture to show 1 gunner sight hole. I hope Gaijin will make it only with one sight.

[TT33a 5,404]

What were the main differences between Ausf H1 (that is in the game) and E versions? Many of you may not now and even I might lack some information about that but so far this is quite a lot. So lets revise it!

 

 

 

 

[PantherAl 4,883]

Very well detailed post! +1  :good:

 

There is one detail though... I'm pretty sure late versions of the Tiger Ausf. E had only 1 gunner sight hole because it was found that it was a weakness in the armor when there were 2.

 

 

 

Not so much that as to that they went to a monocular gunsight vs. the more expensive binocular.  Same thing happened on some of the other Panzers as well.

[Guest]

Be great to have late tiger I model :yes:

[BUTCH_JACKSON 16,636]

Best suggestion I've read. Give it APCR on top, put at 6.0 BR, perfect. Would like to see this in the game.

[Tchar 952]

+1 to this suggestion, great post  :yes:  :salute:

[TomoffeI 368]

+1 I want this in the game soo much BR 6.0 seems reasonable

 

Providing some more pictures:

 

Front:

 

Headlight:

 

Sparetracks:

 

Gun mantlet left:

 

Gun mantlet right:

 

Muzzle break:

 

Commander's copula:

 

Loader's hatch:

 

Exhaust fan:

 

Steel roadwheels:

 

Sorry for the long post, but I hope, I could help  :salute:

Edit: for more pictures visit the source: http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/tiger1late/t1.htm

Edited October 18, 2014 by TomoffeI

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

TomoffeI - thank you for the nice pictures and link

[Smin1080p 60,444]

Moved to further discussion  :salute: 

[Abgeschossene 10,084]

Gib.

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

Thank you Smin1080p

[PeterLuk 731]

Yes please! :good:  How I know, Tiger I late is in first tech tree and there is place for it in game tech tree, so I am waiting for it. 

[posuidexiaoming 546]

I vote YES... and give it APCR ammo.

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

Thank you for support! Keep it up :salute:

[Tchar 952]

I vote YES... and give it APCR ammo.

The recommended and most usual mix was 50 percent APCBC (Pzgr.39) and 50 percent HE (Sprenggranaten - high explosive shells). A few rounds of the rare (due to the shortage of tungsten carbide) APCR (Pzgr.40) ammunition might be carried for use against the heaviest armored Russian tanks and tank destroyers. The Gr.39 HL (Hohlgranate) based on the hollow charge principle (HEAT), was less accurate and much less destructive than the APCBC rounds, but could be carried in place of the HE rounds and used either to combat armor or as effective high explosive ammunition against soft targets.