Tanks/Vehicles M50 Ontos

[Cosmic_Pretzel 626]

The Ontos, officially the Rifle, Multiple 106 mm, Self-propelled, M50, was a U.S. light armored tracked anti-tank vehicle developed in the 1950s, a fast tank killer for airborne forces.

 

It mounted six M40 106 mm recoilless rifles as its main armament, which could be fired in rapid succession against single targets to guarantee a kill. It was produced in limited numbers for the U.S. Marines after the US Army lost interest in the project. The Marines consistently reported excellent results when they used the Ontos for direct fire support against infantry in numerous battles and operations during the Vietnam War. The American stock of Ontos was largely expended towards the end of the conflict and the Ontos was removed from service in 1969.

 

 

Development

The Ontos (Greek for "thing") project was created to be an air transportable tank-destroyer capable of being lifted by the cargo aircraft of the 1950s. This limited it to a weight between 10 and 20 metric tons. The Ontos also had to use the six-cylinder engine then widely used in the Army's GMC trucks. Allis-Chalmers was awarded a contract on August 12, 1955, for 297 vehicles.

 

Allis-Chalmers' first vehicle, completed in 1952, was based on the running gear of the M56 Scorpion light anti-tank vehicle. The vehicle mounted a cast steel turret with two arms holding three rifles each. This early model could traverse the turret only about 15 degrees. A second prototype used a new suspension system, new tracks, and a newer turret with about 40 degrees traverse. The vehicle could only carry eighteen rounds for the main guns inside the vehicle due to limited space. Four of the rifles also had .50-caliber coaxial spotting rifles attached, each of which fired a round with the same trajectory as the 106 mm round, and that gave off a puff of smoke on impact. The spotting rifles were used to line up the 106 mm recoilless rifles with the target. The Ontos also carried a single .30 caliber M1919A4 machine gun for anti-infantry use.

 

The vehicle was taken to the Aberdeen Proving Ground where single rifles had been tested earlier. When all six weapons were fired at once, the back blast from the firing knocked bricks out of a nearby building and knocked the rear windows out of several cars. The prototype and testing stage was completed by 1955, at which point the Army canceled its order.

 

As an anti-tank vehicle the Ontos had several problems, including a small ammunition load, a very high profile for such a small vehicle, and the need for the crew to exit the vehicle in order to reload the guns, exposing them to enemy fire. Although the Army canceled their order, the Marine Corps were desperate for any anti-tank vehicles they could get, and ordered 297. Production ran from 1955 through 1957. The Marine Corps accepted its first vehicle on 31 October 1956.

 

 

Variants and Upgrades

Several variants were also studied. The Utility Vehicle, Tracked, Infantry, T55 was a light Armored personnel carrier (APC), but only two versions of the prototype were built. It proved impractical due to the limited room inside, carrying only five infantry and forcing the driver to lie prone. A "stretched" version known as the Utility Vehicle, Tracked, Infantry, T56 was also built, and while it held a complete eight-man team, their equipment had to be carried on the outside. Neither was considered very useful.

 

In 1960 there was a brief study made to replace the Ontos's 106 mm rifles with a new 105 mm design that included a re-loading system similar to that on a revolver. This project was not accepted.

 

Another proposed upgrade was replacing the GMC engine with a newer Chrysler 361 cu in V8 engine. This upgrade was implemented and the variant was named Rifle, Multiple 106 mm, Self-propelled, M50A1. However of the 297 vehicles initially accepted by the Marines, only 176 were converted between 1963 to 1965 to this standard.

 

Service

While the M50 was designed as a tank destroyer, the NVA deployed few tanks. It was more widely used for direct fire support for the infantry in combat, a role that was never emphasized in training or doctrine. Like the Army's M113, its light armor was effective against small arms but vulnerable to mines and rocket-propelled grenades. Consequently many Ontos were deployed in static defense positions.

 

The Ontos crews liked the vehicle, and its commanders praised it. The relatively light weight of the M50s meant that they could also go where tanks got bogged down. The Ontos, with its lower ground pressure, could drag timbers up to the tanks to help get them unstuck. In one operation, the Ontos was the only tracked vehicle light enough to cross a pontoon bridge. In the Battle of Hue, Regimental Commander Colonel Stanley S. Hughes felt the Ontos was the most effective of all Marine supporting arms. Its mobility made it less vulnerable than tanks, which suffered heavy losses, while at ranges of 300 to 500 yards (270 to 460 m), its recoilless rifles could knock holes in or completely knock down walls. The appearance of an Ontos was sometimes enough to make the enemy break and run, and anecdotal accounts describe the enemy fleeing occupied buildings when an Ontos's spotting round entered a window. In Operation DeSoto, the introduction of the large CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter made possible moving a platoon 25 miles (40 km) south of Quan Ngai City carrying Ontos in slings underneath the aircraft.

 

The Ontos units were deactivated in May 1969, and some of the vehicles were handed over to an Army light infantry brigade. They used them until they ran out of spare parts, and then removed the turrets and used them as fixed fortifications. Both these and the rest of the vehicles returned from Vietnam in 1970 and were cut up for scrap, with some of the chassis being sold off as construction vehicles.

 

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Specifications

Weight:                                        8,600 kg

Length:                                        3.83 m

Width:                                          2.59 m

Height:                                         2.13 m

Crew:                                           3 (driver, gunner and loader)

Shell:                                           High Explosive Anti-Tank

                                                    High Explosive

                                                    Squash-Head

                                                    Anti-Personnel

Caliber:                                        106 mm

Muzzle velocity:                            500 m/s

Effective firing range:                   2,750 m

Maximum firing range:                  7,700 m

Main armament:                           6 × M40 recoilless rifles

Secondary armament:                  1 × .30-caliber machine gun

Engine:                                        GM 6-cyl 302 in³

                                                    145 hp

Operational range:                      185 km

Speed:                                         48 km/h

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Open for discussion  :salute: 

[alpkerem 241]

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/200737-m50-ontos/

[Cosmic_Pretzel 626]

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/200737-m50-ontos/

Oh, I didn't notice. Does this mean I have to kindly ask a Dev to remove this thread?

[alpkerem 241]

Oh, I didn't notice. Does this mean I have to kindly ask a Dev to remove this thread?

 

I guess they'll be merged or something. Honestly I have no clue what will happen :P

[TheMadHighElf 416]

OP :facepalm: :Ds

[Ruslan_DR 686]

I play germans and even I want this. Make it happen so i can club it with a maus.

[P8triot 3,894]

Are recoiless rifles allowed in game? I can't remember where but I thought recoiless weren't. I hope I'm wrong because that looks like one crazy tank to play! Edited September 20, 2015 by P8triot

[ItsCalledSoccer 96]

+1

[ustinodj 5,952]

I think this was already confirmed next to the M56 ;)

[AJAtcho 623]

so any luck putting this thing in game? :dntknw:

[Sirchby 3,711]

They're keeping this as classified yet, as far as I know in Q&A.

 

They called for additional AFV with recoilless gun for U.S. tech tree in upcoming patches, something about either M50 Ontos and/or M56 Scorpion.

Edited December 23, 2015 by BravoBigBooms

[_Sync 1,028]

+1 a good end TD for the U.S.

[KontaKT 1,824]

Wich shells would it use in game ?

[Sirchby 3,711]

Of course HEAT-FS, if not HESH.

 

Primarily using HE-based shell, since it comes from an M40 Recoilless Rifle

[ganJ 2,692]

+6, 1 for each gun
 

[KontaKT 1,824]

On 07/09/2016 at 2:03 PM, BravoBigBooms said:

Of course HEAT-FS, if not HESH.

 

Primarily using HE-based shell, since it comes from an M40 Recoilless Rifle

 

There was only one type of HEAT-FS for this tank ?

[Mercedes4321 4,695]

4 hours ago, Fighter117 said:

 

There was only one type of HEAT-FS for this tank ?

The Americans only really used the base version of its HEAT shells, which could still penetrate around 400mm if I remember correctly. The insane rounds with 700mm of penetration came from foreign countries and I don't know if any American M50s used those. There was a HEP round developed for it but I don't know its performance.

[KontaKT 1,824]

2 hours ago, Mercedes4321 said:

The Americans only really used the base version of its HEAT shells, which could still penetrate around 400mm if I remember correctly. The insane rounds with 700mm of penetration came from foreign countries and I don't know if any American M50s used those. There was a HEP round developed for it but I don't know its performance.

 

Thanks mate.

So in game we would more likely see it with HEAT piercing 400 mm. 

I was asking as if It could only shoot HEAT shells piercing 700 mm I would have voted "no". But I voted "yes".

[Thiky 2,162]

+1 

 

 

[Querulous1 3,276]

I think this is inevitable in a year or so

[Thug Shaker Actual 225]

Its so iconic how could it not be added? +1

[Jan_Gustl_WT 1,746]

Its looks so stupid thats hurt Check!

Its american Check!

Its spraying with freedom check!

 i want it in the game +1

[Alix451 12]

+1 imagine being able to sustain fire by shooting each of them off slowly! also i think it is an important part of american armor and it deserves to be added into the game

[Conraire 5,723]

Here's some stuff from manuals about the gun and ammo.  And some hunnicutt's datasheets.

 

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