Tanks/Vehicles T14 Heavy/Assault Tank

[Quirkless 91]

EDIT: redoing the entire thing because I made this thread two years ago

 

Hello everybody! I am here today to discuss the possibility of a low tier American Heavy Tank - The T14 Heavy Assault Tank. I believe this tank should be a premium at anywhere from 3.7-4.3, as it should be able to hold its own against other tanks at the tier, while they still have a fair chance of fighting it.

Background:

The Assault Tank T14 was a joint project between the United States and the United Kingdom. The T14 tank was supposed to be a design that was to be shared by both countries to give a heavy infantry tank for both countries. A pilot model was not delivered to the UK by 1944 by which time the British Churchill tank had been in service for two years and greatly improved over its initial model. The T14 project never came to fruition. US efforts working on a similarly well-armoured tank but with a higher speed for use other than in infantry support led to the T20 Medium Tank.

 

In 1941, the head of the United States Ordnance Department travelled to Britain to learn of their experience, ideas and requirements for the future. Among the discussion was the possibility of designing a well-armed and armoured combat vehicle, one that was stronger than the British Churchill infantry tank then in production. The tank design would have a British QF 6-pounder (57 mm) or a US 75mm gun and share many parts with the M4 Sherman; they had the same armour thickness, but with armour sloping at extreme angles, effective armour on the T14 was greatly increased to 101mm.

 

The British initially ordered 8,500 in 1942 following which detail design work started. Testing of the pilot model which was completed in 1944 showed the vehicle to be much too heavy for practical use. By this time, the British Army was satisfied with the Churchill and its cruiser tank designs and further production of the T14 was halted. Only two were built; one tested in the US and the other sent to Britain. The example sent to Britain survives in The Tank Museum, Bovington. The British had developed the Heavy Assault Tank A33 "Excelsior" design to the same specification as the T14 but this did not go into service either.

 

Stats and Specifications:

Weight: 47 tons

Length: 6.19 m (20 ft 4 in)

Width: 3.17 m (10 ft 5 in)

Height: 2.99 m (9 ft 10 in)

Crew: 5 (Commander, gunner, loader, driver, co-driver)

Armor: 133mm Main armament 75mm M3 Gun: 50 rounds

Secondary armament: .50 M2 Browning machine gun (12.7mm)

2x .30 M1919 Browning machine gun (7.62mm) 9,000 rounds

Engine: Ford GAZ V8 520 hp (390 kW)

Power/weight: 12.86 hp/ton

Suspension: VVSS

Operational range: 100 mi (161 km)

Speed: 28 km/h (17 mph)

I hope you consider!

 

Here you can find a gallery of pictures of the T14 at Bovington.

http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/t14.htm

 

You can find a full report on the tank here (Thanks to zuegma):

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/b965290.pdf

 

Sorces:

http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/tanks/tanks-t/39138/view/t14_assault_gun/

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=777

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T14_Heavy_Tank

Edited December 12, 2016 by ThatCoolGuy

[leroyonly 4,310]

open for discussion

[Gahlok12 457]

You have my support I like heavy tanks

[Tchar 952]

 

[zuegma 1,546]

I was going to suggest this myself as I was surprised it hasn't been already.

 

It would make a great premium, almost like a KV-1E.

 

Also to add to your post here is the full report on the T14: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/b965290.pdf

[Whelmy 1,970]

 

 

Much more

https://imgur.com/a/HyM64

[SirDandyCatfish 934]

I don't like the idea of it being in the game because it wasn't a mass-production tank, and it's 75mm gun can't penetrate its own armor when its angled.

[Jevrian 183]

I don't like the idea of it being in the game because it wasn't a mass-production tank, and it's 75mm gun can't penetrate its own armor when its angled.

well we already have the Tiger P, T32, and the Panther 2, none of which were mass-production tanks, in game.

[MockingClone 3,061]

I support it.

[Private_Public 1,042]

it's 75mm gun can't penetrate its own armor when its angled.

The KV-1E's 76.2mm gun can't penetrate a regular KV at anything less than point blank range and even then it's iffy, KV-1E vs KV-1E and all they can do is face hug. And yet I still love the KV-1E.

 

Besides, side and rear armour is comparable to a T-34, only a little thicker at about the same slope, turret front at ~75mm (Cos screw the Imperial system yo, metric 4 lyfe) is the same as a KV-1 and upper frontal armour is thinner than that of a Sherman but at a steeper angle. And that MG port looks like a massive weakspot.

 

So yea, as a rank 2 premium this would have my support

[DePriest 180]

I was actually shocked that this wasn't already in as  a premium.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5HOt0ZOcYk

[ustinodj 5,952]

I was actually shocked that this wasn't already in as a premium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5HOt0ZOcYk

The US GF premium tree is clearly missing :Ps
Anyway, why not? Premium: it does not have to be full production

[Chadfee 12]

An american tank that wouldn't be terribly op...yes please

[AngelEight 4,163]

^ Gaijong's glorious undertiering system.

[Major_Shaker 2,633]

well we already have the Tiger P, T32, and the Panther 2, none of which were mass-production tanks, in game.

 

Tiger P saw combat in Kursk. Most of Tiger P chasis was used on Fredinands/Elephants. That tank is more then a prototype. Panther 2 and T32 are pure nonsense in this game. I have never supported such vehicles and Im not a fan of blueprints tanks/planes, prototypes in general. Because we have prototypes that I or other players did not have a chance to support or we were not ask if we want them I will not support adding more of such.

 

So it is no from me.

[Kempston 342]

YES. Have as a British Premium though as it was a export tank for them. This tank existed and only didn't enter service because better tanks came along so I would like to see this tank in game.

[ustinodj 5,952]

YES. Have as a British Premium though as it was a export tank for them. This tank existed and only didn't enter service because better tanks came along so I would like to see this tank in game.

The A33 was the more British equivalent

[BoBaH_u3_5A 4,119]

no, wasnt in service

[Kempston 342]

The A33 was the more British equivalent

Suppose that could be the British equivalent, But I definately recall the British were to share usage of the T14 and involved in the design and development. Though now, the Americans could keep the T14 and the British could preferably have the A33 'Excelsior'.

[SuperTechmarine 1,575]

Yiss Primium plz.

[HyJetV 3,063]

I saw T14 and immediately thought of this 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLFSQWkES0 

[Quirkless 91]

I saw T14 and immediately thought of this 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLFSQWkES0 

Don't give Gaijin ideas o:

[Heinkel280 641]

Looks great +1  :salute:

 

but next time please don't just copy and paste directly from Wikipedia...

Edited January 3, 2015 by Heinkel280

[Kempston 342]

no, wasnt in service

Although it was close, in fact 8,500 were ordered by the British alone. Only the tank was too heavy to transport in mass and thus was seen impracticable for use.

[Quirkless 91]

Looks great +1  :salute:

 

but next time please don't just copy and paste directly from Wikipedia...

 

Not all of it is from wikipedia o3o

 

most of it is though :P

Edited January 3, 2015 by ThatCoolGuy