tanks/vehicles US M728 CEV (Combat Engineer Vehicle)

[Blaser93 418]

The M728 combat engineer vehicle is a military engineering vehicle based on an M60a1 Patton main battle tank chassis with a hydraulically operated dozer blade mounted on the front, thus effectively functioning as an armored bulldozer, plus an A-frame crane boom hinged on either side of the turret and a winch. 291 were built.

 

Based on the chassis of the M60 Patton tank, the armament was changed from using the 105mm M68 rifled tank gun used on the standard M60/A1/A3, to a 165mm M135 short-barrelled demolition gun with 30 rounds of HEP (high explosive, plastic) ammunition. The M135 is a license-built copy of the 165 mm L9A1 gun that was used on the British Army's FV4003 Centurion Mk.5 AVRE (armoured vehicle Royal Engineers) tank. Depending on the usage, the gun can be depressed and elevated against targets up to an effective range of 925 metres (1,012 yd). The gun's primary purpose is for clearing defensive fixtures and obstacles, such as walls, fences, roadblocks and bunkers, or for destroying buildings and is generally not meant to be for use in anti-personnel or anti-tank warfare.

 

The main gun has a coaxial 7.62×51mm NATO M240 machine gun, with 2,000 rounds of 7.62mm ammunition. In addition, a .50 caliber M85 machine gun is mounted in the commander's cupola; this has 600 rounds of ammunition. As an alternative to the mounted dozerblade, the vehicle can be equipped with a mine clearing rake for clearing land mines. In total, 291 M728 CEVs were produced.

 

It was first deployed in 1965 during the Vietnam War. It was also used in the Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm phases of the 1991 Gulf War.

 

During Operation Desert Storm, the M728 CEV was unable to keep up with the M1A1 Abrams in the armored formations and spearheads, due to the limits of the M60 chassis and power train. Many maneuver units simply left the M728 CEV behind rather than let it slow their advance. Such was also the case with the mine rake-equipped M728 CEVs. As originally anticipated, the commanders in the field planned for their use as a part of the sand berm breaching operation, but decided to leave them behind once they began the pursuit and exploitation phase of the operation. In the post-war assessment, many armored unit commanders were in agreement that the engineers needed an M1 Abrams based chassis for heavy breaching and gap crossing equipment to keep pace with the Abrams. As a result of this, the M728 was no longer used by active duty units from 2000 onward (although it still is in use by the army national guard and reserve). Current users include Saudi Arabia and Singapore.

 

Some M728s were acquired for use by the United States Department of Justice's FBI and ATF SWAT teams to conduct potentially dangerous operations. In particular, it has become associated with the 1993 Siege of Waco, Texas, due to it being caught in dramatic fashion on video during the siege.

 

Specifications:

 

• Weight: 48.3 tonnes
• Length: 8.83 metres (29 ft)
• Width: 3.66 m (12 ft)
• Height: 3.3 m (10 ft 10 in)
• Crew: 4 (commander, gunner, loader, driver)
• Armor: 13–143 millimetres (0.51–5.63 in)
• Engine: Continental (now General Dynamics) AVDS-1790-2DR V12, air-cooled twin-turbo diesel engine, 750 horsepower (560 kW)
• Power/Weight: 14.1 hp/t
• Transmission: CD-850-6A 2 speeds forward, 1 reverse
• Suspension: Torsion bar suspension
• Speed: 48 km/h (30 mph)

 

Armament:

 

• Main Armament: 1× 165mm M135 (30 rounds)
• Secondary Armament: Coaxial machine gun:1× 7.62mm M240 machine gun (2,000 rounds), Commander cupola: 1× 12.7mm M85 machine gun (600 rounds)

[CokeSpray 7,274]

Open for discussion.

[Josh_Yong 328]

gib pls

[kissHUN 73]

brummbar bigger brother?  ohh yes plz!

[Nope 10,634]

literally m60 avre

[ValkyrieLitewing 1,659]

Inb4 if we actually get it, it only gets a 152mm and no armor.

On a serious note I can't really see this being very practical but still +1 because it would be a tier 5 KV-2 durp tank

[Mercedes4321 4,695]

4 hours ago, HipTurtle said:

Inb4 if we actually get it, it only gets a 152mm and no armor.

On a serious note I can't really see this being very practical but still +1 because it would be a tier 5 KV-2 durp tank

*165mm with about 30 pounds of explosives in each shell to be precise, much more than the KV-2. Its a HESH slinging monster that uses a licensed copy of the British L9.

Edited August 28, 2016 by Mercedes4321

[Daddo2 328]

If Brits get AVRE vehicles, then this can also come.

[_23nick123 53]

+1, but some pictures of the crane apparatus on the back of the turret would be neat. also, what @Daddo2 said about it, id like more AVRE vehicles in general.

[Blaser93 418]

49 minutes ago, _23nick123 said:

+1, but some pictures of the crane apparatus on the back of the turret would be neat. also, what @Daddo2 said about it, id like more AVRE vehicles in general.

Here you go one picture of the rear and one for the crane deployed

[_23nick123 53]

Just now, Blaser93 said:

Here you go one picture of the rear and one for the crane deployed

thanks! it looks very cool indeed, id love to have it ingame.

[Blaser93 418]

If this is added with both the dozer blade and crane, I think it will add some interesting play styles since the dozer blade is a few extra millimetres of armor protecting the lower glacis, could be raised to protect a slightly higher point and can make for a good ramming tool. Since this is an engineer vehicle I think when it helps repair a friend tank or itself it can confer a large boost to the repair time and the winch can make it more effective at towing vehicles. 

Edited August 28, 2016 by Blaser93

[Stofferberry 1,629]

It would be useful in battle if WT stopped having cap zones and had beach landings, bunker busting, and assaults. This would be more realistic and fun as well as make these tanks useful.

[ItsCalledSoccer 96]

+1

[_Sync 1,028]

+1, tier V KV-2 and it can help friendly vehicles.

[_23nick123 53]

4 hours ago, _Sync said:

+1, tier V KV-2 and it can help friendly vehicles.

im not sure the towing crane would/could be implemented as a movable thing. the dozer on the front though, could be additional armor. 

what BR do you think it would be? probably like, 6.7 or 6.0 IMO. sure it may have good armor for its BR but the gun would have long reload time, and low shell velocity, so it would be hard to shoot far away targets accurately.

[Josh_Yong 328]

9 hours ago, _23nick123 said:

im not sure the towing crane would/could be implemented as a movable thing. the dozer on the front though, could be additional armor. 

what BR do you think it would be? probably like, 6.7 or 6.0 IMO. sure it may have good armor for its BR but the gun would have long reload time, and low shell velocity, so it would be hard to shoot far away targets accurately.

I'd like the Br of 6.7 or 6.0 but honestly i think the reload time should be the same as the Brummbär 

[Daddo2 328]

11 hours ago, _23nick123 said:

im not sure the towing crane would/could be implemented as a movable thing. the dozer on the front though, could be additional armor. 

what BR do you think it would be? probably like, 6.7 or 6.0 IMO. sure it may have good armor for its BR but the gun would have long reload time, and low shell velocity, so it would be hard to shoot far away targets accurately.

It would have a long reload, but it would also be a one-shot wonder of a tank due to its HESH capabilities. It would be perfectly suited for top BR.

[Ava_Winters 179]

L9 165mm shell. 

 

 

Big.

[_23nick123 53]

9 hours ago, Josh_Yong said:

I'd like the Br of 6.7 or 6.0 but honestly i think the reload time should be the same as the Brummbär 

 

its a 165mm shell compared to 150, so maybe a bit longer.

 

7 hours ago, Daddo2 said:

It would have a long reload, but it would also be a one-shot wonder of a tank due to its HESH capabilities. It would be perfectly suited for top BR.

 

well, then again, the kv-2 can also 1 shot many things due too its 152mm doomsday cannon, and this vehicle is better- faster speed, more armor, etc. so i think a 6.0 too 6.7 BR would be alright, because top tier vehicles can also oneshot other vehicles reliably, too, and not as long a reload time (granted, they are not as reliable at 1 shoting things, as the 152mm of a kv-2 is or what the 165mm l9 gun would probably be like).

[ganJ 2,692]

[Daddo2 328]

1 hour ago, _23nick123 said:

well, then again, the kv-2 can also 1 shot many things due too its 152mm doomsday cannon, and this vehicle is better- faster speed, more armor, etc. so i think a 6.0 too 6.7 BR would be alright, because top tier vehicles can also oneshot other vehicles reliably, too, and not as long a reload time (granted, they are not as reliable at 1 shoting things, as the 152mm of a kv-2 is or what the 165mm l9 gun would probably be like).

You can't put M60A1 with one-shot killing cannon anywhere lower than the M60A1 is. At least not with current BR compression. On the BR that you're suggesting it would be indestructible.

 

KV-2 has the level of armour of the heavy tank that is 0.6 BR lower (RB) and you want this to have the BR of MBT that is 2.0-1.3 higher? Really?

[_23nick123 53]

Just now, Daddo2 said:

You can't put M60A1 with one-shot killing cannon anywhere lower than the M60A1 is. At least not with current BR compression. On the BR that you're suggesting it would be indestructible.

 

KV-2 has the level of armour of the heavy tank that is 0.6 BR lower (RB) and you want this to have the BR of MBT that is 2.0-1.3 higher? Really?

yeah, your right- a BR of 7.0 would be better.

[Daddo2 328]

11 minutes ago, _23nick123 said:

yeah, your right- a BR of 7.0 would be better.

Well, just imagine how powerful it would be on urban maps.

[_23nick123 53]

Just now, Daddo2 said:

Well, just imagine how powerful it would be on urban maps.

well, yeah, it could be a bit powerful, but then again, think about how not-powerful it will be on open maps.