aircraft/loadouts Curtiss Hawk III

[The_Strafer 131]

Hello guys, hope your having a good day and today I would like to suggest the Curtiss Hawk III, an export version of the BF2C Goshawk. This is a relevant aircraft that should be in War Thunder. History on the plane:

 

 

The Curtiss Hawk III was the export version of the US Navy's Curtiss BF2C-1, but without the metal wing structure that caused such problems for the Navy. The Hawk III was thus similar to the Hawk II, which was based on the F11C-2, but with the manually retractable undercarriage developed on the XF11C-3 and installed on the BF2C-1 (originally ordered as the F11C-3).

The Navy's BF2C-1 used a new metal framed wing, which suffered from serious vibration problems. The Hawk III used a standard wooden wing, with spruce beams and ribs and a plywood web, and avoided these problems. It was powered by a Wright Cyclone which provided the same power as on the Hawk II but at an higher altitude.

 

The Hawk III sold in larger numbers than the Hawk II but to fewer customers. Turkey bought one in April 1935. Twenty four went to Thailand from August 1935. Argentine bought ten in May-June 1936. The biggest customer was China, which bought 102 aircraft, delivered between March 1936 and June 1938. Of these aircraft ninety were delivered as kits and completed at the Central Aircraft manufacturing Company (CAMCO) at Hangchow. The Hawk III saw combat in Thailand and China, in both cases alongside the Hawk II.

 

In 1940 Thailand had four fighter squadrons equipped with Hawk IIIs. These aircraft were used in two short conflicts. The first came late in 1940 after a short border war broke out between Thailand and the French colony in Indochina. During this conflict they were used as dive-bombers, interceptors and as escort fighters.

The second conflict was much shorter. On 7 December 1941 the Japanese invaded Thailand. The Hawks were used against them, but a ceasefire was agreed later on the same day and the fighting stopped.

 

The Hawk saw most combat during the Sino-Japanese War. In 1937 the Hawk III was used by three reconnaissance squadrons at Sian and one at Nanking. Both the Hawk III and the earlier  Hawk II saw combat around Shanghai, and performed quite well against the Japanese biplane fighters in use at the start of the war. Once the monoplane Mitsubishi A5M entered combat the Hawk were quickly outclassed. They were soon replaced by the Polikarpov  I-15, I-152 and I-153 and were transferred to training units.

 

 

Specifications

 

Crew: one

Length: 23 ft 6.25 in (7.17 m)

Wingspan: 31 ft 6 in (9.6 m)

Height: 9 ft 11.5 in (3.03 m)

Wing area: 262 ft² (24.34 m²)

Empty weight: 3,326 lb (1,509 kg)

Max. takeoff weight: 4,552 lb (2,065 kg)

Powerplant: 1 × Wright R-1820-04 "Cyclone" air-cooled radial engine, 770 hp (574 kW)

 

 

Maximum speed: 225 mph (362 km/h)

Cruise speed: 157 mph (253 km/h)

Range: 725 mi (1,167 km)

Service ceiling: 27,000 ft (8,230 m)

Rate of climb: 2,150 ft/min (655 m/min)

 

Armament: two .3in machine guns and four 100Ib bombs

 

Pictures:

 

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This aircraft would most likely be a premium when the International Tech tree comes. Or it could be an American event/gift which could work since the LVT ZIS-2 is a Chinese modified version of the LVT and that is an American Gift/Event vehicle. But that's just my thoughts. If you have different thoughts, please say so in the comments.

 

That's it from me. See you later!  

 

 

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Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_BF2C_Goshawk

http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_curtiss_hawk_III.html

 

Edited January 22, 2017 by The_Strafer
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[CokeSpray 7,273]

Open for discussion.

However, you current suggestion is incomplete. As it stands it's missing the listing of sources you have used to create this suggestion. Please add these within 48 hours in accordance to the rules of usage of historical sources, otherwise the topic will be closed.

[Saltzer 2,454]

14 minutes ago, CokeSpray said:

However, you current suggestion is incomplete. As it stands it's missing the listing of sources you have used to create this suggestion. Please add these within 48 hours in accordance to the rules of usage of historical sources, otherwise the topic will be closed.

I'm not here to tell you how to do your job, but seeing as the plane is already "done", just not available for non-Chinese players, I think those requirements would be rather superfluous.

 

 

[The_Strafer 131]

37 minutes ago, CokeSpray said:

Open for discussion.

However, you current suggestion is incomplete. As it stands it's missing the listing of sources you have used to create this suggestion. Please add these within 48 hours in accordance to the rules of usage of historical sources, otherwise the topic will be closed.

Added them. Completely forgot sorry.

[CokeSpray 7,273]

51 minutes ago, Saltzer said:

I'm not here to tell you how to do your job, but seeing as the plane is already "done", just not available for non-Chinese players, I think those requirements would be rather superfluous.

 

 

Actually, the aircraft in question is unavailable even for Chinese players as can be seen in their Tech tree below;

[The_Strafer 131]

1 hour ago, CokeSpray said:

Actually, the aircraft in question is unavailable even for Chinese players as can be seen in their Tech tree below;

What there's a Chinese Tech tree? Well I learned something today...

[IDreamOfShadows 33]

The Hawk 3, is basically an American Gladiator so, Yes Why Not. 

[RedPanda2792 19]

I don't know if you need these screenshots now.(｀・ω・´)

 

Sorry about low resolution of the pictures. (It says the maximum capacity of files I can upload is 1.13 MB)

 

[Borotovas 4,500]

I’m going to have to give this a no. I don’t support the international tech tree, and we don’t need any Chinese planes. The Chinese tech tree is a failure in that it does not have enough of its own unique vehicles.

[Shepard_FR 545]

Yes, this plane would be great, but just give it to the US tech tree... Please.

[Milocat 4,854]

Cool plane.  I would definitely support it if a Chinese tree gets added. 

 

I'd also like to see the non-export version added to the U.S. tree.

[Shad0wChaser 33]

Since we're now confirmed to be getting a Chinese tech tree in 1.91, I'm chomping at the bit for this plane to appear.

[The_Strafer 131]

Well we did it. Hawk confirmed to come in the next patch.

 

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

51 minutes ago, The_Strafer said:

Well we did it. Hawk confirmed to come in the next patch.

 

 

For China, though to be fair, the US never used this particular version of the aircraft.

[seadogpirate@psn 888]

for the us and china trees +1

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

Think it's safe to say that this can be moved to "implemented"

[CokeSpray 7,273]

Moved to Implemented suggestions.