aircraft/loadouts Swordfish MKII and Swordfish MKIV

[GandhiKhan 187]

I know there is another post of this, that was from my old account I plan on never using again, there is some info in it I'd like to retain, and new info I'd like to add!

 

This is the Swordfish MKII and Swordfish MKIV!

 

The Swordfish MKII: This is your standard run of the mill Swordfish being able to carry 8 rockets(four for each wing) and a Pegasus 30 engine, providing more power. This variant was produced starting in 1943 carried out until it was finished being produced in August 18, 1944, but still remained in service until the end of the war. The MKII was the variant that was the most produced, making 1,080 MKII Swordfish. The MKI Swordfish we all love, sits at a lovely 1.0br, I propose the MKII Swordfish to be in a dropbox underneath it, where it's not necessary to research it, but for all the fans of the Swordfish (Like me!) We can have this wonderful plane! The BR for the MKII I believe would be a 1.3, It's still the same Swordfish, but it has rockets and a new engine!

 

The Swordfish MKIV: A very late variant created in end of the war, are retrofitted MKII Swordfish, (still with the rockets!) and has an enclosed cockpit and retains the Pegasus 30 engine. The MKIV has an unknown amount of variants made, but real life variants are still in existence. The cockpit was fitted for colder climates and as such most went to the RCAF. (Royal Canadian Air Force) The cockpit is derived from the Gloster Gladiator. The Swordfish drop box proposal I have is to have the MKI Swordfish on top, being the one you would have to research first, then the MKII at a br of 1.3, and then the MKIV sitting nice and pretty at 1.5 or 1.7. We all know of the Swordfish being the everyman's and everywoman's Po-2 that's British and flies considerably faster, so let's get this thing more love! 

 

In light of the new Italian tree being released, I did some research on Italian captured Swordfish, and found out that numerous Swordfish were captured, one to particularly talk about is the one Swordfish K8422 that was shot down during a raid on a Maritza airfield, it was recovered by the Italians and went testing and was repaired using parts from another captured Swordfish where it was kept serviceable as an Italian flown Swordfish, with the roundels, however, it has been particularly difficult to locate real images of the Swordfish in Italian roundels, however there have been speculations how it would have looked, and I would be glad to see any images any of you would come up with! I think a captured Italian Swordfish would make a great tier 1 premium, price I would assume being 400 ge, B-10B level of pricing. The particular model would be the MKII to see it as a fair competitor, but if my suggestion for the MKII and IV don't get passed, it could easily be a MKI without much issue. 

 

Now realizing that Naval battles are closer than ever, I suggest also that the Swordfish (every modification) now has depth charges, up to 1,500lbs worth, however it would only carry 4 of them. It would be very useful against enemy ships if they got close enough in tier 1 naval battles. But we know that the Swordfish survived throughout the entire war fighting throughout, so it could fight the higher tiers!

 

Stat card comparing the MKI Swordfish and MKII Swordfish below.

(Courtesy of http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/aircraft/swordfish.htm )

Aircraft Type: Fairey Swordfish Mark: Fairey Swordfish Mk I (1940), II, III Carrier borne, MAC and shore based torpedo bomber (Mk.II) Primary Role: Torpedo bomber/Maritime/Anti-submarine patrol aircraft  First Flight:  Prototype TSR II 17 April 1934 Date operating with FAA squadrons: Entered Service: July 1936-operational after 1945 Manufacturer: Fairey,  Blackburn Engine: 690 hp Bristol Pegasus IIIM (MK.I) or Pegasus XXX (MK.II) engine  Wing Span: Length: Height: Wing Area:  Mk I  Wingspan: 13.87 m Length: 10.87 m Mk II  Wingspan: 13.92m Length: 11.22m Wing Area: 56,39 m2 Empty Weight: Max.Weight: Weight Mk I: 3505 kg Mk II Max Wt: 3406 kg Speed:  Ceiling:  Range: Mk I  Max. speed: 246 km/h  Ceiling: 5900 m Range: 1700 km Mk II Max Speed: 222 km/h  Ceiling: 3260 m Range: 1658 km Armament: Mk I 3x227kg bombs or 730kg torpedo  2x7.69mm guns  Mk II 2 7,7 mm mg. , up to 680 kg of bombs or 1 torpedo.  One fixed Browing machine gun forward and one Lewis 'K' gun rear. One 18" 1,610 lb torpedo or one 1,500 lb mine below the fuselage. Two 250 lb bombs below the wings or two 500 lb bombs undeer the wings. MK.II could carry eight 60 lb rockets below the wings

Specification

MODEL	Swordfish Mk II
CREW	2-3
ENGINE	1 x Bristol Pegasus XXX, 559kW
WEIGHTS
Take-off weight	3406 kg	7509 lb
Empty weight	2132 kg	4700 lb
DIMENSIONS
Wingspan	13.87 m	46 ft 6 in
Length	10.87 m	36 ft 8 in
Height	3.76 m	12 ft 4 in
Wing area	56.39 m2	606.98 sq ft
PERFORMANCE
Max. speed	222 km/h	138 mph
Cruise speed	193 km/h	120 mph
Ceiling	3260 m	10700 ft
Range	1658 km	1030 miles
ARMAMENT	2 x 7.7mm machine-guns, 1 x 730kg torpedo or 680kg of bombs

Sources   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairey_Swordfish http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/aircraft/swordfish.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Pegasus http://www.aviation-history.com/fairey/swordfish.html http://www.ww2warbirds.net/ww2htmls/fairswordf.html http://20thcenturyaviationmagazine.com/military-aviation-magazine/a-fairey-swordfish-tale-on-the-anniversary-of-the-pearl-harbor-attack/ http://military.wikia.com/wiki/Fairey_Swordfish ^This source has the information located down under operators^

 

 

These next images are all I could find of Swordfish in Italian markings, if someone would please if they have any real images of the Italian marked Swordfish PLEASE comment with them below! It will be greatly appreciated!

 

Edited August 31, 2017 by GandhiKhan
Added suggestion for depth charges for use in Naval Battles

[SAUBER_KH7 3,326]

Open for Discussion.

[TheElite96 5,839]

Still supporting, +1!

[Delta_48 471]

+1..... again

[_EQUAI_ 356]

Yeah +1

[*face_guy_epic 314]

+1 !!  More biplanes needed!

[GandhiKhan 187]

The MKIV Swordfish DOES have a rear turret, in the picture's it is hidden, the glass canopy covering the gunner spot slides up under the canopy and allows for more protection to the gunner, which should really be helpful when flying and fending off pesky He 112's and CR.42s! (amongst other planes)

Edited April 3, 2017 by GandhiKhan
Revised my facts on the Swordfish MKIV regarding the rear turret.

[GandhiKhan 187]

Found some images of a whole bunch of MKIV Swordfish, I am currently looking for good quality images of a MKIV, if you have one or know of one, let me know! 

Images are courtesy of http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/57/A-School-of-Swordfish--No-1-Naval-Air-Gunners-School-Yarmouth.aspx

Edited April 4, 2017 by GandhiKhan

[GandhiKhan 187]

Thinking now about how the MKIV would be implemented, I would rather suggest the MKIV be placed in a folder with the MKII with the MKII at a BR of 1.3 and the MKIV being placed at 1.3 again.

[Thug Shaker Actual 225]

+1

[oXoP4NDEMiCZoXo 451]

Yes the Swordfish is a fantastic torp bomber also seen one of these fly in real life also hardly any modeling needs doing in terms of 3D & flight models wheels & hooks is about it, would love to see

these added also these should be put maybe under the navy line instead of the regular one but as they are dive bombers they might end up on the same line as the other. +1 

[GandhiKhan 187]

5 hours ago, oXoP4NDEMiCZoXo said:

Yes the Swordfish is a fantastic torp bomber also seen one of these fly in real life also hardly any modeling needs doing in terms of 3D & flight models wheels & hooks is about it, would love to see

these added also these should be put maybe under the navy line instead of the regular one but as they are dive bombers they might end up on the same line as the other. +1 

That is a pretty good idea! The issue with the Navy line as I see it, is that none of those aircraft are particularly large, save for the Firebrand and Firefly's. So I could definetly see it in either the Navy line or the regular bomber line! Thank you for your support!

[GandhiKhan 187]

 

 

 

 

Found some more sweet pictures of the MKII and the rockets it used! The last picture shows the engine the MKII used.

[oXoP4NDEMiCZoXo 451]

19 hours ago, GandhiKhan said:

Found some more sweet pictures of the MKII and the rockets it used! The last picture shows the engine the MKII used.

 

 

Very nice! +1

[GandhiKhan 187]

More pictures of the Fantasy Of Flight's Swordfish MKIV, with a more upclose rear picture of the canopy and a frontal view.

[milintarctrooper 69]

+1

 

[Dan_RAFBC 1,201]

The Mk.II and Mk.IV would fit very nicely in a folder with the Mk.I, fully supported by me.

[kingoftigertank 73]

interesting very much needed as gives more choice.

[Milocat 4,857]

More swordfish?  

Yes please!  +1.  

 

[AdamDizzy 62]

I support this 100%.  I would also like to suggest the Float variant of the swordfish to be added as well, or maybe even make it a modification that can be switched on or off, affecting the speed by around 7-9 mph, similar to how different bombloads affect the speed of planes.  Its one of the things im hoping to propose that about the OS2U Kingfishers, as they too had wheeled versions that served operationally.  

+1

 

[MonkeyBussiness 1,228]

+1 for rockets on swordfish , great addition for naval battle

[CokeSpray 7,274]

Suggestion passed to the developers for consideration.