Pz_KpfW 110 Report post Posted September 16, 2017 In the F1M2 and D3A1 there are dive bombing sights in cockpit view that you can look through using zoom. How do you use them to aim bombs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTommi 55 Report post Posted September 19, 2017 I don't think the scope is for dive bombing but rather for the MGs of the planes. It's been a while since I have flown these planes. The grid in the sight presumably is for adjusting aim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pz_KpfW 110 Report post Posted September 20, 2017 Only the dive bombers have them though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTommi 55 Report post Posted September 22, 2017 I don't know if they can be used to aim bombs. At least since it is a limited field of view through the scope I assume a dive has to be very steep to see the target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blastedryan 967 Report post Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, MrTommi said: I assume a dive has to be very steep to see the target. The theory behind dive bombing is to attack as close to 90degrees as possible to ensure the bomb goes straight down. It's definitely a bombing scope since a normal gun scope would only need the circle in the center. I think the numbers are used to measure distance like in tank scopes. Edited September 22, 2017 by blastedryan clarification 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Technical Moderator Rapitor 10,702 Report post Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, blastedryan said: Dive bombers attacked as close to 90degrees as possible to ensure the bomb goes straight down Citation needed. US training and German training mention dives from 50 to 70°, not vertical dive. Vertical diving can result on the bomb going through your propeller (and destroying it) because you have airbrakes and bombs don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blastedryan 967 Report post Posted September 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rapitor said: Citation needed. US training and German training mention dives from 50 to 70°, not vertical dive. Vertical diving can result on the bomb going through your propeller (and destroying it) because you have airbrakes and bombs doesn't. I was generalizing the concept. They obviously wouldn't do vertical dives since the bombs need to fall away from the plane. Not to mention the possibility of accidentally going '91degrees' and having the bomb fall towards the plane. Heck, if they were doing vertical dives they wouldn't need a complicated bombing sight just a level. Edited September 22, 2017 by blastedryan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tester188@psn 1,413 Report post Posted September 22, 2017 One division is set so that when the sea level is seen with a dropping altitude of 650 m and a descent angle of 60 degrees, the interval is 10 m each. Dive bombing is basically 60 degrees, in the Japanese Navy. D3A dive to USS Hornet. ( Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands on 26 October 1942. ) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTommi 55 Report post Posted September 24, 2017 Then the question still remains, how to use them properly? I took a spin in test flight. I tried to match 3rd person bomb indicator with the scope sight. Even in steep dives the target was just on the edge of the scope though there is a bit of delay when I cycle perspective from 3rd person to scope. I was looking for more planes with scopes, I remembered them on the HS-129, a dedicated ground attack plane with heavy guns and I found them on the F3F. It is only with the japanese that scopes can be found on their dive bombers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pz_KpfW 110 Report post Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) On 9/22/2017 at 11:42 PM, *tester188 said: One division is set so that when the sea level is seen with a dropping altitude of 650 m and a descent angle of 60 degrees, the interval is 10 m each. Dive bombing is basically 60 degrees, in the Japanese Navy. Does that mean that in a 60 degree dive, releasing the bombs at 650m, they will hit in the centre of the bomb sight? How do you measure the angle of dive? The interval is 10m in which way? Horizontal distance to the target? Or 10m in height above the target? Why is there a bold/darker line running through the number 6s and makinq a square? Edited October 2, 2017 by Pz_KpfW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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