Boeing AH-64D - Apache "Longbow"

[kev2go 5,112]

AH-64D Apache Longbow

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

AH64D Cockpit

 

 

Spoiler

 Pilots Seat ( block 1- block 2)

 

 

 

Gunners SEAT ( block 1  - block 2)

 

 

 

Gunners Seat Post block 2 Upgrade

 

 

 

General Characteristics

 

 

Crew: 2 (pilot, and co-pilot/gunner)

Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m) (with both rotors turning)

Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)

Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)

Disc area: 1,809.5 ft² (168.11 m²)

Empty weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)

Loaded weight: 17,650 lb (8,000 kg)

Max. takeoff weight: 23,000 lb (10,433 kg)

Fuselage length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor, 4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment

Powerplant: 2 × General Electric T700-GE-701C turboshafts, , 1,890 shp (1,409 kW)] each

 

Performance

 

Never exceed speed: 197 knots (227 mph, 365 km/h)

Maximum speed: 158 knots (182 mph, 293 km/h)

Cruise speed: 143 knots (165 mph, 265 km/h)

Range: 257 nmi (295 mi, 476 km) with Longbow radar mast

Combat radius: 260 nmi (300 mi, 480 km)

Ferry range: 1,024 nmi (1,180 mi, 1,900 km)

Service ceiling: 21,000 ft (6,400 m) minimum loaded

Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)

Disc loading: 9.80 lb/ft² (47.9 kg/m²)

Power/mass: 0.18 hp/lb (0.31 kW/kg)

 

Armament

Guns: 1× 30 mm (1.18  in) M230 Chain Gun with 1,200 rounds as part of the Area Weapon Subsystem

Hardpoints: Four pylon stations on the stub wings. Longbows also have a station on each wingtip for an AIM-92 Stinger twin missile pack.

Rockets: Hydra 70 70 mm, CRV7 70 mm, and APKWS II ( Integration  only starting in  2013 for US army , First  overseas deployment  for AH64D in 2015 ) 70 mm air-to-ground rockets

Missiles: Typically AGM-114 Hellfire variants ; AIM-92 Stinger and Spike missiles may also be carried.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Armament stores Layout

 

 

 

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History

 

Spoiler

Following the cancellation of the AH-56 Cheyenne in 1972, in favor of projects like the U.S. Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt II and the Marine Corps Harrier, the United States Army sought an aircraft to fill an anti-armor attack role that would still be under Army command.  The 1948 Key West Agreement forbade the Army from owning combat fixed-wing aircraft. The Army wanted an aircraft better than the AH-1 Cobra in firepower, performance and range. It would have the maneuverability for terrain following nap-of-the-earth (NoE) flying. To this end, the U.S. Army issued a Request For Proposals (RFP) for an Advanced Attack Helicopter (AAH) on November 15th, 1972. As a sign of the importance of this project, in September 1973, the Army designated its five most important projects as the "Big Five", with the AAH included.

 

Proposals were submitted by Bell, Boeing Vertol/Grumman team, Hughes, Lockheed, and Sikorsky. In July 1973, the U.S. Department of Defense selected finalists Bell and Hughes Aircraft's Toolco Aircraft Division (later Hughes Helicopters). This began the phase 1 of the competition.  Each company built prototype helicopters and went through a flight test program. Hughes' Model 77/YAH-64A prototype first flew on 30 September 1975, while Bell's Model 409/YAH-63A prototype first flew on 1 October 1975. After evaluating the test results, the Army selected Hughes' YAH-64A over Bell's YAH-63A in 1976. Reasons for selecting the YAH-64A included its more damage tolerant four-blade main rotor and the instability of the YAH-63's tricycle landing gear arrangement.

 

In 1981, three pre-production AH-64As were handed over to the U.S. Army for Operational Test II. The Army testing was successful, but afterward it was decided to upgrade to the more powerful T700-GE-701 version of engine, rated at 1,690 shp (1,260 kW). The AH-64 was named the Apache in late 1981, keeping with the Army's traditional use of American Indian tribal names for its helicopters and it was approved for full-scale production in 1982. In 1983, the first production helicopter was rolled out at Hughes Helicopter's facility at Mesa, Arizona. Hughes Helicopters was purchased by McDonnell Douglas for $470 million in 1984.  The helicopter unit later became part of The Boeing Company with the merger of Boeing and McDonnell Douglas in August 1997.  In 1986, the incremental or flyaway cost for the AH-64A was $7M and the average unit cost was approximately $13.9M based on total costs.  AH-64A model full scale production began in 1983.

 

 

Summary of variant in Question ( AH64D Longbow)

 

 

 

The AH-64D Apache Longbow is a further development of the AH64A, that entered service in 1998 ( for budgetary reasons ,AH64B and C proposed upgrade never  entered service) . equipped with a glass cockpit ( multi-function displays) GPS aided Navigation,  Flir Capable targeting Cameria, and  various other advanced sensors. Carrying over from the Ah64A is the IHADSS ( Integrated Helmet and Display Sighting System)  among other abilities the pilot or gunner can slave the helicopter's 30 mm automatic M230 Chain Gun to his helmet, making the gun track head movements to point at where he looks

 

 The most noticeable improved sensor added to the AH64D of which being the AN/APG-78 Longbow millimeter-wave fire-control radar (FCR) target acquisition system and the Radar Frequency Interferometer (RFI), housed in a dome located above the main rotor. The radome's raised position enables target detection while the helicopter is behind obstacles (e.g. terrain, trees or buildings). The AN/APG-78 is capable of simultaneously tracking up to 128 targets and engaging up to 16 at once, an attack can be initiated within 30 seconds. A radio modem integrated with the sensor suite allows data to be shared with ground units and other Apaches; allowing them to fire on targets detected by a single helicopter.

 

The aircraft is powered by a pair of uprated T700-GE-701C engines. The forward fuselage was expanded to accommodate new systems to improve survivability, navigation, and 'tactical internet' communications capabilities. In February 2003, the first Block II Apache was delivered to the U.S. Army, featuring digital communications upgrades. 

 

 

 

 

The Hellfire

 

 

Spoiler

 

What would make Ah64D better than the Ah1Z would be that it uses the Hellfire Missiles over the TOW 2. ( although AH1Z can also use the hellfire but doesnt have it ingame is a matter for another topic) 

 

AGm114 Estiamted armor penetration is between 800mm - 1000mm of RHA. But real necessitated improvement over the TOW 2 would be Missiles speed. TOw travels at only 296 M/S. The Hellfire travels at 450M/S

 

 

 

Thee program to develop a laser guided fire-and-forget anti-armour missile was initiated in 1971 under the name Helicopter Launched Fire and Forget Missile (leading to the acronym Hellfire). Development and testing of laser designator and seeker components continued through 1976. In October that year, Rockwell was awarded a development contract for the newly designated AGM-114A Hellfire missile. Because Martin Marietta offered a cheaper seeker for Hellfire than Rockwell, the former eventually became an equal partner in the Hellfire prime contract. Test firings of YAGM-114A prototype missiles began in late 1978, and operational testing by the U.S. Army was completed in 1981. Full production was approved in 1982, and Initial Operational Capability of the AGM-114A with the U.S. Army was reached in 1985.

 

he AGM-114B was the initial version of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps (for its AH-1 helicopters), which was the same as the AGM-114A except for an SAD (Safing/Arming Device) for safe shipboard use. The AGM-114B also introduced the Thiokol TX-657 (M120E1) reduced-smoke rocket motor as well as some improvements to seeker and autopilot. A training version without warhead is designated ATM-114B.

 

 

The AGM-114C was the Army's version of the AGM-114B without the SAD.

 

 

The AGM-114F, also known as "Interim Hellfire", is a U.S. Army version with a new dual warhead to defeat reactive armour. The small precursor warhead is inserted between the laser seeker section and the main warhead, thereby slightly increasing the length of the missile

 

 

Later Versions like  AGM114L  are fire and forget Radar guided weapons ( newer version made available to the long bow) However for balance reasons to not have Fire and Forget capability, nothing more modern than the  Laser Guided AGM114C can be included for the time being.

 

 

 

 

 

New Armament for consideration : APKWS II Laser guided Rocket 

 

 

Spoiler

 

The APKWS II ( Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System)  started being integrated via upgrades unto various platforms in the US armed forces, First achieving  IOC with USMC in 2012 , and being deployed for use in Afghanistan in the same year . With the following years Other branches of the US military evaluated and put this system into service .  US Army declared IOC in 2013, and tests with Ah64D were sucessfull. AH64D first combat deployed  fielding APKWS in Afghanistan in 2015.

 

Current Systems of Integration  

 

 

 

 

APKWS  are  literally 2.75 Hydra rockets taken and converted into Laser Guided  missiles  , as a cost saving measure  to fill the gap between Unguided munitions and Full on  expensive Tank Busting Missiles like the Hellfire. According to the  BAE ( the Manufacturer) this is a Simple " plug and Play"  upgrade, and thus is simple and quick to incorporate into any  rotary or Fixed wing platform  that has a Targeting camera coupled with laser Designator.

 

The range of APKWS is up to a max distance of  5 Kilometers for rotary winged aircraft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

WAr thunder April Fools Event

 

 

Spoiler

 

The AH64D This was already included as the GM64 in the april fools

 

 

 

https://warthunder.com/en/news/4614-gm-64-rotary-wing-chieftain-en

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sources

 

AH64D Operators manual, march 2002.

 

https://publicintelligence.net/us-army-apache-longbow-ah-64d-attack-helicopter-operators-manual/

 

https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-ApacheLongbow.pdf

 

 

 

 

Additional Reading

 

https://www.boeing.com/defense/ah-64-apache/

 

https://www.military.com/equipment/ah-64-apache-longbow

 

 

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/apache/

 

 

Hellfire Variations 

 

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-114.html

 

 

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/hellfire-ii-missile/

Edited October 1, 2018 by kev2go
Edited poll to comply with the guidelines (again).

[SAUBER_KH7 3,326]

Open for Discussion.

 

I edited the poll to comply with the rules. All Suggestions must have a "No" option for Each question so as to be unbiased (the polling system requires users to vote for each question, not just 1 or 2).

 

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Edited September 21, 2018 by SAUBER_KH7

[Genewen 690]

Eventually the Longbow will certainly be an option. But for the current game it is way to advanced. BR-wise this is material for 12.0, going from the current BRs for helis. Even the A model is already 11.0-11.3 material in my eyes, with how much armor, mobility and weaponry it offers. And the D variant improves upon it quite a bit, especially with its ability to engage targets with only the top of its rotor showing.

[kev2go 5,112]

18 hours ago, Genewen said:

Eventually the Longbow will certainly be an option. But for the current game it is way to advanced. BR-wise this is material for 12.0, going from the current BRs for helis. Even the A model is already 11.0-11.3 material in my eyes, with how much armor, mobility and weaponry it offers.

 

 

 

What makes the Apache Superior to the Ah1Z IRL  are some of senosrs, and other electronics, Although even then they are not that far apart in capability.  since Even the Ah1Z can be fitted with a  An/AGp78 Longbow radar fitted into Radar  pod onto one of its hardpoints,

 

From war thunders perspective Looking Performance wise only,  The Ah1Z is a bit lighter,  more nimble, and Faster then the Apache, and presents a smaller profile to shot given its size.

 

looking at armament, Apache  otherwise uses the same Unguided ordinance. Apache is fitted with a 30mm auto cannon instead of a 20mm Chaingun like in the AH1Z. Apache will obviously come with Hellfires. But this is also something the Ah1Z can use IRL as its primary missile Armament. 

 

 

 

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And the D variant improves upon it quite a bit, especially with its ability to engage targets with only the top of its rotor showing.

 

 

 

if you read i suggest not adding the self guiding Hellfires that work in conjunction with the Longbow radar.  ( Ie the Agm114L), and only limiting it to the Sem active LAser Guided versions that.  Thus balance reasons so an Apache  shoot fire and forget missiles cant  over hills.    Helfires Id arge  are necessary ( both Ah64D and as a module upgrade for AH1Z)  because the TOW  2 are too slow. the AGTMs of the Mi35 are already far superior due to thier speed, and gajin said theyd even consider adding Vikhr Missiles  fore future attack copters .which would be even more lethal, and in the future its absoultely expected that Russia will get a Ka50/52 and or Mi28.

 

Apaches armor  and Kevlar plating isn't going to turn this into a flying tank. Far from it.  ITs only rated to be resistant to Small arms fire. ( IE such as Assault rifles that troops carry)  IT wont survive taking hits from 20mm + calibres at fired from Anti air guns,  AS such Shilkas, and to an greater extent, any of the 30mm shooting guns like the York, Flakpanzer, or Type 87 will  still wreck Apaches  if it flies within thier range., like they already do to other helicopters.

 

So wit that said due to Ah1Z already being a more modern Platform than the first Apache Iteration, and due to Russian tree alrady having superior AGTMS with Mi35. suggesting the Ah64D for the future is not a giant leapfrog in technology, not unless gajin decides to simulate more advances avionics that Both Viper and Apache offer IRL.

Edited September 22, 2018 by kev2go

[OkIES 35]

Would love to see this added! Would be a day 1 GE purchase for me :)!!!

[UNIT_normal 804]

I think independent rank 6 AH-56 → AH-64 is nice.

[Insanous-player@psn 10]

I say AYE!, but it should be in a different tree :\

[WulfPack 1,693]

+1

[RanchSauce39 397]

hellfires already a thing  for Ah1Z why not

[TerikG2014 1,389]

Just a small thing the Canadian Rocket Vehicle-7 (CRV-7) manufactured by Britsol aersopace were not fitted to American Apaches. To my knowledge and we're primarily fitted to British/Commonwealth  Apaches. (it's also worth noting that there a fair few differences between the AH-64D and the WAH-64/AH.1 Apache)

Edited January 10, 2019 by TerikG2014

[Jamaroo 246]

" I love the smell of pure absolute destruction in the morning, it smells like....victory" 

 

+1 from me, if they added the Apache I would tirelessly grind the whole Helicopter branch (which at the moment is really hard to do) just to get my hands on this masterpiece of death!

[Wilhuff_Tarkin_ 467]

+1 no reason to not add at this point. Especially with the fact it has to be top Heli for Brits and japanese anyway.

[PaganMin_ 483]

+1 after the AH-64 and Viper as top tier. But with it's realistic abilities what the Longbow was built for: fire and forget on multiple targets.

[Milocat 4,854]

+1 to this, should be appropriately tiered though.

[PaganMin_ 483]

Armament is not correct. AIM-9 Sidewinder is missing.

[TerikG2014 1,389]

3 hours ago, DrEvil__ said:

Armament is not correct. AIM-9 Sidewinder is missing.

Also CRV-7 is still on the list despite never being used by the US.

[PaganMin_ 483]

I got this from the Kiowa thread and found this picture. The AH-64 can use 32 of this beauties. Means 16 Hellfire if I am correct or 32 DAGR to attack enemy tanks and ground targets. HOORAH!

[RanchSauce39 397]

On 20/03/2019 at 06:15, TerikG2014 said:

Also CRV-7 is still on the list despite never being used by the US.

 

 

The suggestion thread includes mention in the poll whether or not it should be considered for other nations of the Ah64D IE like UK, which for their License built Ah64D ( Westland Apache) do have CRV7's.

 

 

 

On 20/03/2019 at 03:04, DrEvil__ said:

Armament is not correct. AIM-9 Sidewinder is missing.

 

 

Dont be so hasty in posting images without any context.

 

 

THe Aim9 was only ever experimentally tested on a AH64. on ther Ah64.

 

US  ( or AFAIK not even UK/Japan) operated Ah64s dont have Aim9' capability.  It is not an authorized store loadout. Unlike the Ah1Z which is capable of being operationally used and Its backed by official documentation of being so. ( ie the Operators manual)

 

On 20/03/2019 at 18:25, DrEvil__ said:

I got this from the Kiowa thread and found this picture. The AH-64 can use 32 of this beauties. Means 16 Hellfire if I am correct or 32 DAGR to attack enemy tanks and ground targets. HOORAH!

 

DAGR is an experimentally fired from AH64E and only as recent as 2014.

 

Even since then It is not yet in use by the US army. and even if it was you'd basically need an AH64 documentation of very recent Revision GL with that.

 

At this point the Ah64E is the most modern Apache and all Ah64D's are going ot be modernized to that standard. So the Ah64D probably never never will use these operationally. There is honestly far more merit in APKWS as a new feature than DAGR as that is now officially adopted for use, and its operation is easy to implement becuase they are literally just laser guided 2.75 rockets. Would essentially be the same mechanics as Gajin already has for the Hellfires.

 

AH64D doesnt need experimental Nonsense. This is a suggestion for regular tree vehicle, not a premium.

Edited April 2, 2019 by RanchSauce39

[TerikG2014 1,389]

2 hours ago, RanchSauce39 said:

 

 

The suggestion thread includes mention in the poll whether or not it should be considered for other nations of the Ah64D IE like UK, which for their License built Ah64D ( Westland Apache) do have CRV7's.

 

I mean sure but there individual suggestions for those surely it would be best to keep the one in the US thread to US spec seing how both Britiain and Japan have individual posts dedicated to there own variants.

 

Edited March 21, 2019 by TerikG2014

[PaganMin_ 483]

On 21/03/2019 at 21:23, RanchSauce39 said:

 

 

The suggestion thread includes mention in the poll whether or not it should be considered for other nations of the Ah64D IE like UK, which for their License built Ah64D ( Westland Apache) do have CRV7's.

 

 

 

 

 

Dont be so hasty in posting images without any context.

 

 

THe Aim9 was only ever experimentally tested on a AH64. on ther Ah64.

 

US  ( or AFAIK not even UK/Japan) operated Ah64s dont have Aim9' capability.  It is not an authorized store loadout. Unlike the Ah1Z which is capable of being operationally used and Its backed by official documentation of being so. ( ie the Operators manual)

 

 

DAGR is an experimentally fired from AH64D and only as recent as 2014.

 

Even since then It is not yet in use by the US army. and even if it was you'd basically need an AH64 documentation of very recent Revision GL with that.

 

At this point the Ah64E is the most modern Apache and all Ah64D's are going ot be modernized to that standard. So the Ah64D probably never never will use these operationally. There is honestly far more merit in APKWS as a new feature than DAGR as that is now officially adopted for use, and its operation is easy to implement becuase they are literally just laser guided 2.75 rockets. Would essentially be the same mechanics as Gajin already has for the Hellfires.

 

AH64D doesnt need experimental Nonsense. This is a suggestion for regular tree vehicle, not a premium.

The Sidewinder is NOT experimental. It's a regular loadout. And for the DAGR: if it's capable to carry it why should it not be in the game? There is much more experimental nonsense in the regular tree on other countries. Just have a look at the Mig-19. They changed the original R-3 to a fictional R-3 with the last update and nobody pets an eye. Tunguska with ATA against tanks. Or just look at the german tree.

 

P.S. I already found several sources that the AIM-9 is a regular armament 

 

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/apache/

 

http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/ah_64e.htm

 

http://www.airpower.at/news01/1010_afghanistan/ah-64.htm

Edited March 23, 2019 by DrEvil__

[CK_16 791]

The AH-64D is pretty different from the UK and Japan variants. Iirc no real full AH-64D has been given to any allied nations to the US except maybe Israel.

 

Not saying no Apache for those 2 but...the AH-64D and the future US Apache are quite different Beasts from the export variants. 

[TerikG2014 1,389]

11 hours ago, CK_16 said:

Not saying no Apache for those 2 but...the AH-64D and the future US Apache are quite different Beasts from the export variants. 

Actually the WAH-64 the uk uses is based on the normal D but under went extensive moods by the MoD 

[RanchSauce39 397]

On 22/03/2019 at 03:31, DrEvil__ said:

The Sidewinder is NOT experimental. It's a regular loadout. And for the DAGR: if it's capable to carry it why should it not be in the game? There is much more experimental nonsense in the regular tree on other countries. Just have a look at the Mig-19. They changed the original R-3 to a fictional R-3 with the last update and nobody pets an eye. Tunguska with ATA against tanks. Or just look at the german tree.

 

P.S. I already found several sources that the AIM-9 is a regular armament 

 

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/apache/

 

http://www.military-today.com/helicopters/ah_64e.htm

 

http://www.airpower.at/news01/1010_afghanistan/ah-64.htm

 

 

not according to the  AH64D Operators manual for the US army ......  there is no mention of Aim9's. Only Rockets, Hellfire family of missiles, and Guns operation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But whatever Wiki > Primary source documentation, amirte?

 

 

Edited March 26, 2019 by RanchSauce39

[PaganMin_ 483]

According to 

On 26/03/2019 at 03:30, RanchSauce39 said:

 

 

not according to the  AH64D Operators manual for the US army ......  there is no mention of Aim9's. Only Rockets, Hellfire family of missiles, and Guns operation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But whatever Wiki > Primary source documentation, amirte?

 

 

Well 3 sources say yes 1 no. Hmm.

 

And my sources are not from wikipedia. Where did you get that from?

 

Which year is your manual from? You know manuals change over years. The AH-64D built since 2018 changed massively from the earlier AH-64D especially when it comes to air-to-air combat according to Jane's.

 

And according to Jane's (I think I don't have to explain who they are) thery don't talk about Sidwinder aswell BUT the option for 2x Stingers instead of missiles which means beside the 2 Stingers on each wing 2 more Stingers for each station which makes it a total of 12! Stingers.

 

My question is what you would prefer to have in the game. The two 2x AIM-9 ATA or 12x AIM-92 ATA.

 

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780004721347/Modern-Military-Helicopters-Janes-Pocket-0004721349/plp

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wearethemighty.com/articles/the-apache-is-about-to-get-more-lethal-against-jets-and-helicopters/amp

Edited March 27, 2019 by DrEvil__

[RanchSauce39 397]

5 hours ago, DrEvil__ said:

According to 

Well 3 sources say yes 1 no. Hmm.

 

Articles that dont list thier sources vs actual  manual hmmmm...

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And my sources are not from wikipedia. Where did you get that from?

 

Which year is your manual from?

 

Its not mine, the op that created this thread linked it as as source.  Dated 2002. And thats revision that detials the ah64d block 2 to the original 1998 block 1.

 

 

 

 

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You know manuals change over years.

 

Yes and if you want to create a vehicle you want to use the historical data available to you

 

 

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The AH-64D built since 2018 changed massively from the earlier AH-64D especially when it comes to air-to-air combat according to Jane's.

 

Yea except its not an ah64d. its  called  the AH64E  guardian which was produced since 2011 introduced since 2012. Many older ah64d longbows have been rebuilt into ah64e. Over the years since.

 

 

However this Not not the helicopter  suggested here.

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And according to Jane's (I think I don't have to explain who they are) thery don't talk about Sidwinder aswell BUT the option for 2x Stingers instead of missiles which means beside the 2 Stingers on each wing 2 more Stingers for each station which makes it a total of 12! Stingers.

 

Japanese ah64d can not us army.

The ones that can are the ah64e.

 

 

 

 

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My question is what you would prefer to have in the game. The two 2x AIM-9 ATA or 12x AIM-92 ATA.

 

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/9780004721347/Modern-Military-Helicopters-Janes-Pocket-0004721349/plp

 

 

This is in outdated book published in 1998. Back then the ah64d was only starting its first year of army service during 1998

 

Manual want declassified at the time. So janes was making this publication basedd purely on personal analysis and guestimates at that time. Ah64d was only experimentally tested with sidewinders. 

 

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wearethemighty.com/articles/the-apache-is-about-to-get-more-lethal-against-jets-and-helicopters/amp

 

 

Yea again thats ah64e as the ah64d hasnt in production since at least 2010, this article is from 2016.