Is the T-72M2 Bulgarian or Czechoslovakia?

[MZVR006 17]

As you can see the T-72M2 is bulgarian and the T-72M4 is czech right?

 

However sources beside Wikipedia says the Czech made and design T-72M2.

 

http://tanknutdave.com/the-t72m2-moderna-tank/

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t72m2_moderna.htm

 

These link all point that the Czech made the T-72M2 yet again Wikipedia on the equipment of the Bulgarian Army have 210 T-72A/M2, Saying it a Indigenous tank design based on the T-72M1.

 

So who design the T-72M2, Bulgaria or Czechoslovakia?

[Coldsocks 49]

I think they are both right - M2 in czech T72M2 is just model number( like pz 1, pz 2, pz 3, ....), then there was T72M3 and after that m4

[MZVR006 17]

31 minutes ago, Make_CZE said:

I think they are both right - M2 in czech T72M2 is just model number( like pz 1, pz 2, pz 3, ....), then there was T72M3 and after that m4

So does that mean Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia jointly design and build T-72M2?

 

[Coldsocks 49]

Just now, MZVR006 said:

So does that mean Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia jointly design and build T-72M2?

 

No, they are different tanks just with same names. Both czech and bulgarian are based on T72M1 so they just named their upgraded version T72M2. 

[RoflSeal 8,561]

1 minute ago, MZVR006 said:

So does that mean Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia jointly design and build T-72M2?

 

No they just share the same designation
 

Bulgarian T-72M2 which is in active service with their army quite different from Czech T-72M2 "Moderna" which was a prototype

 

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Bulgarian T-72M2

 

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Czech T-72M2 Moderna

[MZVR006 17]

Thank you all for clearing the confusion up. Now I know the difference between T-72M2 and T-72M2 "Moderna". Both of these tank I have huge respect for. 

 

 

[csla1972 849]

On 5/26/2019 at 12:18 AM, RoflSeal said:

 

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Czech T-72M2 Moderna

T-72M2 Moderna was developed exlusively in Slovakia after division of Czechoslovakia. The Czech Republic has nothing to do with development.

You can see also Slovak insignia on turret.

Edited April 6, 2022 by csla1972

[csla1972 849]

Slovakia developed two versions of T-72M2(E) Moderna.

First version had worse protection and 2x 20mm Oerlikon (T-72M2E Moderna).

Second version have increased protection and 1x 30mm gun 2A42 (T-72M2 Moderna).

 

More info:

https://www.valka.cz/SVK-T-72M2-Moderna-t29016

Edited April 6, 2022 by csla1972

[PEAKVIRGIN 1,254]

22 minutes ago, csla1972 said:

Slovakia developed two versions of T-72M2(E) Moderna.

First version had worse protection and 2x 20mm Oerlikon.

Second version have increased protection and 1x 30mm gun 2A42.

 

More info:

https://www.valka.cz/SVK-T-72M2-Moderna-t29016

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Edited April 6, 2022 by PEAKVIRGIN
My bad mistaken names

[oppsijustkilledu@psn 2,314]

Wonder how Slovakia feels about it being included in the Russian tree 

[csla1972 849]

 

On 6. 4. 2022 at 14:21, oppsijustkilledu@psn said:

Wonder how Slovakia feels about it being included in the Russian tree 

From my personal view (I am from Slovakia) very positively. Other Slovak people from our squadron also positively or neutraly. But Czech part of our squadron would be rather when their T-72 variants would be part of the German TT.

Edited April 30, 2022 by csla1972

[SHIZIK_SVK 0]

On 06/04/2022 at 14:21, oppsijustkilledu@psn said:

Wonder how Slovakia feels about it being included in the Russian tree 

Pretty ok with that. I´d rather have entire Czechoslovakian tech tree - https://warthunderczechoslovakia.neocities.org/czechoslovak_ground_tree