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Fieseler-Skoda FiSk 199


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Would you like to see this in game?  

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  1. 1. Yes/no?

    • Yes
      108
    • No (Please state why)
      11
  2. 2. What BR?

    • Realistic: 4.0 (It's a heavier G-2 with the stock armament)
      77
    • Realistic: 4.3 (It's just a G-2 that's heavier.)
      30
    • Realistic: Other (what Br?)
      3
    • Arcade: 5.0 (It's a heavier G-2 with the stock armament)
      43
    • Arcade: 5.3 (Original BR)
      15
    • Realistic: Other (What BR?)
      3
    • No, I don't want this.
      10
  3. 3. Where should this lie

    • As a premium!
      21
    • As a squadron reward!
      24
    • Under the G-2 Trop!
      46
    • As a gift/event!
      18
    • Bundle!
      0
    • I don't want this in game.
      10


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I couldn't find many sources for this, so here goes!

 

The FiSk 199 is a modification of the Bf 109G, it was an attempt at a longer range 109, it was a fighter-bomber made by Skoda-Kauba, in Prague. A Bf 109G-1/R1 was modified for fighter-bomber duties, by adding 2 300 litre drop tanks, and an ETC500 bomb rack under the fuselage, with a jettison-able landing gear added, making the plane sit weirdly on the ground one other modification, (that I'm unsure if it is correct, as I found it on a modelling site, and cannot confirm or deny it's correctness, due to the lack of information on the aircraft) is that it was given a DB 605 in lieu of a DB 601. It would be a unique premium, or squadron vehicle, as it is a 109 that carries a larger bomb, and in theory could have a longer range, for enduring confrontation. (I don't know much about the mode, I just like this plane)

 

Some stuff ripped from sources:

(1) "The first flight, performed by Heinrich Beauvais, was made on 30 June 1942. In the event, this modification was not adopted for service. This particular undercarriage configuration of the FiSK 199 was revived for the post war Orlican L-40."

 

(2) "To clear the large 500kg bomb from the ground during take off, a third main landing gear leg and wheel was plugged in a middle position in the fuselage, right behind the pilot’s seat. After take off, the supplementary wheel was jettisoned and went back to earth with a parachute. Some tests were made but didn’t lead to production."

 

(3)  "The modifications were carried out by Skoda in Prague, hence the assignment of the Fi-Sk designation.

It is thought that two aircraft were converted and tested."

 

(4) "Type: Single-seat fighter

Power plant: 1 x 1,475 PS DB 605A-1

Accommodation 1

Wing span 32 6.7 ft

Length overall 29 ft 0.3 in

Height overall 10 ft 6 in

Wing area 174.38 sq ft

Weight empty 5,897 lb

Weight loaded 6,940 lb

Max wing loading 39.82 lb/sq ft

Max power loading 4.70 lb/hp

Max level speed 386 mph (at 22,660 ft)

Cruising speed 311 mph (at 19,685 ft)

Initial climb c. 3,500 ft/min.

Time to height 16,405 ft in c. 5.0 min

Service ceiling 38,000 ft

Range c. 621 miles

Armament:

Bf 109 G-2 Specification (G-1 is the actual type)

through propeller hub20-mm MG151/20 (720 rpm; velocity 1,920 ft.sec)

above engine2 x 7.92-mm MG17 (1,200 rpm; velocity 2,477 ft.sec)"

 

Some images of the prototype:

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(and that's all for actual photos of it that exist, anyways here have some models and a diagram)

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Sources: 

(1) Messerschmitt Bf 109: The Design and Operational History, By Jan Forsgren

(2) https://modelingmadness.com/review/axis/luft/fisk199.htm

(3) http://me109.airwar1946.nl/family/FiSk-199.htm

(4) (Just some info from the regular G series) https://ww2-weapons.com/me-109-g/

 

 

Thank you for your time, and believe me, I had to scrape the barrel for information for this silly bundle of fun. :salute:

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Replacing images, some broke.
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Open for discussion. :salute:

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3 hours ago, leroyonly said:

Open for discussion. :salute:

Thanks! :good: I tried my hardest to find actual sources but it's sooo hard because so much of the stuff I've researched religiously already had suggestions! :crying:

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3 minutes ago, tinygerman26 said:

I'm gonna have to say no. But its a very interesting design!

Any particular reason why?

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1 minute ago, tinygerman26 said:

We have enough 109s as it is and plus in Tank RB whats the chance a player is gonna get enough SP to take this thing ad and whats the chance they just ditch the bomb?

Well, it's a 500 kg, so they could effectively nuke a tank, then use it as a fighter? But I get your point, for me it's the novelty.

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I suppose this could be added as a premium or gift plane.  As for BR, I voted to keep it the same, since while it is heavier, it does gain a more useful payload for ground attack, making it more useful to bring into combined arms gamemodes (and in air battles I don't think it's going to make enough of a difference to matter).

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On 07/11/2019 at 03:18, *seadogpirate said:

standard tree i want more 109's.

Under the G-2, or as it's own thing in the attacker line? Kinda vague my man.

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  • 3 months later...

I approve, if the external fuel tanks will be added to the game...
I may have more information :)
The thing is this plane was not a G-0 (your 2nd source) and was not a G-2 (even if there is a source, it was called G-2/R1). It was a prototype converted from a G-1.
Source (look for BD+GC): https://me109.info/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=skzliste&order=werkskennung

Additionally, on the picture you can see why it is a G-1 :)
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On 03/03/2020 at 09:06, Miltaccfd said:

I approve, if the external fuel tanks will be added to the game...
I may have more information :)
The thing is this plane was not a G-0 (your 2nd source) and was not a G-2 (even if there is a source, it was called G-2/R1). It was a prototype converted from a G-1.
Source (look for BD+GC): https://me109.info/web.php?lang=en&auth=e&name=skzliste&order=werkskennung

Additionally, on the picture you can see why it is a G-1 :)
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Thank you, as I mentioned I had a hard time finding english or even resources on the vehicle in general. But thank you. o7

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  • 1 month later...

Most photos for a lot of my suggestions broke, so I am now revamping suggestions with little information tweaks and the like, so a bump I guess?

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  • 10 months later...

I've spent almost a year looking for any new photos or information about the FiSk, and unfortunately, I have only found one new picture. It's of the landing gear. It will now be added to the post. Cheers.

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