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[Head3masher 2,272]

Hi, why is it not possible to choose domination or ground assault?

 

Many players leave when the mode they do not want comes up.

[TyphoonCro 6,833]

3 hours ago, Head3masher said:

Hi, why is it not possible to choose domination or ground assault?

 

Many players leave when the mode they do not want comes up.

 

Disclaimer! This is not my screenshot

Long, long time ago this option was probably considered but for whatever reason it was removed (version in game is 1.29!)

Nowadays, I'm not sure if it will even happen at all

Reasons probably (Im just assuming here) being increased waiting times and lack of players for airfield/air domination battles

Edited July 20, 2020 by TyphoonCro

[blastedryan 967]

That would kill the game.

 

All the groundpounders would go have their 5 minute games in ground strike and all the fighters would go have their 20+ kill games in domination.

 

The average player would go into a ground strike and whine about not being able to do anything before the game is over and when they switch to domination they would whine about being camped. Ultimately they would quit.

[Touched_Grass 758]

3 hours ago, blastedryan said:

All the groundpounders would go have their 5 minute games in ground strike and all the fighters would go have their 20+ kill games in domination.

On the contrary, almost all my high kill games these days have taken place in ground strike. The domination games are way too short because the mismatched teams cause one team not to cap the needed airfield and subsequent player kills and destruction of ground targets in domination lead to very short matches. In some ground strike maps, especially front line, the ground targets are too numerous or too far back in the map to be bombed out in five minutes, thus resulting in longer games.

[Head3masher 2,272]

I really don't enjoy domination, it would be nice to avoid it altogether.

[AvengingSpirit@live 7]

I find that the inability to choose game modes is extremely frustrating at times.  I am currently trying to grind the BattlePass challenges and only have limited time each day to play this game.  When I get a challenge such as "Destroy 6 bases" and then get 3 or 4 matches in a row that are all Domination it is impossible for me to complete that challenge through those matches since there are obviously no bases to destroy.  Other times when I get a challenge such as to take out a certain number of other planes, then Domination mode is fine.  Either way, it is my time & I should be able to choose which mode I want to spend it on.  Since that inability causes this kind of frustration it is a major consideration in deciding whether to just quit playing War Thunder.  It is supposed to be a game to have fun in, not get frustrated due to these type of limitations.

 

It would be great if an option could be added to the game to turn on the ability for the game to consider the players currently active challenges or tasks (at least the daily ones since obviously have very limited time to complete them) when deciding what game modes to include.  So if the player has a task to destroy X number of bases, then the Domination mode would be excluded.  Each type of task could be assigned the applicable game modes that make sense for them.  I expect that if something like this were to be done, there would be much fewer incidences of people quitting out of matches due to being dropped into modes that make it impossible to complete the tasks they are working on.

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

You obviously refer to AB. While I would in general appreciate a choice too, I already have to wait rather long for a match in higher tiers AB. Not really sure how to solve this.

 

Your alternative would be RB, where you will always find bases at start. They even come back on many maps after destruction.

 

A tip at last: If you quit a domination, you are very likely to end in one again. This may be the wrath of Gaijin or simply the servers all starting doms for a few minutes. So quitting tends not to help.

[AvengingSpirit@live 7]

On 13/09/2022 at 17:02, Dodo_Dud said:

You obviously refer to AB. While I would in general appreciate a choice too, I already have to wait rather long for a match in higher tiers AB. Not really sure how to solve this.

 

Your alternative would be RB, where you will always find bases at start. They even come back on many maps after destruction.

 

A tip at last: If you quit a domination, you are very likely to end in one again. This may be the wrath of Gaijin or simply the servers all starting doms for a few minutes. So quitting tends not to help.

Yes, I am referring to AB.  Switching to RB is not really an alternative when I have a current task to take out X number of bases specific to AB matches only (such as a special task that I picked previously - cannot just switch to RB).  Yes, I could spend SL's to change the task, but then could end up with a similar situation anyway and is not something I would want to do if I already had 4 of the 6 required bases destroyed and am just trying to complete the remaining 2, only to keep getting put into Domination matches over & over.  As I said in my previous post, it is actually getting frustrating enough for me to consider just quitting WT period - I am not there yet, but I may get to that point, since it is a game after all & should be more fun than frustrating, otherwise what is the point in playing?  Makes little sense to me for Gaijin to be shooting themselves in the foot this way by frustrating their customers in this manner (especially if you are correct per your comment about "Wrath of Gaijin" - I have suspected the same thing).  Although I am not a developer & thus could be wrong, I don't expect it should be all that hard for the Dev's to add a check for the players currently active tasks when picking the type of map/mode for the next match.  If are needing to destroy bases then exclude all the domination maps for that round since it is impossible to complete the task.

As far as quitting a domination map & then getting put into another one, that is exactly what is happening.  Since I have limited time to play I don't have much choice if I want to complete the daily task before it expires & at least this way I don't have to also wait hours for my planes to repair and play again (or spend thousands of SL's to repair) if I actually go ahead & play the Domination matches in these situations.  This issue really needs to get addressed.

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

8 hours ago, AvengingSpirit@live said:

only to keep getting put into Domination matches over & over.

DON'T quit them.

 

If map rotation works jointly on all servers (some people claim this), then all servers will at this time and for a while offer arcade domination. Quitting will not change that. Waiting will.

 

I can't tell you what mechanism is actually at work as I never investigated this myself, but it sure makes quitting a nonproductive option.

 

8 hours ago, AvengingSpirit@live said:

Since I have limited time to play I don't have much choice if I want to complete the daily task before it expires & at least this way I don't have to also wait hours for my planes to repair and play again (or spend thousands of SL's to repair) if I actually go ahead & play the Domination matches in these situations.  This issue really needs to get addressed.

IMHO the issue is addressed really: You know that doms exists in arcade. So if you want to avoid the situation, do not pick this task in AB but only take it if it is offered in RB. That is why I personally prefer to avoid winning tasks if I can. They are also luck dependent. Yet I don't expect to be placed on the winning team for the duration of the task. I change task or pick one without winning.

Edited October 15, 2022 by Dodo_Dud

[DerLachendeMann 506]

On 15/10/2022 at 04:07, Dodo_Dud said:

DON'T quit them.

 

If map rotation works jointly on all servers (some people claim this), then all servers will at this time and for a while offer arcade domination. Quitting will not change that. Waiting will.

 

I can't tell you what mechanism is actually at work as I never investigated this myself, but it sure makes quitting a nonproductive option.

 

IMHO the issue is addressed really: You know that doms exists in arcade. So if you want to avoid the situation, do not pick this task in AB but only take it if it is offered in RB. That is why I personally prefer to avoid winning tasks if I can. They are also luck dependent. Yet I don't expect to be placed on the winning team for the duration of the task. I change task or pick one without winning.

In RB I'll get one base, maybe 2, and if I'm very lucky 3, after that it's often a dame duration problem, game will be over before I get to 4th base, either the opponent got wiped out or time actually ran out. With the AB mechanics destroying 6-8 or more bases per game is entirely feasible, that's why I prefer the bases task in AB...

 

For winning tasks it depends on how much time I have, and for how long I want to fool around.

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

27 minutes ago, DerLachendeMann said:

In RB I'll get one base, maybe 2, and if I'm very lucky 3, after that it's often a dame duration problem, game will be over before I get to 4th base, either the opponent got wiped out or time actually ran out. With the AB mechanics destroying 6-8 or more bases per game is entirely feasible, that's why I prefer the bases task in AB...

I know. And hence the average time it takes is much the same. But this doesn't stop buddy from complaining, does it?

[anyuser 5,136]

4 hours ago, DerLachendeMann said:

 With the AB mechanics destroying 6-8 or more bases per game is entirely feasible, that's why I prefer the bases task in AB...

If bases would respawn in AB, yes.

But we don't got the respawn so you are left with max 4 bases in AB and more often then not you might get 2 or maybe 3.

 

But on the other hand you need to destroy less bases for the task in RB afaik.

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

4 hours ago, anyuser said:

If bases would respawn in AB, yes.

But we don't got the respawn so you are left with max 4 bases in AB and more often then not you might get 2 or maybe 3.

 

Sorry, that is utterly wrong. You can get the 15 base kills for the special in just one match if you are really lucky (I maxed at 12 iirc). Every plane that you used that participated in a base kill will get a credit:

Take plane #1 and bomb 4 bases with one bomb or rocket each.

Take plane #2 and bomb 4 bases with one bomb or rocket each.

Take plane #3 and bomb 4 bases with one bomb or rocket each.

Take plane #4 and kill 4 bases with bombs or rockets each.

 

That counts as 16 base kills. In real games, you (or your team) will shorten the plan somewhat, but if you want 6 kills from one match, that is easy.

(And the airfield does count too, if you kill it)

Edited October 17, 2022 by Dodo_Dud

[anyuser 5,136]

Ah, didn't thought about that one.

 

The theoretical limit would be either 44 or 88 bases then (11 Slots + Goldrespawn, depending on if a plane can count twice).

Yeah...

[DerLachendeMann 506]

12 hours ago, anyuser said:

Ah, didn't thought about that one.

 

The theoretical limit would be either 44 or 88 bases then (11 Slots + Goldrespawn, depending on if a plane can count twice).

Yeah...

In the end it's a kind of balance act, the 4 plane example Dodo_Dud gave is pretty reasonable : First you have to reach the bases, and in the end you have to actually destroy them too, dropping on a base with 5 different planes and the games ends before the base is destroyed will count for nothing, also there's usually competition.

[Dodo_Dud 5,074]

57 minutes ago, DerLachendeMann said:

In the end it's a kind of balance act, the 4 plane example Dodo_Dud gave is pretty reasonable : First you have to reach the bases, and in the end you have to actually destroy them too, dropping on a base with 5 different planes and the games ends before the base is destroyed will count for nothing, also there's usually competition.

Besides, there will be a repair bill coming up too. If I am not in a hurry, I rather kill 4 bases and an airfield for RP & Crew XP galore instead of gettting more than 5 kills out of the match.

 

57 minutes ago, DerLachendeMann said:

also there's usually competition

But that is actually helpful in the sense that you rather want a dead base than no dead base when match conclusion hits. (as you pointed out before)

Edited October 18, 2022 by Dodo_Dud

[anyuser 5,136]

16 minutes ago, DerLachendeMann said:

First you have to reach the bases, and in the end you have to actually destroy them too

Well, somebody has to destroy them. And I saw so many US fighter bombers who lawndarted for the bases. Not with that Idea in mind I would say, but those will be able to tag at last in one flyout I would say.

[AvengingSpirit@live 7]

On 15/10/2022 at 03:07, Dodo_Dud said:

DON'T quit them.

 

If map rotation works jointly on all servers (some people claim this), then all servers will at this time and for a while offer arcade domination. Quitting will not change that. Waiting will.

I normally don't quit matches for a number of reasons but was frustrated enough that day to do so twice in a row, but as you already stated, that was pointless (other than avoiding the need to pay to repair my planes after a match I did not want to play) - anyway lesson learned.  I am still relatively new to WT, having only played 8-9 months now (most games I would not consider that a new player anymore, but not so much for WT - lol) - so am still learning.  

 

On 15/10/2022 at 03:07, Dodo_Dud said:

IMHO the issue is addressed really: You know that doms exists in arcade. So if you want to avoid the situation, do not pick this task in AB but only take it if it is offered in RB. That is why I personally prefer to avoid winning tasks if I can. They are also luck dependent. Yet I don't expect to be placed on the winning team for the duration of the task. I change task or pick one without winning.

Until recently I only had rank 3 vehicles available for Air (for 5 countries), so had limited options to pick tasks from (could not pick Ground or Naval).  Also, there are a fair number of tasks that are near impossible for me to complete or involve too much luck, such as the ones requiring wins that you already mentioned (other ones such as "destroy x number of strike planes" are very difficult because often I have matches where no enemy planes are strike - thus, I avoid those tasks as well).  The task to destroy x number of bases is totally doable for me, so I tend to pick it even though it does have this frustration per risk of doms. 

 

As a side note, I did recently try playing Bluewater Naval battles again (tried it back in Feb & did not like it) & although it took me a while to get used to the controls, I actually like it now better than WoW.  I used to play WoW a lot and now doubt I will go back to it - never thought I would say that 6 months ago.  I find it more challenging and interesting than WoW and like the fact that can bring in already researched planes to use in the matches - adds another level to the ship battles that I really like (although not so fun when my ship gets blown up by another plane - it works both ways - lol).  Anyway, my reason for the point is that I now have another set of tasks I can pick from each time since I now have rank 3 ships available for 3 countries.   Will have to start work on Ground next (just have one level 2 tank so far).

 

On 17/10/2022 at 15:48, Dodo_Dud said:

you can get the 15 base kills for the special in just one match if you are really lucky (I maxed at 12 iirc). Every plane that you used that participated in a base kill will get a credit

Thanks for that tip.  I was not aware of this fact & it should help me to complete those destroy bases tasks easier/quicker, thus reducing the frustration per risk of doms.