destroyer "Impavido" Class, Guided Missile Destroyer, Impavido (D 570)

[mc205v 786]

M.M. Destroyer "Impavido" (D 570)

At the end of the 1950s, the need for more and more modern warships pushed the Italian Navy to build a new type of destroyer that could carry surface-to-air missiles for anti-aircraft combat. The Impavido class was composed of two units the Impavido and the Intrepido which were the first destroyers launching missiles built in Italy. These two new units were derived from the previous Indomito class of which they retained the lines of the hull, but with slightly increased displacement and size, they were widely automated ships, both in the detection sensors, and in the weapon systems, and in the engine system, and they had a remarkable stability being equipped with three pairs of stabilizing fins. The project involved the embarkation of 1 AB 47J helicopter, thanks to a landing bridge, later it was decided not to embark any type of helicopter. The strengths of this class of destroyer were the electronic equipment and armament that allowed it to respond to any type of threat, naval, submarine and air. Particular attention should be given to the US-made Tartar anti-aircraft missile system, which was composed of a Mk 13 Tartar Standard missile launcher ramp (located aft of the ship) that could launch RIM-24 Tartar SAM missiles, in the hold there were stored 40 of these missiles. The Impavido entered service on November 16, 1963, and in the period between 1976 and 1977 it was subjected to modernization works that mainly concerned on-board electronics and armament.

 

Specifications:

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Crew:
Officers: 20
Second Chiefs, Sergeants and Seamen: 316

Displacement: 
Full load: 3940 tons

Dimensions:
Length: 130,90 m 
Width: 13,60 m
Full Load Draft: 4,50 m

Engine System:
4 Foster - Wheeler boilers
2 turbines and 2 CNR turbo reducers
2 propellers
Power: 70.000 HP 
Speed: 34 knots (63 km/h)

Autonomy:
5000 miles (9260 km) at 16 knots

Armament:
2 Cannons 127/38 mm Mark 12 (1 twin systems)
4 Cannons 76/62 mm OTO Melara (single systems)
2 trinated Anti-Submarine torpedo launchers ASW 533 mm
1 missile launchers Mk 13 Tartar Standard (with 40 RIM-24 Tartar SAM)

Electronic equipments:
1 SPS52 three-dimensional radar
1 SPS12 air search radar
2 SPG51B missile guiding radars
3 directions of fire NA10 with Orion 10X radar
1 SPQ2 surface discovery and navigation radar
1 SQS23B hull sonar

Photos:

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Detail of the starboard view of the Impavido

Radar systems aboard the Impavido Destroyer

Launch of a Tartar missile from the Impavido Destroyer

An AB-204AS helicopter of the Italian Navy flies over the destroyer Impavido

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Sources:

http://www.seaforces.org/marint/Italian-Navy/Destroyer/Impavido-class.htm

https://www.navypedia.org/ships/italy/it_dd_impavido.htm

http://www.naviecapitani.it/Navi e Capitani/gallerie navi/navi militari storiche/schede navi/I/Impavido/Impavido.htm

https://svppbellum.blogspot.com/2018/12/p_5.html

https://www.marina.difesa.it/noi-siamo-la-marina/mezzi/mezzi-storici/Pagine/EFGHI/impavido02.aspx

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-24.html

http://www.seaforces.org/wpnsys/SURFACE/RIM-24-Tartar.htm

Edited January 18, 2022 by mc205v

[ItssLuBu 1,793]

Approved and open for discussion. 

[mc205v 786]

27 minutes ago, ItssLuBu said:

Approved and open for discussion. 

Thanks

[ironcell26 252]

I WANT IT, NOW!!! +1

[_Pixy 196]

Oh yes baby give me the modern goods +1

[ZackZooter 55]

If Gaijin adds it w/out early missile addition, i guess it might be placed at BR4.3 because it lacks powerful deterrent against mid-range enemy ships & planes.... 

 

Maybe if early-missile playstyle similar to Saetta version were added... it might be placed at BR4.7 due to its limited anti-ship firepower capability... 

 

BUT that's just my guess

[mc205v 786]

23 minutes ago, ZackZooter said:

If Gaijin adds it w/out early missile addition, i guess it might be placed at BR4.3 because it lacks powerful deterrent against mid-range enemy ships & planes.... 

 

Maybe if early-missile playstyle similar to Saetta version were added... it might be placed at BR4.7 due to its limited anti-ship firepower capability... 

 

BUT that's just my guess

The RIM-24 Tartar missile is radar-guided anti-aircraft only, has a range of 14km.

[Guest]

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Edited September 3, 2020 by Guest

[Milocat 4,842]

+1 since missiles are coming.

[Conte_Baracca 4,547]

Doesn't even need the missiles at first.  Looks like a fun ship regardless.

[SturmWerwolf 793]

+1 The Indomito and Impavido are really nice looking ships. 

[Охраняет-Камни 6,650]

+1 would be also interesting to see A.106 on it as an option)

[Cabaen 183]

Since the Tartar is now in "developing" phase maybe we can have this in the future, the main issue will be the br since only 2 127mm cannons and 4 75mm are at best 4.0 material. In order to reach a better br the tartar system must be allowed to target surface targets, with that a br of 4.7 can be achieved.

[ZackZooter 55]

On 30/08/2020 at 20:58, mc205v said:

The RIM-24 Tartar missile is radar-guided anti-aircraft only, has a range of 14km.

Even without Tartar missile radar-guided, its 2 twin 127mm gun are USA made which means that basically weaker Sumner OR Gearing in term of surface firepower and those guns are really deadly if not the deadliest... Also... Its secondary's which found on HMS Peacock, Albatros & Sparviero are a deterrent for early JETs level...

 

On 07/06/2022 at 18:33, Cabaen said:

Since the Tartar is now in "developing" phase maybe we can have this in the future, the main issue will be the br since only 2 127mm cannons and 4 75mm are at best 4.0 material. In order to reach a better br the tartar system must be allowed to target surface targets, with that a br of 4.7 can be achieved.

Basically speaking, it cannot be BR 4.7 unless Tartar missile can be "made" to target surface target alongside aircraft.. TO be fair on aircraft on that BR, WW2 plane should be "made" low-IR detectable for that missile function UNLESS gaijin made that Tartar missile manually guided like Saetta instead.. BR 4.3 is quite close though unless Gaijin adds anti-submarine firepower function so ASROC and the like can be quite interesting gameplay w/out breaking the system eventually

[Cabaen 183]

15 minutes ago, ZackZooter said:

Even without Tartar missile radar-guided, its 2 twin 127mm gun are USA made which means that basically weaker Sumner OR Gearing in term of surface firepower and those guns are really deadly if not the deadliest... Also... Its secondary's which found on HMS Peacock, Albatros & Sparviero are a deterrent for early JETs level...

 

Basically speaking, it cannot be BR 4.7 unless Tartar missile can be "made" to target surface target alongside aircraft.. TO be fair on aircraft on that BR, WW2 plane should be "made" low-IR detectable for that missile function UNLESS gaijin made that Tartar missile manually guided like Saetta instead.. BR 4.3 is quite close though unless Gaijin adds anti-submarine firepower function so ASROC and the like can be quite interesting gameplay w/out breaking the system eventually

The Rim24 Tartar is semi active radar guided, you will drive them like the Nettuno missiles of the Saetta (the nettunos are beam riders too). The Tartar has 59 kg of HE warhead, against the 35 kg of SAP warhead of the Nettuno,

Edited June 8, 2022 by Cabaen

[ZackZooter 55]

9 hours ago, Cabaen said:

The Rim24 Tartar is semi active radar guided, you will drive them like the Nettuno missiles of the Saetta (the nettunos are beam riders too). The Tartar has 59 kg of HE warhead, against the 35 kg of SAP warhead of the Nettuno,

That's good to hear... Only 1 thing left, is IF gaijin willing to "make" it work like Saetta in game... 

 

Even so, with current game mechanic, Saetta & Freccia deserve to be downtiered to BR 4.3 & 4.0 respectively due to its main guns tend to disperse wider the longer it fires unlike older BoFors which would only fire slower despite not having HEVT shell..... 

------- Saetta downtiered to BR 4.3 while Freccia down to BR 4.0 UNLESS Gaijin allows the use of 3 BoFors & 2 torpedo with minimal performance penalty which could make it to BR 4.3 at best....

 

WHY,,, during the older days, player JUST need to spray even 20mm guns on the destroyer Sumner and a few seconds later almost all their crew down from that spray BUT these days that was changed to be more realistic, i think... the only way to spray kill on DD rapidly is IF there are weaponry on the ship that could fire 60 rounds per minute at the gun caliber of at least 10inch guns WHICH basically nonexistent... I'm guessing that what it means if player hoping the OLDER mechanics to be back...

[Aerobane 4,140]

Well with the USS Douglas having Tartars, there is no reason not to include a vessel like this in the Italian tree!

 

It would have been great before, but now it would be even better. At a high BR (5.3?), the light main armament of 1 twin 5"/38 mount would counteract the tartar missiles.

 

Please gaijin! If you won't give us a better battleship at least let us have a cool destroyer before people are slinging harpoons...

Edited June 27, 2022 by Aerobane

[ItalianAce02 40]

+1 yes. Only yes

[Охраняет-Камни 6,650]

Are these missiles the same as on new US boat?

[Fireraid233 4,273]

3 hours ago, _Condottiero_ said:

Are these missiles the same as on new US boat?

Yes RIM-24 

[mc205v 786]

On 08/08/2022 at 00:52, _Condottiero_ said:

Are these missiles the same as on new US boat?

 

On 08/08/2022 at 04:20, Fireraid233 said:

Yes RIM-24 

It can carry up to 40 RIM-24 Tartar missiles.

[Fireraid233 4,273]

On 09/08/2022 at 09:51, mc205v said:

 

It can carry up to 40 RIM-24 Tartar missiles.

yes its using the MK.13 launcher can reload every 8 seconds if they model the missiles they would need to add respective counters to other nations most allied nations used these as well. but that depends if Gaijin wants to go deep into the missile age of naval.

[TheEasternSpy 57]

This still hasn't been passed to devs??? +1 

[Conte_Baracca 4,547]

We need this destroyer so bad.

[ZackZooter 55]

YEAHHH... add this ship too after WT have at least 1 or 2 more missile destroyer in game with PR56K Bravvy.. I hope Britain and Japanese would be next after USA but any ship with missiles on other navy is fine too by the way after La Royale update..

 

To add some, overall this ship would be suitable to serve BR 4.7 in rank 3 at least due to its combat capability are quite weaker than PR56K and USS Gyatt on gun-based duel alone, even if this ship has OTO 76mm gun found on HMS Peacock and ability to use main & secondary simultaneously, it can barely fend for itself against cruiser with low-level firepower..

 

Again, PR56K and USS Gyatt deserve 5.0 in the future as both ship can only fire 2 missile at one time and was mentioned that it takes a long time to reload HENCE its combat capability are not GOOD ENOUGH to be 5.3 currently + its not specialized ship killing missile or cruise missile or even hypersonic anti-tank missile anyway to be fit above 5.0 for now