Panzer IV Ausf. D mit 5 cm KwK 39 L/60

[Ghostmaxi 873]

In July 1941 after the German forces encountered the new T 34 and Kv 1 their main Tank and anti tank guns (3,7 cm KwK/PaK 36 L/45, 5 cm KwK 38 L/42 and 7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24) werent enove to effectivly or at all penetrate their armor. Because of that Hitler ordered Krupp to mount a long 5 cm Cannon on a Panzer IV, this resulted of the creation of a Panzer IV Ausf. D with a 5 cm KwK 39 L/60. The prototype was to be completed by November 1941. The new Gun improved the Firepower of the Pz IV a lot on cost of explosive filler and overall anti infatry efficency. While the installation of this gun proved to be feasible and there was a planned production run of 80 vehicles by the spring of 1942, the whole project was canceled, because the new tank versions of the Pak 40 slowly began to be manufactured (7,5 cm KwK 40 L/43). Because of these main advatages of more explocive filler and better armor penetration after field tests have shown that the 5 cm gun wasnt the best choice against T 34 and Kv tanks they chose the 7,5 cm gun over the 5 cm gun.

 

Its place in game would be ether depending where it would land in the main TT in group with the Pz IV Ausf. E or as a Premium TT at Rank 2.0-2.3

Its Reasoning would be to show more of the move from Infantrie Support vehicle to Anti Tank Vehicle (L/24 -> L/43/48)

It would also be an alternative for firepower to the Pz III J or Marder III, having more firepower than the Pz III J but less armor (see below)
 

 

 

 

 

The armor Profile of the Pz IV D but without the extra armor as it is an early model and not the late variant as shown on the Armor thickness Picture, but have been possibly up armored later.

Specifications
Dimensions (l-w-h)	5.92 x 2.83 x 2.68 m (17.7 x 6.11, 8.7 in)
Total weight, battle-ready	20 tonnes
Crew	5 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Radio Operator and Driver)
Propulsion	Maybach HL 120 TR(M) 300 hp @ 3000 rpm
Speed (road/off road)	42 km/h, 25 km/h (cross country)
Range (road/off road)-fuel	210 km, 130 km (cross country)
Primary Armament	5 cm KwK 39 L/60
Secondary Armament	Two 7.92 mm MG 34
Elevation	-10° to +20°
Turret Armor	Front 30 mm, sides 20 mm, rear 20 and top 8-10 mm
Hull Armor	Front 50 mm, sides 20 mm, rear 14.5-20 mm and the top and bottom 10-11 mm   Sources: https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/germany/panzer_iv_ausfd Jentz and Doyle Panzer Tracts 4

[ItssLuBu 1,798]

Approved and open for discussion. 

[eleks12 1,079]

+1

[qpranger 1,887]

Want.

[Valcour 1,141]

Very nice!  +1

 

[ManOfHarlech 4,428]

I believe there's no need to place this tank in the TT as there already is enough tanks to play with. I'd rather like to see it as an event vehicle. It's a unique and low rank vehicle, therefore an ideal lesser reward, IMHO...

[Milocat 4,854]

+1 for sure.  I love the 5cm gun and the Panzer IV, what's not to love here?

[Wolf_89 2,525]

Another easy model i wish Gaijin would add.

Since we have most of the parts for this tank in the game already.

[Cpt_Jack_Irons 464]

+1 a simple vehicle that would be nice to see ingame

[ajmod73 0]

Want because... PANZER VOR!!!!!!!11!111!1!11!

[SturmWerwolf 793]

+1 The Pz.III J and Pz.III L have gotta be some of my favorite low tier tanks. I'd imagine this would fit perfectly in the middle. It'd could also make for a good premium like the Pz.III N. 

[january19 57]

+1

[SnakeMantis007@psn 30]

I had no knowledge of this variant. Now, I want it.

 

+1

[Jarms 1,558]

I remember posting this idea over on Reddit years ago, never had the time to make an actual suggestion. I'm glad someone else did. 

[kingoftigertank 73]

how has this varient of the panzer 4 not already been implemented into the game already?

[Raiden_Black 1,875]

If this is was pre-Cold War War Thunder time (pre Leo or M60 time), then Gaijin would've made this premium.
But now?
Either a low tier event/BP or a TT.

[hienapunk 1,064]

+1 as a link between long and short barrel 4f

[sdkfz22222 9]

+1 Why not? They give us every gun variant of the t-34 ever made 75mm, 85mm, 57mm, 100mm. Germany’s World War Two workhorse deserves the same treatment.