atv NORINCO 6x6 CS / VP16B, Multi-purpose all-terrain vehicles

[super_cacti 1,071]

Hello ladies and gentlemen, today I'd like to suggest the very interesting NORINCO 6x6 Multi-purpose all-terrain vehicles!

 

A whole range of CS / VP16B variants during a demonstration

 

Description

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The NORINCO 6x6 Multi-purpose all-terrain vehicles is known under the official name CS / VP16B.

 

This ATV was born from the NORINCO 8x8 CS / VP4, be sure to check out my post on those vehicles first!

 

In its basic configuration, the multi-purpose transporter NORINCO Lynx CS / VP16B 6x6 is a compact car on a three-axle all-wheel drive chassis. In general, the basic principles of the previous project are preserved in the new project, but the design of the hull, chassis and transmission are changed. At the same time, the overall dimensions of the machine do not change. Recycling the chassis leads to a change in the gaps between the wheels, but does not affect the overall dimensions of the vehicle. As before, several variants of the case are used with the possibility of mounting different equipment.

 

In all versions of the new chassis has the same design, partly borrowed from the previous project. The front part of the hull is assigned to a double open cockpit. Behind it is the engine compartment. Above the bottom of the hull, under the cabin floor, are transmission units that provide four-wheel drive. Aft compartment is given for the installation of the target equipment. There you can place a cargo-passenger volume or a platform for mounting artillery systems.

 

According to known data, the entire Lynx family is completed with an engine of about 100 hp. The drive of three bridges is provided by a mechanical transmission. A three-axle chassis with individual wheel suspension is capable of providing sufficient throughput. However, the hull lines and small diameter of the wheels may limit such capabilities of the equipment. The body is sealed and allows the machine to float. Separate propeller is not provided, the movement of the water is provided by the rotation of the wheels.

 

Variants

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Quick disclaimer!

As is expected of new Chinese equipment, details regarding them is very limited. These variants have been indentified by looking at photos of the vehicles.

Also supposedly each different variant is given it's own name. So the names given to the vehicles by me are just general names which explain the role they are made for.

 

MLRS versions

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12 tube 107mm MLRS

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This first MLRS carries a rather small amount of rockets, but it's capable of carrying a second pack of 12 rockets on the deck just behind the driver and commander.

 

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Unlike the previous sample of the Lynx family, This one uses a smaller launcher. Now the volley consists of 12 shots. The missiles are located in tubular launch canisters connected in a package with two horizontal rows. After the volley, the package is discarded, and in its place is installed a new one transported on the roof of the engine compartment.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

14 tube unknown caliber MLRS

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This is one of the more mysterious version of which we just have a photo.

Compared to the previous MLRS version. this one has got much larger rockets, and also carried 14 of them.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

Mortar versions

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82mm Mortar

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This is a rather interesting looking mortar system. Details on the gun are very limited ofcourse, but we can assume that it only has HE-type shells.

 

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Recently, the public was shown two self-propelled mortars with armament caliber 82 and 120 mm. The 82mm Mortar has a large barrel length and is mounted on a remote-controlled installation. The barrel is placed inside a protective casing with a characteristic futuristic look. Much of the gun control operations are carried out remotely. On the sides of the mortar installation boxes are located ammunition.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

120mm Mortar

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This mortar version is not something that we would even see ingame, but still cool to look at. 

Maybe something for AI's to drive around with.

 

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Recently, the public was shown two self-propelled mortars with armament caliber 82 and 120 mm. The self-propelled mortar with the 120mm gun has a shorter shaft and is equipped with recoil devices of a different design. This preserves the automated control system. Larger 120-mm mines are proposed to be transported in the cells of individual boxes installed above the engine compartment and on the cargo platform.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

 

SPAA versions

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3 barrel 12.7mm W85 Gatling gun SPAA

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This might not be a proper SPAA, but it's 12.7mm gatling gun would sure be able to down a few aircraft here and there.

 

As can be seen in the GIF, this one is being used to test remote controll functions.

But altough it is not visible in the photos, there is still room for a driver and commander, so ingame these can still be put in.

 

The gun is noted as being the W85 Gatling gun

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

6 barrel 23mm Gatling gun SPAA

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This SPAA version fades more into the mysterious side of the history pages. This version, like the previously mentioned SPAA version, seems to be testing remote controll functions. Although the seats for the driver and commander are still present so this remote function is not needed ingame.

 

The 23mm galting gun seems to be the same one used on the next SPAA version.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

6 barrel 23mm Gatling gun & Anti-Air missile SPAA

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This is where the very small little ATV becomes a big problem to aircraft. This SPAA version has got four SAM missiles and a 23mm gatling gun!

Altough the small size of the vehicle does mean the ammo is rather limited, and there do not seem to be spare missiles present on the vehicle.

 

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Previously, the family of vehicles from NORINCO included self-propelled anti-aircraft installation with an automatic gun. In the new line-up based on the CS / VP16B chassis, there is also a similar sample, but it received a seriously redesigned combat module. On the cargo platform of such a machine is mounted a U-shaped swivel base with a swinging unit, equipped with a six-barreled 23-mm gun.

On board the base is a rocking launcher for guided missiles. As before, a block of optoelectronic equipment is used to search for targets and target weapons.

 

Such an anti-aircraft missile and cannon complex is capable of controlling airspace within a radius of several kilometers. However, in many ways, including combat, it can be inferior to other modern models of its class, carrying more advanced weapons.

 

Which exact missiles this SPAA uses is not known. I would be tempted to say they are 9K38 Igla's of some kind.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

 

SAM SPAA (Old version)

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This is the last of the very mysterious versions. We only got one photo of this one.

 

We can see that it's a SAM version with four missiles. It's got a detection radar on the top, and a tracking radar on the front.

Going of from what I could find online, they seem to be FN-6 missiles.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

SAM SPAA (New version)

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Here we see (What I believe to be) a continuation of the previous anti-air version. But now the missile launcher seems to be a bit bigger and more sophisticated.

 

The launcher has got a detection radar on the top, and a tracking radar on the front, together with four FN-6 anti-air missiles on the left side of the point. 

The right side of the laucnehr is the interference antenna.

 

The vehicle is capable of intercepting armed helicopters, low-flying drones and fighter jets within 6 kilometers.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

Anti-Tank & SPG versions

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20mm & Anti-Tank missile

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This one was rather hard to figure out, so almost all of what I'm about to tell you is pieced together by me, and not backed up by sources.

 

This is another new version that was recently announched. It seems to have a very light, remote controlled weapons station. At first I was rather confused wether or not this version was an anti-tank of anti-air vehicle. But looking at the two missle tubes, and comparing them with the tubes seen on the 30mm vehicle after this one, I determined that the missiles are of the same type. (The missile type is not known, but we do know that they are third-generation anti-tank missiles)

 

The lack of radar futher confirms my suspicion. 

 

We do see some sort of gunner or thermal sight to the left of the gun. And speaking of the gun, I do not even know if it is indeed a 20mm gun, or maybe some kind of heavy machine gun. But the overall size of the gun seems about right for a 20mm.

 

 

30mm & Anti-Tank missle

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Here we have a real support role version of the 6x6. It's armed with a 30mm gun (Judging from the gun barrel, it's the same gun as the VN-1C IFV), and has two additional anti-tank missiles. The missile type is not known, but we do know that they are third-generation anti-tank missiles.

 

The turret is remote controlled, and has acces to a thermal imaging photoelectric sighting device with peripheral vision capability. 

 

This version of the 6x6 will be a real annoyance on the battlefield, with it's small size and pwoerfull punch. The only downside is that the Driver and Command sit in the front, so they might block the guns ability to fire forwards.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

40mm SPG (Manned turret)

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A 40mm gun being called a SPG is not something you might have seen comming. But then again on such a small vehicle, anything above 20mm would already make it a SPG version of this ATV.

 

The 40mm gun is mounted on a rotating platform and seems to have a whole set of optics and equipment. Another thing to note is that the gun can be fired remotely, but it has been build with a gunner in mind. A second seat might also be present on the other side of the gun.

If this gun has access to radar of some kind and proxy fuse shells, then that would make this a SPAA instead of a SPG, but so far we've only seen it fire straight forwards, and not into the air.

 

Going from what I could find from a source, the gun stats are as follows:

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The domestically made 40mm countersunk armor-piercing projectile currently has the ability to penetrate 130-140mm homogeneous steel armor at an engagement distance of 1000 to 1500 meters

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

 

40mm & Anti-Tank missle (Remote turret)

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This is one of the newest variants we've seen so far. 

 

This is a continuation of the previous 40mm version, only now the gun sits in a remote controlled turret, and has two additional anti-tank missiles! The missile type is not known, but we do know that they are third-generation anti-tank missiles.

Going from a source talking about this vehicle, we get this about the gun:

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The domestically made 40mm countersunk armor-piercing projectile currently has the ability to penetrate 130-140mm homogeneous steel armor at an engagement distance of 1000 to 1500 meters

That together with the missiles will make this machine a real threat on the battlefield. The only downside it has is that the driver and commander sit in the front, and block the forward rotating of the remote controlled turret. So you will have to play it smart!

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

120mm SPG

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This very big gun on this very small ATV looks really silly, but it does work!

The gun can traverse to the left and right only a little bit, and need these stabalizer legs to deal with the recoil.

 

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The gun mount provides horizontal guidance within a limited sector, but can raise the barrel to significant angles. According to known data, in the composition of the ACS is used universal gun caliber 120 mm, capable of performing the functions of a gun, howitzers and mortars. It is built on the basis of a large trunk length, equipped with a developed muzzle brake and mounted on recoil devices.

 

If you have any additional information that can be of use please let me know!

 

 

 

 

 

Quick list of general specifications

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Length: 3,94 m (12ft 11in)

Width: 1,55 m (5ft 1in)

Height: 1,8 m (5ft 11 in)

Engine horse power: around a 100 Hp

Top Speed on land: 65 km/h (40 mph)

Top Speed in water: 4 km/h (2,5 mph)

Total Crew: In most cases 2, but for on versions with heavier weapons there is room for up to 4

Weapons: Check the Variants section 

 

Ingame

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From an ingame point of view these vehicles would be very odd and derpy.

 

If Gaijin does decide to add these in, I would think they are best kept in their own dedicated line filled with only vehicles like these. They are just so weird that they don't really fit in well anywhere else.

Ofcourse some of them can also be used as premiums or event vehicles.

 

But be sure to let me know your opinions in the poll and comment section!

 

That is all for now! Be sure to tell me your opinion on these vehicles!

 

See you on the battlefield! 

 

Be sure to check out my other post about the small Chinese ATV's:

 

Sources

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Primary sources:

https://en.topwar.ru/149777-semejstvo-mashin-norinco-lynx-cs-vp16b-6x6-sau-i-rszo-na-legkom-shassi.html

https://card.weibo.com/article/m/show/id/2309404307003987091195?_wb_client_=1&object_id=1022%3A2309404307003987091195&extparam=lmid--4307003994055772&luicode=10000011&lfid=1076031873372103

https://newstimes.net.cn/other/35704.html

 

Secondairy sources:

https://twitter.com/jesusfroman/status/1449278822596153351

https://dambiev.livejournal.com/1361682.html

 

Extra sources:

https://www.armyrecognition.com/airshow_china_2018_zhuhai_news_show_daily_coverage/analysis_norinco_light_vehicles_displayed_at_zhuhai_airshow_2018.html

https://www.joint-forces.com/features/21779-chinese-armour-at-zhuhai-air-show-2018

 

Edited January 4, 2022 by super_cacti
Added the newest verisons of the 6x6.

[leroyonly 4,310]

Open for discussion. 

[WayOfTheWolk 1,573]

I'll admit you got me with the cover photo. I really thought you were proposing vehicles made out of lego blocks for a minute. Now that would be something!  

[jet_17_49 411]

+1 for all the rotary gun/cannon variants, would be amusing to see them get hilariously low BR placements and make low tier axis players rage quit en masse.

[super_cacti 1,071]

3 hours ago, WayOfTheWolk said:

I'll admit you got me with the cover photo. I really thought you were proposing vehicles made out of lego blocks for a minute. Now that would be something!  

 

To be honest you could make them out of Lego pretty easily 

 

3 hours ago, jetnawk said:

+1 for all the rotary gun/cannon variants, would be amusing to see them get hilariously low BR placements and make low tier axis players rage quit en masse.

 

Ah hell yeah! R3 T20 all over again 

[WulfPack 1,693]

+1 for the SPAAs and the 40mm SPG

[OddPhenomena 1,015]

I'll take your whole stock! I love the look of the Gatling gun ones, +1 for me.

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

[bingdingboomow 29]

100% absolutely yes 

[eleks12 1,079]

+1 

[Milocat 4,848]

The only ones I'm unsure about are the mortar vehicles, as I'm not sure we have any of them in the game yet (maybe I'm wrong) and the 12.7mm SPAA one because of how anachronistically low it would be tiered.  I support and would love to see all the rest.  

[CubicSquare 156]

That 40mm is something I need in game. +1!

[super_cacti 1,071]

Turns out, more versions of the 6x6 had been announched some time ago. So I've added them to the post.

 

In the spoiler below you can find the newest onces:

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20mm + anti-tank missiles

 

30mm + anti-tank missiles

 

40mm + anti-tank missiles

 

New version of the SAM SPAA

 

Edited January 5, 2022 by super_cacti

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

+1, though not much of a prioeity for china rn. Would love to see the autocannon-equipped vehicles though, can't wait for the legendary R3-T20, Wiesel, and RCV battle againsr these things 

Edited January 4, 2022 by NAYEONnaise

[thethrill820@live 292]

23 minutes ago, NAYEONnaise said:

+1, though not much of a prioeity for china rn. Would love to see the autocannon-equipped vehicles though, can't wait for the legendary R3-T20, Wiesel, and RCV battle againsr these things 

 +1 oh god no

[霧 丹爪モ匕口丂 靄 466]

1 for all except 12.7mm gatling variation 

All the other variant would be fun to use ingame

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

1:12-1:16 these things can perfectly neutral traverse too!

[super_cacti 1,071]

9 hours ago, NAYEONnaise said:

1:12-1:16 these things can perfectly neutral traverse too!

 

Oh cool! So they steer just like Skid Loaders do. By simply making the wheels rotate in a different way. That is why they can neutral steer, because it works just like they do on tanks.

If you want to go left you just make the wheels on the left side stop, and keep the wheels on the right moving forwards.

 

 

Edited January 10, 2022 by super_cacti

[DoneDirtCheap 370]

+1 for the spaa and atgm versions of these.

See no reasons for them not to be added when the Wiesels/Ozelot are already in game.