Planned Battle Rating changes - 17.08.2021

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• Planned Battle Rating changes have been implemented

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Information from previous topic:

 

Firstly, regarding Naval Forces. In this release, we did not make any changes to the fleet's BR, but we still received very noticeable requests from you, including the separation of battleships from cruisers.

 

The answer to them is this: we are working to raise the fleet's BR ceiling. Stay tuned for news and thanks for your feedback..

 

Some additional changes from your feedback:

 

Based on your feedback, the planed change of the Leopard 2PL and T-90 was reconsidered and will now remain at their current BR.

 

The IPM1 will also undergo ammunition changes as a result of its new BR.  M735 and M774 will be removed. M833 will be moved from IV - I tier and M900 will be introduced into IV tier modifications.

 

The 76 Jumbo Sherman will not increase and will remain at its current BR.

 

Ariete - BR will be reduced from 11.0 to 10.7 (RB)

 

Panzer IVG (Italy) - BR will be reduced from 4.3 to 4.0 (AB) and 3.7 from 4.0 (RB)

Some responses on several discussed vehicles:

 

M1A1 - At its current BR and position, the M1A1 is performing at an acceptable level without any immediate indications it is in need of ammunition changes or other adjustments. We have received several suggestions for new ammunition / upgrade packages which we are aware of. But at this time, the tank shows no indication of a lack of performance compared to other contemporaries. If a situation arises after the current planned changes are implemented where upon the next review, the tank has dropped as a result, various options can be considered and we will closely follow the situation. But this will of course depend on a review of its position after we have had some time to review the effects of the current changes with the IPM1.

 

Black Prince - A common suggestion is for this vehicle to be lowered in BR in Realistic Battles. Currently however, among all Heavy and Medium tanks in RB, at rank IV, this vehicle has the highest efficiency compared to its counterparts. At this time, the vehicle is currently not in any position to receive a lower BR based on how it is currently performing. 

 

AMX-50 Surblindé - Currently this vehicle is performing more effectively than than its peer, the AMX-50 Surbaissé, despite the later being at a lower rating. So a reduction for the Surblindé would be illogical given the performance of both machines currently in game.

 

French Roland 1 - The French Roland currently has an efficiency equal to that of the French Crotale NG and higher than the German FlaRakPz. As such, there is no need to introduce any further ammunition upgrades to this machine at present that would further boost its performance when it is currently already at above sufficient levels. 

 

Strf 9040 BILL - A lot of comparisons have been raised about specific attributes of this vehicle compared to others of a similar class / nature. It is important to understand that a vehicle can be inferior to the individual vehicle with which it is compared, by some values or attributes, but at the same time have an efficiency that is still higher than the average on its BR. In this case, the Strf 9040's efficiency exceeds both Bradley and Dardo.

 

 

Centurion Mk 5 AVRE has become even more dangerous with the introduction of the overpressure mechanic in War Thunder. Its 165 mm cannon is now very difficult to resist, so in Arcade battles (where it is much easier to aim with it), the vehicle will be slightly increased. From 7.3 to 7.7. Tanks with guns with low ballistic performance have a number of disadvantages (aimed shooting at long distances, projectile flight time and its trajectory), which create problems in Realistic battles. Such units are much more effective in arcade battles, and most often they have weapons that shoot powerful high-explosive shells, one hit of which, on average, is enough to destroy most opponents at its rank and even higher. At the moment, Centurion has shown itself to be a very effective tank in AB at the current battle rating and therefore deservedly moves to the "major league", that is, gets a higher battle rating. This tank will not lose its destructive power, but some of the tanks, which were frankly weak in the event of encounters with it, will receive some improvement in the situation.

 

IS-6 - Some of your comments mentioned a decrease in survivability with the appearance of an increasing number of opponents with HEAT shells. The statistics agree with this and the tank will be reduced in RB. 

 

We also received comments on the effectiveness of the T-55AM-1. Our data suggests that the machine is efficient and in place. But the standard T-55A will be reduced to 8.0. AM-1 is currently performing as intended at 8.3, having an efficiency indicator corresponding to the average value at its rank. But having paid attention to the T-55A, we observe its significantly lagging behind in efficiency from the T-55AM-1, with an equal number of battles fought. Therefore, it was decided not to change the rating of the T-55AM-1 with balanced efficiency, but to reduce the combat rating of the T-55A. Along with it, the American M60A1 AOS and the German 48A2 GA2, which are somewhat inferior in efficiency to the T-55A.

 

In fact, we have considered many more of your proposals, but there are several that greatly conflict. For example, although the premium German TAM 2IP differs from the researchable TAM in terms of performance characteristics and weapons, this does not help the indicated light tank, and statistically both vehicles are very close.

 

Separately, we would like to touch upon the issue of reduction for the T-34-85 (D-5T). To explain this, let's use a simple comparison with vehicles on the same Battle Rating. For the D-5T modification, these are the Tiger H1 and Panther D, the effectiveness of which, according to statistics, is at the level of similar heavy and medium tanks. At the same time, the effectiveness of the T-38-85 (D-5T) is noticeably inferior to other medium tanks on its BR, and this is the main reason for the decrease in the BR of this particular vehicle. You also actively recommended lowering the Battle rating for similar modifications of the famous T-34, since some of them are not much different from the version in question (D-5T). In fact, the differences turned out to be significant, which ultimately significantly affects the overall efficiency in battle, and with it, the statistics, the gap between which is noticeable. These same variants are doing rather well statistically, so they do not require changes from their current BRs at this time.

Aviation

Spitfire Mk 24 - Will remain at its current BR, but we will closely monitor the efficiency of this aircraft. As a number of aircraft have changed near this BR, we will retain the current BR and review the situation in the next BR update. If it remains high in efficiency, it will be increased. 

 

Similarly, the  Me 163 B-0 Will remain at its current BR, but we will also closely follow the efficiency of this aircraft. 

 

Ki-84 Hei - Will remain at its current BR. But again, will be monitored for next time.

 

AV-8A - Will be increased to 9.7 BR based on your feedback.

 

A6M5s otsu/hei - Currently, these aircraft are the leaders in terms of efficiency in their battle ratings. As such, the planned increase will take place.

 

Kikka - This aircraft currently suits its BR in terms of its characteristics and performance.

 

CL-13 Mk.4 - Currently this aircraft has one of the best efficiencies for its BR. So a decrease is currently not possible. 

 

H-34 (France and USA) - Will be lowered to 8.0 based on your feedback. 

 

The final amendment will be the reduction in RB for the EC-665 Tiger HAP helicopter, which is good in terms of characteristics, but its main anti-tank weapon - the HOT-3 ATGM is inferior in performance characteristics to analogues of the armed Hellfire. Decreased from 10.3 to 10.0.

 
Simulator Specific:

 

G.91 YS will receive a decrease in Simulator mode from 9.7 to 9.3 due to the lack of radar and RWRs, which at the 7th rank of ED are already a necessity and not just a pleasant bonus. 

 

J-7II is a licensed Chinese copy of the MiG-21F-13. Although the Chinese fighter received slightly more powerful engines and another 30mm cannon, we agree that the gap in the Battle rating of the Simulator mode between 10.3 for the J-7II and 9.7 for the MiG-21F-13 is too large. The Chinese J-7II will receive a BR reduction.

 

F-104G (China) and F-104J (Japan) - The vehicles are nearly identical in overall performance, but the BR of the Chinese in SB is 0.3 units higher. We will reduce the BR, the Chinese F-104G in SB.

 

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