Posted March 15, 2022 Fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: 4 AIM-9Ls are more than sufficient for top tier. The F-104S was give 9Js on the link between Turkish F-104S for balance reasons. The same does not apply to the ASA as it has the 9L. Which is more than ok for top tier. It's not possible to have the cannon and Aspides. Thank you very much for the clarification. Do we have any news regarding the Radar issue? Edited March 15, 2022 by S__bastienZ88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Suggestion Moderator yoyolast 1,708 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Smin1080p said: Right now a combination with AIM-9B is not being considered as it would be fairly redundant at the very top BR I disagree with the redundancy claim, having the additional AIM-9Bs on the aircraft can be useful in a couple of ways: Having a loadout with both AIM-9Bs and AIM-9Ls will allow ASA players to fake out people with the AIM-9Bs causing them to dump flares and sacrafice energy fearing the missile might be a potent one. You could use the additional AIM-9Bs to get a couple of AI kills to lessen ticket drain and get some extra score. If at all possible I hope you can reevaluate this choice. Edited March 15, 2022 by yoyolast 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... ChuckNorrisROU 5 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: 4 AIM-9Ls are more than sufficient for top tier. The F-104S was give 9Js on the link between Turkish F-104S for balance reasons. The same does not apply to the ASA as it has the 9L. Which is more than ok for top tier. It's not possible to have the cannon and Aspides. But 4X Aim9L + cannon is possible?And on the lower front hardpoints is there a posibility for bombs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, S__bastienZ88 said: Do we have any news regarding the Radar issue? We are aware it had a LD mode. However it's perimeters, which are key to it's introduction, are not yet fully known. There is a lack of detial In this area. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: We are aware it had a LD mode. However it's perimeters, which are key to it's introduction, are not yet fully known. There is a lack of detial In this area. If you would be a little more precise on what data you need the community might help seeing that the we have the entire flight manual and maintenance manual on our hands, I see it hard that it is impossible to find what you need in those two documents. rather than trying to help Italian top tier looks like Gaijin is trying its best to make the only Italian top tier jet **** could you please give us more informations before the vehicle hits the live server? Because otherwise it will take ages to get fixed Edited March 15, 2022 by arpitmkn 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Nicholas_Concu 2,634 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: We are aware it had a LD mode. However it's perimeters, which are key to it's introduction, are not yet fully known. There is a lack of detial In this area. What is currently missing? We can rally up and find as much info as possible on it so it can get added before it hits the live servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, arpitmkn said: rather than trying to help Italian top tier looks like Gaijin is trying its best to make the only Italian top tier jet **** This is unhelpful to the situation in every capacity. We have already explained how almost everything raised so far with the exception of the radar was down to preliminary tuning on the Dev server. Coming at this with a negative attitude for negatives sake is not going to help. 19 minutes ago, Nicholas_Concu said: What is currently missing? We can rally up and find as much info as possible on it so it can get added before it hits the live servers. Generally it's performance capabilities. We don't have any details on how it's look down mode works, it's limits, range etc. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... legogeorgia@psn 1,486 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: This is unhelpful to the situation in every capacity. We have already explained how almost everything raised so far with the exception of the radar was down to preliminary tuning on the Dev server. Coming at this with a negative attitude for negatives sake is not going to help. Generally it's performance capabilities. We don't have any details on how it's look down mode works, it's limits, range etc. So the radar performance in the first dev was only temporary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, yoyolast said: I disagree with the redundancy claim, having the additional AIM-9Bs on the aircraft can be useful in a couple of ways: Having a loadout with both AIM-9Bs and AIM-9Ls will allow ASA players to fake out people with the AIM-9Bs causing them to dump flares and sacrafice energy fearing the missile might be a potent one. You could use the additional AIM-9Bs to get a couple of AI kills to lessen ticket drain and get some extra score. If at all possible I hope you can reevaluate this choice. That's really interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: Coming at this with a negative attitude for negatives sake is not going to help. As it’s not helping nerfing a desperately needed (and desperately late) aircraft for the sake of some details that could be estimated like a lot of things have been estimated in game (just like the resistance to flare of missiles is just estimated and fluctuate based on the need of balance) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, arpitmkn said: As it’s not helping nerfing a desperately needed (and desperately late) aircraft for the sake of some details that could be estimated like a lot of things have been estimated in game (just like the resistance to flare of missiles is just estimated and fluctuate based on the need of balance) We are not nerfing anything. The question was asked and we have explained that whilst it is WIP a lot of key details are missing that we in fact have for other radars. This approach is not constructive and not helpful in the slightest. Let's get back on track. If you have source material to share then by all means. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Охраняет-Камни 6,650 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: Generally it's performance capabilities. We don't have any details on how it's look down mode works, it's limits, range etc. It could be worth to look through ASA-M manuals as well, because radar wasn't changed during this upgrade. We will try to find missing info. This is from one of the parts of ASA-M manual for example: Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, _Condottiero_ said: It could be worth to look through ASA-M manuals as well, because radar wasn't changed during this upgrade. We will try to find missing info. This is from one of the parts of ASA-M manual for example: Reveal hidden contents The ASA had two radars/modes one for the ASA-1A and one for the later version ASA-2A found on the ASA-M too Edited March 15, 2022 by S__bastienZ88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) @Smin1080p Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler This and more can be found in the Manuals if you are looking for such sources Edited March 15, 2022 by S__bastienZ88 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, S__bastienZ88 said: @Smin1080p Hide contents Hide contents Reveal hidden contents This and more can be found in the Manuals if you are looking for such sources Thank you. This is both manuals or just the ASA-M? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: We are not nerfing anything. The question was asked and we have explained that whilst it is WIP a lot of key details are missing that we in fact have for other radars. This approach is not constructive and not helpful in the slightest. Let's get back on track. If you have source material to share then by all means. Unfortunately due to the way the forum is set up I can’t send of the files I want because are too heavy Here some more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... TheS1up 1,452 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, ChuckNorrisROU said: @Smin1080p i wonder if we will be able to take 4X AIM9L+2X AIM9B/J + 2X Aspide(at the same time), eventually + cannon in the final build or at least the second devserver 2 hours ago, S__bastienZ88 said: It is an upgraded F104S so It can carry them without any problems. 2×Aim9L and 2×Aspide-A1 are not enough in top tier when every other jet can carry more than that. The only loadout that would make sense would be the 4×Aim9L + Vulcan 20mm. Guys chill out, the ASA has no link to Aim-9Js and i completely agree with Smin on that. We are finally receiving a top tier jet, why try to always find negative aspects? They confirmed that is going to receive CM, that it will have the new "custom loadouts" mechanic I mean what else can we ask for? 4 Aim-9Ls loadout is already really good and having 2 useless Aim-9B which only add weight is nonsense 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: Thank you. This is both manuals or just the ASA-M? This are fromt he F104S-ASA manual and the the book Coccarda Tricolori. There are more info about it the F104S-ASA, but I couldn't send it all at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... TheS1up 1,452 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Could you guys please use spoilers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, TheS1up said: Could you guys please use spoilers? Sorry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, TheS1up said: Could you guys please use spoilers? I tried! XD but I’m on the phone and the spoilers bugs out and it allows me to put only 1 file per spoiler and seeing that I’m at work I can’t spend all the afternoon putting 1 file per 1 spoiler XD 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... TheS1up 1,452 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, S__bastienZ88 said: Sorry No problem 3 minutes ago, arpitmkn said: I tried! XD but I’m on the phone and the spoilers bugs out and it allows me to put only 1 file per spoiler and seeing that I’m at work I can’t spend all the afternoon putting 1 file per 1 spoiler XD Yeah sometimes I can't use spoilers on mobile either idk why Edited March 15, 2022 by TheS1up . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheS1up said: They confirmed that is going to receive CM, that it will have the new "custom loadouts" mechanic I mean what else can we ask for? 4 Aim-9Ls loadout is already really good and having 2 useless Aim-9B which only add weight is nonsense So we can put the missiles were we want them to have bottom pylons too..?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... ChuckNorrisROU 5 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 @Smin1080p any details regarding how custom loadout system will work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Thanks to everyone that submitted sources. They have been uploaded to the existing report. 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 4 of 5 Share More sharing options... Followers 5
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: 4 AIM-9Ls are more than sufficient for top tier. The F-104S was give 9Js on the link between Turkish F-104S for balance reasons. The same does not apply to the ASA as it has the 9L. Which is more than ok for top tier. It's not possible to have the cannon and Aspides. Thank you very much for the clarification. Do we have any news regarding the Radar issue? Edited March 15, 2022 by S__bastienZ88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suggestion Moderator yoyolast 1,708 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Smin1080p said: Right now a combination with AIM-9B is not being considered as it would be fairly redundant at the very top BR I disagree with the redundancy claim, having the additional AIM-9Bs on the aircraft can be useful in a couple of ways: Having a loadout with both AIM-9Bs and AIM-9Ls will allow ASA players to fake out people with the AIM-9Bs causing them to dump flares and sacrafice energy fearing the missile might be a potent one. You could use the additional AIM-9Bs to get a couple of AI kills to lessen ticket drain and get some extra score. If at all possible I hope you can reevaluate this choice. Edited March 15, 2022 by yoyolast 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNorrisROU 5 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: 4 AIM-9Ls are more than sufficient for top tier. The F-104S was give 9Js on the link between Turkish F-104S for balance reasons. The same does not apply to the ASA as it has the 9L. Which is more than ok for top tier. It's not possible to have the cannon and Aspides. But 4X Aim9L + cannon is possible?And on the lower front hardpoints is there a posibility for bombs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, S__bastienZ88 said: Do we have any news regarding the Radar issue? We are aware it had a LD mode. However it's perimeters, which are key to it's introduction, are not yet fully known. There is a lack of detial In this area. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: We are aware it had a LD mode. However it's perimeters, which are key to it's introduction, are not yet fully known. There is a lack of detial In this area. If you would be a little more precise on what data you need the community might help seeing that the we have the entire flight manual and maintenance manual on our hands, I see it hard that it is impossible to find what you need in those two documents. rather than trying to help Italian top tier looks like Gaijin is trying its best to make the only Italian top tier jet **** could you please give us more informations before the vehicle hits the live server? Because otherwise it will take ages to get fixed Edited March 15, 2022 by arpitmkn 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas_Concu 2,634 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: We are aware it had a LD mode. However it's perimeters, which are key to it's introduction, are not yet fully known. There is a lack of detial In this area. What is currently missing? We can rally up and find as much info as possible on it so it can get added before it hits the live servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, arpitmkn said: rather than trying to help Italian top tier looks like Gaijin is trying its best to make the only Italian top tier jet **** This is unhelpful to the situation in every capacity. We have already explained how almost everything raised so far with the exception of the radar was down to preliminary tuning on the Dev server. Coming at this with a negative attitude for negatives sake is not going to help. 19 minutes ago, Nicholas_Concu said: What is currently missing? We can rally up and find as much info as possible on it so it can get added before it hits the live servers. Generally it's performance capabilities. We don't have any details on how it's look down mode works, it's limits, range etc. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legogeorgia@psn 1,486 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: This is unhelpful to the situation in every capacity. We have already explained how almost everything raised so far with the exception of the radar was down to preliminary tuning on the Dev server. Coming at this with a negative attitude for negatives sake is not going to help. Generally it's performance capabilities. We don't have any details on how it's look down mode works, it's limits, range etc. So the radar performance in the first dev was only temporary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 57 minutes ago, yoyolast said: I disagree with the redundancy claim, having the additional AIM-9Bs on the aircraft can be useful in a couple of ways: Having a loadout with both AIM-9Bs and AIM-9Ls will allow ASA players to fake out people with the AIM-9Bs causing them to dump flares and sacrafice energy fearing the missile might be a potent one. You could use the additional AIM-9Bs to get a couple of AI kills to lessen ticket drain and get some extra score. If at all possible I hope you can reevaluate this choice. That's really interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: Coming at this with a negative attitude for negatives sake is not going to help. As it’s not helping nerfing a desperately needed (and desperately late) aircraft for the sake of some details that could be estimated like a lot of things have been estimated in game (just like the resistance to flare of missiles is just estimated and fluctuate based on the need of balance) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, arpitmkn said: As it’s not helping nerfing a desperately needed (and desperately late) aircraft for the sake of some details that could be estimated like a lot of things have been estimated in game (just like the resistance to flare of missiles is just estimated and fluctuate based on the need of balance) We are not nerfing anything. The question was asked and we have explained that whilst it is WIP a lot of key details are missing that we in fact have for other radars. This approach is not constructive and not helpful in the slightest. Let's get back on track. If you have source material to share then by all means. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Охраняет-Камни 6,650 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: Generally it's performance capabilities. We don't have any details on how it's look down mode works, it's limits, range etc. It could be worth to look through ASA-M manuals as well, because radar wasn't changed during this upgrade. We will try to find missing info. This is from one of the parts of ASA-M manual for example: Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, _Condottiero_ said: It could be worth to look through ASA-M manuals as well, because radar wasn't changed during this upgrade. We will try to find missing info. This is from one of the parts of ASA-M manual for example: Reveal hidden contents The ASA had two radars/modes one for the ASA-1A and one for the later version ASA-2A found on the ASA-M too Edited March 15, 2022 by S__bastienZ88 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) @Smin1080p Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler This and more can be found in the Manuals if you are looking for such sources Edited March 15, 2022 by S__bastienZ88 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, S__bastienZ88 said: @Smin1080p Hide contents Hide contents Reveal hidden contents This and more can be found in the Manuals if you are looking for such sources Thank you. This is both manuals or just the ASA-M? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 37 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: We are not nerfing anything. The question was asked and we have explained that whilst it is WIP a lot of key details are missing that we in fact have for other radars. This approach is not constructive and not helpful in the slightest. Let's get back on track. If you have source material to share then by all means. Unfortunately due to the way the forum is set up I can’t send of the files I want because are too heavy Here some more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheS1up 1,452 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, ChuckNorrisROU said: @Smin1080p i wonder if we will be able to take 4X AIM9L+2X AIM9B/J + 2X Aspide(at the same time), eventually + cannon in the final build or at least the second devserver 2 hours ago, S__bastienZ88 said: It is an upgraded F104S so It can carry them without any problems. 2×Aim9L and 2×Aspide-A1 are not enough in top tier when every other jet can carry more than that. The only loadout that would make sense would be the 4×Aim9L + Vulcan 20mm. Guys chill out, the ASA has no link to Aim-9Js and i completely agree with Smin on that. We are finally receiving a top tier jet, why try to always find negative aspects? They confirmed that is going to receive CM, that it will have the new "custom loadouts" mechanic I mean what else can we ask for? 4 Aim-9Ls loadout is already really good and having 2 useless Aim-9B which only add weight is nonsense 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Smin1080p said: Thank you. This is both manuals or just the ASA-M? This are fromt he F104S-ASA manual and the the book Coccarda Tricolori. There are more info about it the F104S-ASA, but I couldn't send it all at once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheS1up 1,452 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Could you guys please use spoilers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, TheS1up said: Could you guys please use spoilers? Sorry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpitmkn 2,743 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, TheS1up said: Could you guys please use spoilers? I tried! XD but I’m on the phone and the spoilers bugs out and it allows me to put only 1 file per spoiler and seeing that I’m at work I can’t spend all the afternoon putting 1 file per 1 spoiler XD 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheS1up 1,452 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, S__bastienZ88 said: Sorry No problem 3 minutes ago, arpitmkn said: I tried! XD but I’m on the phone and the spoilers bugs out and it allows me to put only 1 file per spoiler and seeing that I’m at work I can’t spend all the afternoon putting 1 file per 1 spoiler XD Yeah sometimes I can't use spoilers on mobile either idk why Edited March 15, 2022 by TheS1up . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S__bastienZ88 635 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, TheS1up said: They confirmed that is going to receive CM, that it will have the new "custom loadouts" mechanic I mean what else can we ask for? 4 Aim-9Ls loadout is already really good and having 2 useless Aim-9B which only add weight is nonsense So we can put the missiles were we want them to have bottom pylons too..?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNorrisROU 5 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 @Smin1080p any details regarding how custom loadout system will work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smin1080p 60,444 Report post Posted March 15, 2022 Thanks to everyone that submitted sources. They have been uploaded to the existing report. 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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