(Sd. Kfz. 142/1) Sturmgeschütz III G late (Dec 1944)

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

The Sturmgeschütz III G (Sd. Kfz. 142/1) assault gun was Germany's most produced fully tracked armored fighting vehicle during World War II and the second most produced German armored combat vehicle of any type after the Sd. Kfz. 251. In War Thunder, the current Stug III G presently found in the game is an early April - May 1943 example, which you can clearly see below:

 

 

Instead of depicting a standard, common, mainstream example produced during the peak of Stug III G production, Gaijin instead has decided to provide the German faction player with an early example with weaker features such as appliqué bolted on frontal armor, no Nebelwurfgerät, no Zimmerit, no cupola shot deflector, no Topfblende mantlet, no steel return rollers, no improved tracks, no Rundumsfeuer MG 34 machine gun, no Nahverteidigungswaffe, no improved muzzle break, no external gun travel lock, no strengthened final drive, no co-axial MG 34, no Pilze, and no tow bracket. This complete lack of late improvements of any kind is a noticeable detriment to the combat effectiveness of the Stug III G in the game. In contrast to the excessively numerous and identical T-34's which proliferate this game, the German faction player has to make do with an early, single, solitary example of their most produced armored vehicle in an early configuration that is completely out of place for late war maps & events/scenarios. Therefor, I am making this topic in order to introduce a proper Stug III G example into this game, one produced during the peak of Sturmgeschütz production (Dec 1944):

 

 

This suggestion is specifically for a late war December 1944 Sturmgeschütz III G , featuring late war equipment & features. Main improvements of this late Stug III G over the current early one present in this game would be:

 

Solid 80 mm frontal hull armor

Zimmerit

Cupola protected by armored deflector

Topfblende mantlet (for more deflects)

Steel rollers

Improved tracks with increased traction

Rundumsfeuer MG 34 (to shoot at soft targets)

Nahverteidigungswaffe (for smoke)

Improved muzzle break (useful if muzzle blast/dust is modeled in this game)

Solid 80 mm frontal superstructure armor

Main weapon travel lock

Strengthened final drive

Co-axial MG 34 (to shoot at soft targets)

Pilze for 2 ton crane

Improved towing hitch

 

Some more information:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sources used:

https://www.armedconflicts.com/StuG-III-Ausf-G-t538

https://usa1lib.org/book/5560123/48871b

https://usa1lib.org/book/755865/4a50bb

https://usa1lib.org/book/1087520/ac8a27

https://usa1lib.org/book/1079512/323c0f

https://usa1lib.org/book/1146000/79fdf8

https://usa1lib.org/book/1085230/b012f7

https://usa1lib.org/book/3369639/f007b1

https://usa1lib.org/book/2060797/98330f

[kurururocks 210]

Open for discussion

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

Edited August 31, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[PenguinRed 328]

This is a nice suggestion, because I did one on the topic myself!
But because mine appears to be deleted I will support this here now   (yours is slightly more detailed)

[Milocat 4,854]

+1 for sure, would ove to see a late-model StuG!  

[qpranger 1,887]

A premium STUG is long overdue. They recently added a premium Stuka at last, so... yeah.

[Ghostmaxi 873]

1 hour ago, qpranger said:

A premium STUG is long overdue. They recently added a premium Stuka at last, so... yeah.

because they took away a He 112 ...

[qpranger 1,887]

27 minutes ago, Ghostmaxi said:

because they took away a He 112 ...

 

Not from me they didn't 

[Ghostmaxi 873]

7 minutes ago, qpranger said:

 

Not from me they didn't 

from me neather.

[JamesPond1200@psn 299]

This is fantastic! I recently posted a suggestion in the "Other Nations" section which takes this one step further with Syrian modifications. If this was added to the TT, the Syrian upgraded version could be added as a premium - something which would be fabulous. I'll link it here if you want to check it out.

https://www.forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/558753-syrian-stug-iii-g-germans-in-the-golan/

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

10 hours ago, qpranger said:

A premium STUG is long overdue.

Why on earth would this Stug III G be a premium vehicle? This is the definitive Stug III G produced during the peak of production, as such, it belongs in the standard tree....Nobody should have to grind, use eagles, use the marketplace or online store, do a battlepass, squadron vehicle, or do any other type of event to receive a standard vehicle like this one. If anything, the current, presently available early configuration/rare Stug III G that is already present in this game should be relegated to premium status....

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[qpranger 1,887]

2 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

Why on earth would this Stug III G be a premium vehicle? This is the definitive Stug III G produced during the peak of production, as such, it belongs in the standard tree....Nobody should have to grind, use eagles, use the marketplace or online store, do a battlepass, squadron vehicle, or do any other type of event to receive a standard vehicle like this one. If anything, the current, presently available early configuration/rare Stug III G that is already present in this game should be relegated to premium status....

 

 

I want premium STUG.

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

Perhaps this would be a better candidate for a premium:

 

[DMYEugen 688]

10 minutes ago, qpranger said:

 

I want premium STUG.

Based.

Edited July 14, 2022 by DMYEugen

[qpranger 1,887]

5 minutes ago, Chomusuke1 said:

Perhaps this would be a better candidate for a premium:

 

 

No, it is lame.

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

2 hours ago, qpranger said:

No, it is lame.

 

Ok, how about a Stug III G based on a Panzer III M then?:

 

Edited July 14, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[qpranger 1,887]

5 minutes ago, Chomusuke1 said:

 

Ok, how about a Stug III G based on a Panzer III M then?:

 

Now that's better.

[SnakeMantis007@psn 30]

This variant of Stug III that I expect most in the German tech tree.

 

With these slight modifications, it will be an excellent Rank III tank destroyer.

 

+1

 

[KillaKiwi 5,477]

I like it, but maybe just upgrade the current StuG III G to the later model?

Or at least folder it with the current version. I don't think that any of those changes would drastically change its performance over the current model.

Maybe just add a bunch of modification that can be unlocked.

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

On 18/07/2022 at 08:16, KillaKiwi said:

I like it, but maybe just upgrade the current StuG III G to the later model?....Maybe just add a bunch of modification that can be unlocked.

That would not be possible since it would be like adding 'a bunch of modifications that can be unlocked' for a Tiger I H and/or Su 85 to produce a Tiger I E and/or Su 85M...Doesn't work like that in the game for these two vehicles and neither should it be like that for this Stug III G...

[KillaKiwi 5,477]

8 hours ago, Chomusuke1 said:

That would not be possible since it would be like adding 'a bunch of modifications that can be unlocked' for a Tiger I H and/or Su 85 to produce a Tiger I E and/or Su 85M...Doesn't work like that in the game for these two vehicles and neither should it be like that for this Stug III G...

Yeah, but it's not a StuG H, just a StuG G with some more modification, which could for the most part be fitted to any G model.

 

But I don't mind having a "Late" variant in the tech tree.

[TheLeadHead 570]

I really can't say no to the StuG life.

[memer4life9000@psn 36]

Can’t say no to a StuG!

[Chomusuke1 1,219]

 

 

 

[Destroyer500000 274]

COMMON GAIJIN COMMON JUST DO IT ! 

I also made my own post

if anyone is interested but i pretty much had the same goal with this one