Jagdpanzer 4 (late) : tanky bunker of the Jäger/hunters

[warner7 81]

Panzerjager 4 (late)

 

History:

During ww2, the StuG 3 & StuG 4 were the most numerous self propelled guns in germany's hands, but as the war went on those vehicles got outdated and the german army needed a new tank hunter with the requirement of 100mm front armour and was supposed to use the 7.5cm L/70 as the main armamant. The vehicle they came up was the Jagdpanzer 4 (aka as the Panzerjager 4). While the vehicles were produced, the L/70 guns were not ready, so the Jagdpanzerer 4's were equipped with the L/48 guns. The Jagdpanzer 4 was built on the Panzer 4H chassis. Early Jagdpanzer 4's (serial Fgst.Nr.320001 to 320300) has 60mm of front armour, and the late Jagdpanzer 4's (serial Fgst.Nr.320301 onwards) has 80mm of sloped front armour. When the L/70 guns were avalable, they stopped the production of the Jagdpanser 4 and started producing the Panzer 4/70.

 

In-game place & playstyle: The Jagdpanzer 4 (late) is different to the Jagdpanzer 4 (in-game) with 80mm of sloped armour instead of 60, the machine gun port left side of the tank was removed and is now a big flat sloped plate on the superstructure. This vehicle has a weak gun for its rank (only 140mm armour penatration) but has a very good front armour, and exceptional armour with the add on tracks armour. It can drive up to popular places and tank a lot of shots from the front, being the tanky vehicle in the team and let others pick off the enemies. This vehicle suits br 4.7 - 5.0 well. 

 

Specifications:

Armour: Superstructure: 80mm (front) , 40mm (sides) , 30mm (rear) , 20mm (roof)

              Hull: 80mm ( UPF ) , 50mm ( LFP ) , 30mm (side) , 20mm (rear) , 10mm (hull roof) , 20mm (floor front) , 10mm (floor rear) 

Engine: Power: 296 hp at 3000 rpm (Maybach HL 120 TRM) 

              Speed: 40km/h , 6 foward speed & 1 reverse gear

Weight: 25.6 tons (without addon armour)

Armamant: Primary: 7.5 cm PaK 39 L/48 (same ammo used as the StuG 3 G) , 79 rounds of ammo, same traverse as Jagdpanzer 4.

                   Secondary: 1x MG 42 , 1200 rounds of ammo

dimentions: 

                  Length:  8.5 m 

                  Width:   3.17 m 

                  Height:  1.85 m 

 

 

pictures:

 

 

 

 

More information by Chomusuke1 down below in coment section  :-)

 

Bibliography:

https://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.php?armor_id=241

https://warspot.net/317-jagdpanzer-iv-the-best-stug

https://www.armedconflicts.com/Jagdpanzer-IV-L-48-t6414

https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/jagdpanzer-iv.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdpanzer_IV

 

Thankyou for reading, sorry for bad english as it is not my first language.

Edited February 13, 2023 by warner7
Changed all "Panzerjager 4" to "Jagdpanzer 4"

[Thatz 637]

Open for Discussion 

[Ghostmaxi 873]

16 hours ago, warner7 said:

machine gun port right side of the tank is removed

Left side, it was to the left of the driver.

Also why did you call it Panzerjager? Its Jagdpanzer IV and i wouldnt even call its late, its the main production, the in game one is "Early"

Edited July 23, 2022 by Ghostmaxi

[warner7 81]

6 hours ago, Thatz said:

Open for Discussion 

thank you 

2 hours ago, Ghostmaxi said:

Left side, it was to the left of the driver.

Also why did you call it Panzerjager? Its Jagdpanzer IV and i wouldnt even call its late, its the main production, the in game one is "Early"

there was many names, Panzerjager 4 was on of the official ones, so we can differentiate it and the Jagdpanzer 4 in the game. Also I fixed it to the correct side. 

Edited July 24, 2022 by warner7

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

The Jagdpanzer IV F (Sd. Kfz. 162) was a tank destroyer developed during World War II and was based on the chassis of the Panzer IV. The main task of the Jagdpanzer IV was to defend against attacking enemy combat vehicles such as tanks and assault guns. In War Thunder, the current Jagdpanzer IV presently found in the game is a very early January 1944 example, which you can clearly see below:

 

 

Instead of depicting a standard, common, mainstream example produced during the peak of Jagdpanzer IV F production, Gaijin instead has decided to provide the German faction player with an extremely rare, early prototype example with early features such as the periscope mount found only on the second prototype of the Jagdpanzer IV (versuchs 2 {V2}), nose mounted spare tracks, two machine gun ports/openings, thinner frontal armor, thinner side armor, no schürzen, and a muzzle break. This complete lack of late improvements of any kind is a noticeable detriment to the combat effectiveness of the Jagdpanzer IV F in the game. In contrast to the SU-85 & SU-85M and their armor differences featured in this game, the German faction player has to make do with a extremely rare, early, single solitary prototype example of a Jagdpanzer IV in an extremely early configuration that is completely outclassed & inappropriate for late war maps & events/scenarios. Therefor, Gaijin should introduce  a proper Jagdpanzer IV F  example into this game, one produced during the peak of Jagdpanzer production (July 1944):

 

 

Main improvements and vehicle features of this July 1944 Jagdpanzer IV F  over the rare one that is currently present in the game would be:

 

Schürzen

Spare track moved to rear hull

Spare road wheels moved to rear roof

Left machine gun port deleted

Inner gun mantlet base plate revised to reduce weight

Muzzle break removed

80 mm frontal superstructure & upper hull armor

40 mm side superstructure armor

Panzer IV J style radiator cap

 

Some more information:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

I hope you don't mind but since I was working on a suggestion for this vehicle for about a week but your topic was approved first, I have added most of my info to your topic....

On 23/07/2022 at 21:53, warner7 said:

so we can differentiate it and the Jagdpanzer 4 in the game

The current one in this game should be removed or be made into a premium vehicle since it is extremely rare...I mean what business does the second prototype of the Jadgpanzer IV have being placed into the standard tech tree?

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Chomusuke1

[warner7 81]

1 hour ago, Chomusuke1 said:

I hope you don't mind but since I was working on a suggestion for this vehicle for about a week but your topic was approved first, I have added most of my info to your topic....

 

The current one in the game should be removed or be made into a premium vehicle since it is extremely rare...I mean what business does the second prototype of the Jadgpanzer IV have being placed in the standard tech tree?

 

This is really juice information.  Thanks for adding on to my suggestion 

[Milocat 4,855]

+1, looks like this would be a great modified version to add.

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

In addition to this common late one being suggested here, gaijin should also introduce a fancy premium one that features the Rundumsfeuer MG 34 as well:

 

Edited February 10, 2023 by Chomusuke1

[Ghostmaxi 873]

I didnt notice that you changes the title again, but please fix it, there is no Jagers, they are called Jäger. (Assuming you dont have the ä, just copy paste what i wrote, it honestly hurts my eyes to see Jagers, no offence.)

[warner7 81]

On 09/02/2023 at 04:43, Ghostmaxi said:

No offence.

None taken.