Leopard 2A7V - The True German Crown Jewel

[QuickerThanU 30]

Here is some information that may help you. (The photos are in the imgur below.)

The V-Improvements in Detail
Due to the new P 25000 HD final drives with modified transmission ratio, the Leopard 2A7V is again able to adequately perform tactical "jumps" from cover.

The vehicle receives 570 Z end connector tracks adapted to the increased weight, new sprockets, reinforced torsion bars and four additional hydraulic bump stops.
 

In addition to an Attica third-generation thermal sight and new eyesafe laser rangefinder in the EMES 15A2 main sight, the gunner will  have an additional display to the left of his control handles. This allows him to observe the EMES and PERI R17A3 fields.
 

To increase night combat capability, a sensor head  for the SPECTUS II multispectral driver assistance system with a scientific complementary metal-oxide semiconductor (sCMOS) camera each for daytime vision and residual light vision, as well as an uncooled thermal sight, is fitted to both the front and rear of the vehicle.
 

On the Leopard 2A7V, the 76mm smoke grenade discharger system has six instead of eight launchers per turret side.

Hull

For mine protection reasons, the Leopard 2A7V now carries only 22 instead of 27 rounds in the  hull, in addition to 15 rounds in the turret, in contrast to older Leopard 2 variants like the 2A4, 2A5 or 2A6.

Power Pack

The liquid-cooled, 47.6-litre MTU MB 873 Ka-501 12-cylinder, pre-chamber, multi-fuel diesel engine with two turbochargers and intercooler generates l ,500hp at an engine speed of 2,600rpm. 

Turret
The commander's and gunner's stations are both located to the right of the main gun that separates the fighting compartment. The gunner, sitting in front and slightly below the commander, has an EMES 15A2 main sight  plus a FERO Z18A7 auxiliary sight.

EMES 15A2 Main Sight

The main sight is the binocular EMES 15A2, originally built by STN Atlas Elektronik, with integrated thermal sight and laser rangefinder. With its 12x magnification, it is the gunner's primary sight. With its 4x and 12x magnification, it allows observation and combat by day, in darkness or in limited visibility.

This measures distances out to a range of 9,990m with an accuracy of +/- 10m, but the fire control computer only takes firing ranges  between 200m and 5,000m into account. When the measurement is below 200m, the fire control computer always uses data for 1,000m.
 

FERO Z18A7 Auxiliary Sight
In case the main sight malfunctions, the crew can still use the telescopic FERO Z18A7 auxiliary sight with 8x magnification. It is coaxially located with the gunner's station on the right side of the  main gun , with its housing on top of the turret.
 

PERI R17A3 Panoramic Sight

With the PERI R17A3 gyro-stabilised panoramic periscope made by Hensoldt AG, the commander can observe, identify and engage targets independently from the gunner by night or day. In addition to the daytime optics with 2x and 8x magnification and an NdYAG laser rangefinder, it also has a powerful Attica thirdgeneration thermal sight with 4x, 12x and 24x magnification in the housing assembly instead of the Ophelios thermal sight previously used on the older Leopard 2A5 and 2A6 versions.

By using a special scan principle, an image resolution of 768 pixels  horizontally and 576 pixels vertically is achieved. The two fixedindex positions for six o'clock and twelve o'clock make it possible to align the line of sight of the PERI R17A3 independently of the position of the turret, in association with the position of  the hull.
 

Ammunition
DM12 HEAT-MP-T
DM11 MP-HE-T
DM63A1 APFSDS-T

Source : Tankograd - Militärfahrzeug Spezial N°5092 - Leopard 2A7V The New German Leopard 2A7V - The World's Best Main Battle Tank by Verlag Jochen Vollert

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Edited October 12, 2022 by QuickerThanU

[QuickerThanU 30]

On 08/10/2022 at 14:22, Woolfi23456789@psn said:

They showed the trophy A7V at Eurosatory 2022

and these ones at a NATO event but I am not sure if they are the A7V or the normal A7

This is the configuration proposed to Norwegian (Leopard 2A7NO), the configuration is: PERI-RTWL and Trophy. (For the last picture.)
Here is a diagram of the Trophy system installation on the Leopard 2A7.
https://imgur.com/a/GEnNjTS

Edited October 11, 2022 by QuickerThanU

[ЧВК Вагнер 13]

On 10.10.2022 at 13:11, MinenGishose said:

Кому именно дадут кнопку, советам или немцам?

 

Немцам должны, хотя бы разок мету сместить, или Germany Слабая? Меня только пестни на немецком мотивируют как минимум на ней играть. Ох уже этот по немецки мощный голос. Нация так то должа быть сейчас намного лучше, ведь пока т90а и т80бвм 2005го и 2020го, а лео 2а5 и 2а6 1995го и 2001-2004го

[Woolfi23456789@psn 28]

On 11/10/2022 at 17:38, QuickerThanU said:

This is the configuration proposed to Norwegian (Leopard 2A7NO), the configuration is: PERI-RTWL and Trophy. (For the last picture.)
Here is a diagram of the Trophy system installation on the Leopard 2A7.
https://imgur.com/a/GEnNjTS

Yes the remote gun isn’t the one Germany primary uses on vehicles. They like the FLW 200 for their vehicles.  It would still look similar because they want to mount it on the A7V and they have a similar armor package. 

[FurinaBestArchon 4,618]

Btw! They finally revealed the final config for the 2A7HUN:

 

Hopefully it will join the 2A7V in the German TT as it's just really beautiful.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Columbina

[萨镇冰 20]

+1

Since Russia already got T80BVM, its fair for German to get leopard 2A7V as competitor.

[Crumb_Fox 1]

On 2022/9/5 at AM2点32分, MorbidlyABeast_0 said:

我投反对票，直到美国有一个对应物，比如 SEP 模型。 由于好，自 2019 年添加 M1A2 以来，没有新的顶级科技树对应物。 2A6 是我们第一次需要另一辆坦克参加比赛的时候。 看到德国几乎每年都有一只新豹子，这变得很烦人/很痛苦。

Sep has already appeared

[FurinaBestArchon 4,618]

Update to the topic:

- DM73 entered service

- KE2020Neo has gotten its DM name, its now dubbed "DM83" and will most likely enter service next year.

 

Some interesting notes;

 

"Justifying the increase of calibre from 120 to 130 mm, he pointed out the results of a study carried out in the mid 2010s by Rheinmetall, showing that the combination of the L55A1 gun with the DM73 APFSDS round ensured sufficient kill capability against modern enemy targets at 1,000 meters range, the new DM83 adding further 500 meters, this round being expected to become operational in 2024."

 

What does this mean? Well, 2 things most likely:

- DM73 works against vehicles such as T-80BVM and T-90M at least at 1,000 meters (possibly) more as the tests were done in mid 2010s at which point DM73 was likely still not as fast as it is now.

- DM83 extends that range further by 500 meters; which means the projectile is powerful enough to penetrate the armours of those two Russian tanks through the ERA at whooping 1500 meters! Even 2,000m, but that remains to be seen.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Holouu

[Lord_Prism 1,826]

1 hour ago, Holouu said:

DM73 entered service

SoonTM

[MinenGishose 4]

16 hours ago, Holouu said:

Update to the topic:

- DM73 entered service

- KE2020Neo has gotten its DM name, its now dubbed "DM83" and will most likely enter service next year.

 

Some interesting notes;

 

"Justifying the increase of calibre from 120 to 130 mm, he pointed out the results of a study carried out in the mid 2010s by Rheinmetall, showing that the combination of the L55A1 gun with the DM73 APFSDS round ensured sufficient kill capability against modern enemy targets at 1,000 meters range, the new DM83 adding further 500 meters, this round being expected to become operational in 2024."

 

What does this mean? Well, 2 things most likely:

- DM73 works against vehicles such as T-80BVM and T-90M at least at 1,000 meters (possibly) more as the tests were done in mid 2010s at which point DM73 was likely still not as fast as it is now.

- DM83 extends that range further by 500 meters; which means the projectile is powerful enough to penetrate the armours of those two Russian tanks through the ERA at whooping 1500 meters! Even 2,000m, but that remains to be seen.

Can you give me your sours of this unfo?
Sorry for my ENG i am from RU sigment.

[MBDA_Meteor 20]

Hope to see at in game

[OddPhenomena 1,015]

3 hours ago, MinenGishose said:

Can you give me your sours of this unfo?
Sorry for my ENG i am from RU sigment.

Via a quick google search, I found this article with some quotes from Dr. Tobias Schmidt, Rheinmetall‘s Future Gun System programme director.

 

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/improved-firepower-not-only-a-matter-of-calibre

[Ellen2604 2]

+1, It would be on par with the BVM.

[Sturer_Guenther 289]

On 30/11/2022 at 15:01, Hawaii_Guitar said:

+1

Since Russia already got T80BVM, its fair for German to get leopard 2A7V as competitor.

 

2A5 and 2A6 are more than enough to handle those T80Us and BVMs.

 

2A7(V) is more like the competitor to T90M and maybe even the T14 (when it's finally working xD)

Edited April 11, 2023 by Sturer_Guenther

[AryanDemigod88 7]

On 11/04/2023 at 21:26, Sturer_Guenther said:

2A5 and 2A6 are more than enough to handle those T80Us and BVMs

if gaijoob wouldn't had forgotten to de-nerf the hull armor of the entire leopard series^^ we already have better versions of the leopard in other TT, why are the german ones still nerfed makes no sense for me

[FurinaBestArchon 4,618]

This may be of interest to some of you; Leopard 2A8 will be ordered soon (with deliveries to begin in or around 2025), currently the framwork is being (or already has been) prepared for 18 vehicles with further expansion down the line, certain improvements that we know were being prepared for the next upgrade for now are:

- Fully Integrated (and better) Trophy APS along with LWS which comes standard with it

- Fully digitilised turret which means the physical channel connection to the gunner's optic we see in the right turret cheek will be most likely removed

- Turret roof protection like in the Leopard 2A7HU

- More powerful engine (due to 2A7Vs having been prepared for engine uprating to 1630, 2A8 is likely to come with such engine power as standard)

- Turret will be newly built, either lowering weight whilst keeping the protection of the heavier 2A7Vs or they will keep the weight and increase protection

 

Unconfirmed improvements:

- enlarged turret rack (KMW had made a patent for a 28 round turret rack back in 2021 from what I remember, due to 2A8s being completely new built, there is a possibility that this design could be employed but so far there is no information on that).

 

Improvements that were denied:

- RCWS

Edited April 14, 2023 by Holouu

[Lord_Prism 1,826]

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

Fully Integrated (and better) Trophy APS along with LWS which comes standard with it

Interesting how KMW didn't go with Strike Shield, but given its a Rheinmetall project, not entirely surprising either 

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

Fully digitilised turret which means the physical channel connection to the gunner's optic we see in the right turret cheek will be most likely removed

Finally 

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

Turret roof protection like in the Leopard 2A7HU

Good, given the usage of drones in .... certain events 

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

More powerful engine (due to 2A7Vs having been prepared for engine uprating to 1630, 2A8 is likely to come with such engine power as standard)

Also needed, she was getting a bit heavy and needed a boost 

 

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

Turret will be newly built, either lowering weight whilst keeping the protection of the heavier 2A7Vs or they will keep the weight and increase protection

Perhaps with the new armor from the KF-51?

 

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

enlarged turret rack (KMW had made a patent for a 28 round turret rack back in 2021 from what I remember, due to 2A8s being completely new built, there is a possibility that this design could be employed but so far there is no information on that)

16 is a little anemic for Modern combat, so nearly doubling it is a smart move 

 

4 hours ago, Holouu said:

Improvements that were denied:

- RCWS

German tanks mounting .50s challenge (Impossible)

[Woolfi23456789@psn 28]

23 hours ago, Lord_Prism said:

Interesting how KMW didn't go with Strike Shield, but given its a Rheinmetall project, not entirely surprising either 

Finally 

Good, given the usage of drones in .... certain events 

Also needed, she was getting a bit heavy and needed a boost 

 

Perhaps with the new armor from the KF-51?

 

16 is a little anemic for Modern combat, so nearly doubling it is a smart move 

 

German tanks mounting .50s challenge (Impossible)

I wouldn’t count out the RCWS. The Leopard 2AX is the dream Leopard for the BW and they say that the A8 is pretty close to it. The RCWS has been on the top of the wishlist for quite a while and it would be surprising if they picked one in the end. Also it’s not fully ordered yet so changes are still a option. Also last minute changes are always a thing. 

Edited April 15, 2023 by Woolfi23456789@psn

[NoodleCup31 8,824]

On 12/04/2023 at 22:02, AryanDemigod88 said:

if gaijoob wouldn't had forgotten to de-nerf the hull armor of the entire leopard series^^ we already have better versions of the leopard in other TT, why are the german ones still nerfed makes no sense for me

@AryanDemigod88 the C tech hull on 2A5/6 is actually performing correctly.

Calculating via the currently accurate protection of the B tech turret, we can calculate correct figures for the B tech hull via LOS values.

Against common 120mm ammo like DM23 or DM33 the protection should actually be increased like this:
KE: 296mm --> 360mm

CE: 610mm --> 685mm

 

 

Oh and the 2A5/6 turret is massively underperforming against CE but that's another story.

Edited May 3, 2023 by NoodleCup31

[x_Shini_ 434]

11 hours ago, NoodleCup31 said:

@AryanDemigod88 the C tech hull on 2A5/6 is actually performing correctly.

Calculating via the currently accurate protection of the B tech turret, we can calculate correct figures for the B tech hull via LOS values.

Against common 120mm ammo like DM23 or DM33 the protection should actually be increased like this:
KE: 296mm --> 360mm

CE: 610mm --> 685mm

 

 

Oh and the 2A5/6 turret is massively underperforming against CE but that's another story.

at least they acknowledged that the health is underperforming, question is only when they will buff it https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/2f8CXco00VsG

[Trioner17 12]

On 14/04/2023 at 11:36, Holouu said:

This may be of interest to some of you; Leopard 2A8 will be ordered soon (with deliveries to begin in or around 2025), currently the framwork is being (or already has been) prepared for 18 vehicles with further expansion down the line, certain improvements that we know were being prepared for the next upgrade for now are:

- Fully Integrated (and better) Trophy APS along with LWS which comes standard with it

- Fully digitilised turret which means the physical channel connection to the gunner's optic we see in the right turret cheek will be most likely removed

- Turret roof protection like in the Leopard 2A7HU

- More powerful engine (due to 2A7Vs having been prepared for engine uprating to 1630, 2A8 is likely to come with such engine power as standard)

- Turret will be newly built, either lowering weight whilst keeping the protection of the heavier 2A7Vs or they will keep the weight and increase protection

 

Unconfirmed improvements:

- enlarged turret rack (KMW had made a patent for a 28 round turret rack back in 2021 from what I remember, due to 2A8s being completely new built, there is a possibility that this design could be employed but so far there is no information on that).

 

Improvements that were denied:

- RCWS

not only the turret will be newly build but the whole tank. The 2A8 is supposte to be the first completely newly build leopard for the german army in over 40 Years or 30 years