Thodin 6,784 Report post Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) Top tier is unplayable. Give others players some space to maneuver and nerf their BVM. You get picked up on the ground and at high alt, chaffs don't help, nodging won't work...you need all you energy to shake these off...which leaves you in a very bad position when they close in. How can a plane and game be that unbalanced? Edited December 22, 2022 by Thodin 5 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogessor 1 Report post Posted December 23, 2022 F14 ruins matches. And only 11.3? Because of that Phoenix missiles the 11.7 is at least. I like to fight against F16 and Mig29. But against F14 and Phoenix missiles it is not a fair fight, just pointless dying. And we need lot more high mountains. Much more. On these mostly flat maps there is no real chance against Fox3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_FoeHammer_ 25 Report post Posted December 24, 2022 If you regularly get killed by aim-54, that's very much a skill issue. 1 1 2 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verdonss 1 Report post Posted January 3, 2023 I agree a lot. Nowdays in a top-tier gameplay you're fighting against almost entire team full of F-14. I really dont care about entire performance of f14, the main problem is aim-54 rockets... When you just fly with you team you got hit by rocket launched from sky, giving you almost impossible % to dodge it. Which gives you only option to return to hangar and wish for wish for miracle to dont get shooted by next rocket in another game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karatekakerlake 394 Report post Posted January 3, 2023 The most simple fix would be to give the US the Germany treatment in that they dont get all their features as it would break balance and simply give it when other nations have something on par. For the F-14 and F-16 that would mean either a reduced loadout of sparrows and nerfed Aim-9l down to R-60 levels (or buffed R-60s to Aim-9l Levels in terms of flare resistance) or if the Sparrow, Aim-9l slingers take a full loadout with their superb missiles above the threshold of four missiles their Countermeasures get reduced by 75%. It cant be that the US is the only nation that gets the spoiled nation treatment and gets all the goodies without getting any drawbacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thodin 6,784 Report post Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Its probably the super op radar along with the crazy number of Sparrows which can be mounted. Not the missile itself. So nerf the radar. Bring back ground clutter below 1000m or something. Reduce the loadouts. Make radar locks + target aquisition + firing the Sparrow a more lenghty procedure. So it can't be abused that much, so thex can't be used for quick snapshots and furball fights. Make chaffs working from all aspects as flares do their job. Something like this. @Gajin: You always say for German jets thats its too early to get all their features. Also for ground units, like the new Gepard 1A2, which can't have FAPD ammo, since mods/devs stated they just don't want it ingame at this point. Why are you never considering something like this for US? Why do they have to be so unbelievable op, that they kill off enemy teams in below 3 minutes. Super radars with multilock ability and too much missiles.... Looks like 2 BVR kills at the same time per F14 while we were going below 100m alt? Why do you think the game is ready for that? Where are counters? Or at least bigger maps so we can hide a bite. Instead we take off and get shot down a just few km from our own airbase..... What is this nonsense? With US teams? Edited January 3, 2023 by Thodin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNDM Nirvana@live 830 Report post Posted January 3, 2023 The Phoenix missiles are only viable for altitude denial. To defeat them, don't fly straight and mind your altitude for at least the first 2 minutes after take-off. If you die to a Phoenix, it's literally a skill issue. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karatekakerlake 394 Report post Posted January 4, 2023 16 hours ago, GNDM Nirvana@live said: The Phoenix missiles are only viable for altitude denial. To defeat them, don't fly straight and mind your altitude for at least the first 2 minutes after take-off. If you die to a Phoenix, it's literally a skill issue. You do know the hypocrisy in your own statement right? One nation is able to completely deny other nations any sort of positioning while also having the best plane, best radar, best missiles and then you say that if you die to said nation its a skill issue. If thats the case why doesnt Germany get its Eurofighter with Iris-T? Guess its just a skill issue for the US then when they dont get the best stuff? 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNDM Nirvana@live 830 Report post Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Karatekakerlake said: You do know the hypocrisy in your own statement right? One nation is able to completely deny other nations any sort of positioning while also having the best plane, best radar, best missiles and then you say that if you die to said nation its a skill issue. If thats the case why doesnt Germany get its Eurofighter with Iris-T? Guess its just a skill issue for the US then when they dont get the best stuff? We must not be playing the same game because 8 times out of 10 the teams hardly climb anyways to avoid being targeted by any BVR, thus at basest value the Aim54 can be considered a moot point. The playstyle has seen no change post-Tomcat, so your attempt to claim hypocrisy is sheer ignorance. Most people have refused to climb since the introduction of BVR missiles and again, it hasn't changed since the Tomcat dropped. Additionally, your complaint about Germany is wasted on me - I have no connection to the Devs - Take that argument up with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschjager171@live 0 Report post Posted January 8, 2023 no matter what you do, the f 14 comes and does what it always does here a bvr rocket this is no longer playing, they can remove the quiet mall, remove the bvr rockets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
