Planes from other countries in battles?

[Shadow__Assassin 0]

This might be a dumb question (bear with me), but it's something I noticed a few times and didn't understand. When I'm flying Great Britain planes, I assumed that all of the planes in that battle (arcade) are from Great Britain. But I see a Soviet Mig 3 tearing up the place. I have a Mig 3, but it's restricted to Soviet battles (if this makes any sense.) Just wondering how someone 'moves' a plane from one country to a battle in another. (See? I told you this was probably a dumb question.)  TIA

[PenguinRed 328]

In arcade, the planes nationality (the players chosen nation) doesnt matter. It only has an impact on the teams in realistic and simulator battles

[Shadow__Assassin 0]

4 minutes ago, PenguinRed said:

In arcade, the planes nationality (the players chosen nation) doesnt matter. It only has an impact on the teams in realistic and simulator battles

That's what I thought... but when I am flying planes from my GB fleet, why is it that I can't use a plane from my Soviet fleet, for example? I guess that's what has me confused. I didn't think it was possible for me to see a Soviet plane in a battle when I'm flying my GB fleet. Like, I saw this Mig flying around, so I said, "Hey... I got a Soviet Mig... but there's no way to "move it" that I can see, to use in a battle that I start when I'm using my GB fleet. When I try to change vehicles, I only see the planes that I've purchased from that country... not planes that I've purchased from other countries. That's why it surprises me when I see a plane from another country flying in a battle like that. Does that make sense??

 

[anyuser 5,136]

You mean in Ship battles?
Because this is the air subforum.

 

In Ship there is the option to choose a random plane when you want to respawn in the battle. Or the ones you put into your setup on your own.
Might be, that choosing random can give you planes from other nations.

 

 

If you talk about plane battles.

You and every other player chooses his nation before pressing the big red to battle button.

Everyone got a lineup of planes for the choosen nation.

All nations choosen by players can be in a battle on both sides fighting each other.

The only way to fly planes of other nations with a nation are usually prem planes (and some nations got a lot of copy and past planes from other nations).

[Kosher_Locust 120]

7 hours ago, Shadow__Assassin said:

This might be a dumb question (bear with me), but it's something I noticed a few times and didn't understand. When I'm flying Great Britain planes, I assumed that all of the planes in that battle (arcade) are from Great Britain. But I see a Soviet Mig 3 tearing up the place. I have a Mig 3, but it's restricted to Soviet battles (if this makes any sense.) Just wondering how someone 'moves' a plane from one country to a battle in another. (See? I told you this was probably a dumb question.)  TIA

No; there's no restriction to air forces (fleets are ships and Star Trek), and sides aren't restricted to allies or axis.  All the planes on your air force are(mostly) from the same country, but your team mates can have their own air forces from any other country.

 

Real world planes that were purchased/lent/captured by other countries can appear, so there is an American Bf-109 and FW-190, representing captured aircraft that were tested and flown by the USA.  The Russians have quite a few US/British planes that came in from Lend Lease, and the Russian Hurricane is armed completely different from the British one.  You also see planes that were licensed to other countries, the Bf-109G was flown by a lot of nations.  Lastly, some planes that were unique/interesting enough are included in tech trees as their real world air forces weren't numerous or distinct enough to develop.  So you have the Romanian IAR-81 in the Italian tree and the Finnish Pyörremyrsky in the Swedish tree.    However, unless it's in the tech tree for your air force you can't mix and match what you like.  

[SEKF 0]

On 12/01/2023 at 18:17, Kosher_Locust said:

No; there's no restriction to air forces (fleets are ships and Star Trek), and sides aren't restricted to allies or axis.  All the planes on your air force are(mostly) from the same country, but your team mates can have their own air forces from any other country.

 

Real world planes that were purchased/lent/captured by other countries can appear, so there is an American Bf-109 and FW-190, representing captured aircraft that were tested and flown by the USA.  The Russians have quite a few US/British planes that came in from Lend Lease, and the Russian Hurricane is armed completely different from the British one.  You also see planes that were licensed to other countries, the Bf-109G was flown by a lot of nations.  Lastly, some planes that were unique/interesting enough are included in tech trees as their real world air forces weren't numerous or distinct enough to develop.  So you have the Romanian IAR-81 in the Italian tree and the Finnish Pyörremyrsky in the Swedish tree.    However, unless it's in the tech tree for your air force you can't mix and match what you like.  

Essentially the entire Chinese air tree is all copy and paste from Russian and American (mostly) trees, other than the J-2 through J-8B, which are license-built MiGs, and a few indigenous bombers.

[anyuser 5,136]

1 hour ago, SEKF said:

and a few indigenous bombers

No, everything is a (modified) copy of either US or USSR material or they grabbed some Japanese leftovers after the war.

The most "indigenous" as it gets is the A-5/Q-5, which is a modification of the Mig-19 and the J-8, a modified Mig-21.

[Cpt_Bel_V 4,790]

On 12/01/2023 at 18:41, PenguinRed said:

In arcade, the planes nationality (the players chosen nation) doesnt matter. It only has an impact on the teams in realistic and simulator battles

Even this have change for realistic battle.

[chplawrence 76]

On 13/01/2023 at 09:17, Kosher_Locust said:

However, unless it's in the tech tree for your air force you can't mix and match what you like.  

Which leads us to the question, why isn’t it allowed at least in AB? Other than forcing us to buy the premium captured or lend lease vehicles ….

 

This would probably solve the unbalanced lineup problem on minor nations which lack enough vehicles on certain BR…