Chinese vs American M60A3 TTS

[kcns 37]

The chinese m60a3 tts should go down to 8.3 in AB. Compared to the american one it is missing the ERA and M774 round yet both are at 8.7

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They both has only M735, although Chinese one missing ERA but it get TVM.

[kcns 37]

On 24/02/2023 at 23:35, Zero_Seeker said:

They both has only M735, although Chinese one missing ERA but it get TVM.

 

American one has M774 dude. What do you mean by TVM? they both have thermals

[不是很能抗压 1,265]

Sorry, u r right.

[十大建設推動者蔣經國 15]

Recently, the ROCA's M60A3TTS have received thermals and fire control upgrades as well as AVDS-1790-2CAU engine upgrades(probably 1200HP). So, I would suggest Gaijin add faster forward/reverse speeds, faster turret rotation speed(same level as the M1 Abrams), faster gun elevation/depression speeds and 3rd gen thermals for the Chinese M60A3TTS in the future. If DM63 were given to the Chinese M60A3TTS then it should raise the BR from 8.7 to 9.0.

Sources :  https://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?Type=1&SerialNo=153410
                https://www.upmedia.mg/news_info.php?Type=1&SerialNo=163395

Edited March 31, 2023 by Sam_Min_Ju_Yee

[kcns 37]

i looked into this a bit more. taiwan appears to have never imported the M735 apfsds round. which makes sense considering taiwan imported the m60a3 in 1994, and by then the M735 round was considered ineffective and withdrawn from active service US units (last users of this was US Marines who retired it around the time of the gulf war in 1991). 

 

However, we know taiwan had access to M774 rounds, in fact recently they were demil'd:
https://www.icbuw.eu/depleted-uranium-weapons-state-of-affairs-2022/

https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/demil-of-depleted-uranium-ammunition-located-in-taiwan-w52p1jdudemil

 

The only tanks used by the taiwanese army that could fire M774 is the m60a3 and cm11. we know cm11 is more modern and uses dm63 rounds which leaves the m60a3 as the one that uses M774. However ingame neither vehicle has M774

 

with the current state of the chinese m60a3 compared to the american one at the same br, i think it really needs to be given the M774 round at a minimum to stay at 8.7

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On 28/04/2023 at 07:12, kcns said:

i looked into this a bit more. taiwan appears to have never imported the M735 apfsds round. which makes sense considering taiwan imported the m60a3 in 1994, and by then the M735 round was considered ineffective and withdrawn from active service US units (last users of this was US Marines who retired it around the time of the gulf war in 1991). 

 

However, we know taiwan had access to M774 rounds, in fact recently they were demil'd:
https://www.icbuw.eu/depleted-uranium-weapons-state-of-affairs-2022/

https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/demil-of-depleted-uranium-ammunition-located-in-taiwan-w52p1jdudemil

 

The only tanks used by the taiwanese army that could fire M774 is the m60a3 and cm11. we know cm11 is more modern and uses dm63 rounds which leaves the m60a3 as the one that uses M774. However ingame neither vehicle has M774

 

with the current state of the chinese m60a3 compared to the american one at the same br, i think it really needs to be given the M774 round at a minimum to stay at 8.7

Do you have any source that Taiwan never import M735？

[kcns 37]

16 hours ago, _____HK416_____ said:

Do you have any source that Taiwan never import M735？

no direct source sorry or i would post it here. but i went through 1990-1994 publically available export/import documents. no document mentions m735. in fact if you search all taiwanese/american documents that are declassified still not a single one mentions m735 in taiwanese use while many mention various aspects of the m774 (use as well as disposal etc). there would have been little sense to give taiwan m735 alongside m774 (which we know they had in 1994). honestly they can keep the m735 ingame since we cant rule it out definitively, but when there is so much evidence taiwan used m774 it makes no sense not to give the m60a3 this round especially since the american one at the same br has it

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5 hours ago, kcns said:

no direct source sorry or i would post it here. but i went through 1990-1994 publically available export/import documents. no document mentions m735. in fact if you search all taiwanese/american documents that are declassified still not a single one mentions m735 in taiwanese use while many mention various aspects of the m774 (use as well as disposal etc). there would have been little sense to give taiwan m735 alongside m774 (which we know they had in 1994). honestly they can keep the m735 ingame since we cant rule it out definitively, but when there is so much evidence taiwan used m774 it makes no sense not to give the m60a3 this round especially since the american one at the same br has it

thank you for your clarification

Do you know where can see the US 1990-1994 export/import documents？