Petition to swap the places of Su-39(Su-25TM) with Su-25T

[Smin1080p_WT 60,444]

Hello guys!

 

Thank you for your feedback.

 

We are following your comments and wanted to clarify that the Su-25T will not be the last or final variant of the Su-25 in the researchable branch. In the future, we plan additional variants which will also supersede the Su-39 in terms of capabilities and provide the best versions of the aircraft within the main tree.

 

The Su-39 coming was the variant of the Su-25 taken to shows and exhibitions intended for export sales. Hence why it will be premium.

 

More advanced versions of the aircraft will come to the tree in the future.

[PEAKVIRGIN 1,254]

As you all have seen the Su-39 is coming in the next patch as a premium, It's the most advanced variant of su-25 while they called it export and put it as premium.

I suggest replacing Su-39(Su-25TM) with Su-25T that will be the tech tree version aka the baseline that the su-39 was made off

Su-25TM(Su-39) modernized Su-25t  

[Smoak741 1,140]

+1

SU-39 should be in the technology tree and su-25t as premium.

The radar in the SU-39 and later the a2a radar missiles is something the SU-25T will not have and therefore should be as a premium

[Bumpy25 26]

Just now, Smoak741 said:

+1

SU-39 should be in the technology tree and su-25t as premium.

The radar in the SU-39 and later the a2a radar missiles is something the SU-25T will not have and therefore should be as a premium

or they should just make those two in tree, not premium, since they already have SU-25K as premium.

[PEAKVIRGIN 1,254]

Just now, Bumpy25 said:

or they should just make those two in tree, not premium, since they already have SU-25K as premium.

works aswell

[Hungary95@live 17]

I think they just shouldn't add it at all. Some nations need a new Cas plane way more than Russia

[Kingtiez@live 606]

+1

[KuroAwaide 7]

if they add it, please take away the ircm as long as there is no counter for it (just get closer is no counter)..

And this should not at all be a premium plane.
 

Edited May 19, 2023 by KuroAwaide

[PEAKVIRGIN 1,254]

Just now, KuroAwaide said:

if they add it, please take away the ircm as long as there is no counter for it (just get closer is no counter)..

Well radar guided missiles and guns still exist, and some missiles have built in countermeasures against those systems like igla/stinger/and the spaa missiles as well 

[KuroAwaide 7]

Just now, PEAKVIRGIN said:

Well radar guided missiles and guns still exist, and some missiles have built in countermeasures against those systems like igla/stinger/and the spaa missiles as well 

true, but just imagine how this thing would perform in a downtier. 
or if other planes like a A10 or A7 upteir to face that.

[PEAKVIRGIN 1,254]

Just now, KuroAwaide said:

true, but just imagine how this thing would perform in a downtier. 
or if other planes like a A10 or A7 upteir to face that.

well a10 has enough ammo and is faster than su25t(tm) as its alot slower than baseline su25

but yes the irccm seems kinda strong 

[_Fantom2451_ 292]

Another variant is to change Su-39 to ethiopian Su-25TK and make Su-39 tt vehicle after Su-25T

Edited May 19, 2023 by _Fantom2451_

[PEAKVIRGIN 1,254]

Just now, _Fantom2451_ said:

Another variant is to change Su-39 to ethiopian Su-25TK and make Su-39 tt vehicle after Su-25T

That would also be a good option 

[KuroAwaide 7]

1 minute ago, PEAKVIRGIN said:

well a10 has enough ammo and is faster than su25t(tm) as its alot slower than baseline su25

but yes the irccm seems kinda strong 

Like i said as long as they dont give it the IRCM(IRCCM) i think its pretty fine.

Just now, PEAKVIRGIN said:

That would also be a good option 

True

[KuroAwaide 7]

First The Pantsir then the SU-39 dont you think its a bit much for russia?
there is no counterpart for the Su-39 nor the Patsir.
The Pantsir was more than enough. 

[Amirault 6]

+1

SU-25K already exists for anybody who wants to fly an su-25.
+Game doesn't need more SU-25s in air battles

[Gameupguy 2]

+1

[PyzeFN@live 8]

+1 

[meatymonkey 6]

This is getting out of hand, Gaijin needs to get their act together or they will lose the playerbase. Starting to turn into a EA situation

[Stephensan 1,367]

i said no, and would rather have the premium one removed for right now.

[This_is_the_MAC 1]

it would be nicer if both of them were in TT or just deleted from the game  lmao

[Boris_The_Turtle 4]

The better variant should be placed in the tech tree, this is a similar situation to the F4S and F4J situation. Having the better variant as a premium is unacceptable and actually removes the incentive to grind out the one in the tech tree.

[MrPisar 6]

First economy changes and now better plane as premium.

c'mon 

 

[MrPisar 6]

2 hours ago, PEAKVIRGIN said:

That would also be a good option 

or put su39 after su25T on the next tier.

Just put it in TT.

Edited May 19, 2023 by MrPisar

[Smoak741 1,140]

@Smin1080p

Dear Smin
Could you please move this topic to the Dev main discussion section, or to the main forum discussion?
Thank you in advance and best regards.

[Raldi92 2,923]

A-10A ( Early )  : Premium

A-10A Late  : Tech tree

 

Su-25 ( Early ) : Tech tree

Su-25TM ( Late ) : Premium

 

Needless to say more , double standards are blatant .