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Is it me or is the ZLT-11 a straight downgrade relative to its predecessors: the PTL-02/WMA-301. Sure you get a higher pen round and more protection, but the drivability of this vehicle is downright terrible. The entire purpose of light tanks are to quickly flank and destroy targets, but the ZLT-11 does a terrible job at that. For its BR, the PTL-02 is amazing as it gets everything (thermals, stabilizer, a very strong APFSDS that no other tank gets, rangefinder ,etc.), but at the BR that the ZLT-11 is in, it does not matter since every other tanks already has those equipment. It's also huge and the placement of its engine and fuel will make you die far easier compared to the PTL-02. If you only bring 10 rounds in the PTL-02, the entire rear half of your vehicle has empty, so what I like to do is peak out with the rear of my vehicle while sniping to freely bait and absorb any kinetic rounds aimed at your chassis. You can't do that with the ZLT-11. Your engine is in the back and your fuel is smack right near the driver, so a front hit will 99% insta-kill you.

 

I could forgive all that, but the worst aspect of the ZLT-11 is its handling. The PTL-02 engages both the front and rear wheels while turning, so it is relatively nimble and turns with a small circle. The ZLT-11, however, only engages the front two wheels and therefore requires a giant circle to turn. I constantly had to do three point turns in this thing in spaces that any other wheel vehicle could simple do a U-turn. Because its handling is so poor, it hardly serves its role as a fast wheeled tank destroyer. I could easily rack up tons of kills in either the PTL-02 or WMA-301 even in tiers that they don't belong in. But it is substantially more difficult for me to get any kills with the ZLT-11 while playing at its BR.

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My biggest gripe with the ZLT is how its top dart seems to be missing a good chunk of its advertised flat pen. The DTW2 is supposed to have the in game 125-I's point blank pen at 2km.

 

Speaking of which, is the in game DTW2 missing a bit over 2kg of its IRL projectile mass or is there some nuance here that I'm missing?

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1 hour ago, jet_17_49 said:

My biggest gripe with the ZLT is how its top dart seems to be missing a good chunk of its advertised flat pen. The DTW2 is supposed to have the in game 125-I's point blank pen at 2km.

 

Speaking of which, is the in game DTW2 missing a bit over 2kg of its IRL projectile mass or is there some nuance here that I'm missing?

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The nuance that you are missing is that projectile weight isn't a standardized thing that always means the same thing. Projectile weight can either be weight of the "dart" itself or "dart" with sabot. a Weight of 6kg for a 105mm projectile IE "dart" is quite unrealistic. The weight of the ingame DTW2 round is probably just a placeholder since even Gajin doesn't appear know actual weight of the "dart" and just copied it from the Type 83 round. Penetration is modelled, in-game, near enough to what the booklet says, the 60° penetration appears to basically accurate though for whatever reason Gaijin has given it less flat pen. So that 6kg figure in that booklet thingy probably includes the weight of the sabot along with the "dart" and therefore isn't the same mass as the ingame projectile mass stat which is weight of "dart" alone.

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