Sprengbombe Cylindrisch & Spezialbombe 2500 (SB & SC 2500)

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

 

 

During the recent battle of britain event, I came to the realization that the well-known 2,500 kg 'Max' bomb used by KG 26's He 111 H's are not available in this game. Furthermore, with the relatively recent introduction of such aircraft as the He 177, Ju 288, and Me 264, the lack of the 2500 kg bomb is becoming even more noticeable and pronounced. Therefor, I propose the adding of the SB 2500 bomb & SC 2500 bomb for all appropriate aircraft that used them, which would consist of the He 111 H-6, He 111 H-16, Me 264 V3, Do 217 E-2, Do 217 E-4, Do 217 K-1, Do 217 M-1, He 177 A-5, & Ju 288 C-1. The bombs would have 1700 - 1950 kg of explosive filler, depending on steel or aluminum construction. Some information:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links:

http://www.deutscheluftwaffe.com/archiv/Dokumente/ABC/b/Bomben/Allgemein/Handwerkzeug Bombenwurf.pdf

http://michaelhiske.de/Wehrmacht/Luft/Luft/LDV_4200/SERIE_B/BLatt_01a.HTM

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sb2500.htm

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sc2500.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20161021153456fw_/http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/Bomben.htm

http://luftarchiv.de/bordgerate/abwurf.htm

http://www.muzeumlotnictwa.pl/index.php/digitalizacja/katalog/486

http://www.muzeumlotnictwa.pl/index.php/digitalizacja/katalog/494

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Hendon

Edited September 18, 2019 by Chomusuke1

[Aussie_Mantis 331]

Bigger Bombs for Bombers?


Say no more.

 

+1

[G3cko873 506]

The only problem I can see with this is for the Ju 288, it’s still pretty fast, and has them mounted internally, unlike the He 177. So that means if a squad of 288s go into battle, you have 8x2500kg bombs, flying around at a still pretty good speed, or a total of 13600kg of TNT filler, if it is 1700kg of TNT filler per bomb, minus 3 bombs for the bases, that’s still 8500kg on the base, which should be able to take it out. I don’t have any more to say, other planes should be fine if they get it, unless there’s something I missed.

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

15 hours ago, G3cko873 said:

you have 8x2500kg bombs, flying around at a still pretty good speed

 

And it still does not level out the playing field with a squad of B-29

[sigma__zero@psn 4,650]

15 minutes ago, Chomusuke1 said:

 

And it still does not level out the playing field with a squad of B-29

 

B-29 is 6.3 and has a total of 8920 kg of bombs. Meanwhile the Russians have the FAB-5000 at 4.3. It wouldn't be out of the question to have a bomber at 5.7 with 5,000kg of payload considering that the Lancasters can carry 6,482kg at that BR and I believe we all can agree that they are quite overtiered

 

I don't think having the 2500kg would be game-breaking and I'd love to have them in the game (as long as no BRs are affected, of course)

[G3cko873 506]

7 hours ago, *sigma__zero said:

 

B-29 is 6.3 and has a total of 8920 kg of bombs. Meanwhile the Russians have the FAB-5000 at 4.3. It wouldn't be out of the question to have a bomber at 5.7 with 5,000kg of payload considering that the Lancasters can carry 6,482kg at that BR and I believe we all can agree that they are quite overtiered

 

I don't think having the 2500kg would be game-breaking and I'd love to have them in the game (as long as no BRs are affected, of course)

Well, again it was just a concern, i might be off on my math, but it probably would be fine, but I just don’t think a squad of high speed bomber should be able to take out all 3 bases and an AF, now if gaijin switched the main game mode over to ECRB, I would be all for these, no doubt, but until then, I just need to take a look at it more.

 

and also about the Pe-8, unless I’m reading this wrong, in terms of bomb load it’s fine at 4.3, the FAB-5000 is only one bomb. And the Pe-8 is also a slow heavy bomber.

 

my idea of how a bombers bomb load should be balanced like this:

4 heavy bombers can take out all 3 bases and an AF in one run

4 medium bombers can wipe the map in 2 runs.

4 lights bombers can wipe the map in 2 or more runs.

of course this is a bomb load, so other factors like armament and survivability may push it in or out of its BR relative to this. This is just what I think, and i completely understand if you disagree with this.

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

[Pony51 6,572]

On 22/09/2019 at 00:31, Chomusuke1 said:

 

I won that photo in eBay   

 

GJ knows of this bomb, and its variants.  

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

2500 kg bomb on a Lastenaufhängerahmen rack (He 111 H-11 or H-20):

 

[Pony51 6,572]

On 21/10/2019 at 08:19, Chomusuke1 said:

2500 kg bomb on a Lastenaufhängerahmen rack

 

Ist est 111H-20 Kampflugzeug

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

It appears to be an H-11 as the MG 81z found on the H-20 is missing:

 

 

Edited October 27, 2019 by Chomusuke1

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

bump

Maybe for upcoming patch 2.05.00.0?

[MSGKI_HARA_UOOH 2,828]

On 22/01/2020 at 09:33, Chomusuke1 said:

Maybe for upcoming patch 2.05.00.0?

 

will never happen

[Rapitor 10,702]

Version 2.xxx likely won't indeed.

 

Version 1.1xx (going to the 100) for instance is more realistic to happen than 2.xxx

[MSGKI_HARA_UOOH 2,828]

4 hours ago, Rapitor said:

2.xxx

 

that is implying gaijin doesnt go 1.9.9.01 or 1.9.9a

[Rapitor 10,702]

It's not like it's been very defined and following a strict pattern since 2013, the open beta... 

1.x.y.z pattern

 

Every major : add 2 to second segment value.

1.25 -> 1.27

 

Every after major gameplay / functionality release: change 3rd segment. 1.89.1 -> 1.89.2. Rule is 'add 1'. If the version isn't stable. Release might be skipped. 1.45.0.z -> 1.45.3.z, if version 1 and 2 did not make it to prod for any reason.

 

Every minor is a change on 4th digit. As 3rd, doesn't release at every increment.

 

But to go back on the initial digression, War Thunder, with the current pattern, will go 1.101.y.z, not 2.01 or anything.

 

To go back to OP.

Bomb will be added to the game when ready / modelled etc. All nations, including Russia, are missing big and small bombs.

[Pony51 6,572]

the 2500 will not even be the biggest bomb in game, yet still not in game....

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

Other games feature it so why and for what reason do we still not have it in this game?:

 

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

 

 

 

[_Iluminas_ 3,769]

i want it finally ingame

inb4 waiting as long as it took to fix the Maus turret

 

PS: wold be dope if i had the Trialen 109 explosive filling( 70 % Hexogen, 25 % Aluminiumpulver, 5 % Wachs)

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

[MaggyYolokrau1 135]

it probably wont come.....

 

and it wont have a big impact on the game either. it would only be interesting for the Me 264 since it will carry them internally and Ju-288 since it can be used as a CAS plane and as bomber fairly effectively. for the rest it would just result in a BR raise across the board and with the current load out of german bombers they are effective enough as is.

 

 

[Drahau 682]

They nerfed the bobms again, you can drop a 1800kg one 50m away from a tank and only score a few broken modules, if the 2.5k gets introduced, the allies will start "complaining" again and Gajin will nerf the 2.5k along with other smaller ones.

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

On 20/09/2020 at 05:55, MaggyYolokrau1 said:

for the rest it would just result in a BR raise across the board and with the current load out of german bombers they are effective enough as is

1.) Implementing a missing bomb wouldn't raise a thing as it is gaijins error omitting this bomb in the first place

2.) They cannot be effective as they are missing this payload...How about we remove the AN-M66 bomb from the game because 'american bombers are effective enough as is'?

[Chomusuke1 1,221]

 

Edited September 23, 2020 by Chomusuke1