ZSU-23-4M4: Intermediate Solution

[Alan_Tovarishch 860]

 

 

What is it?
A post soviet upgraded Shilka, offered by Russian and Belarusian manufacturers. Features include a new FCS, better mobility, and 4 Igla anti-aircraft missiles.

 

Why we need it?

Currently between Shilka and Tunguska there is a huge gap of capabilities and accordingly, BR. This has implications for trying to put together 8.7-9-7 lineups since at that BR area the Shilka is not a viable SPAA because of the proliferation of helicopters armed with ATGMs. Hence, we need an intermediate SPAA.

HIstory

After the dissolution of the USSR, the manufacturers of the Shilka found that there were still a lot of the obsolete systems active, both in the countries that were part of the USSR as well as allies. Meaning, very important business opportunities if modernization packages were to be offered. Even to this day, companies from a lot of former soviet or Warsaw Pact countries are still offering new modernization options.

The vehicle that i'm suggesting in this opportunity is offered by  the Ulyanovsk Mechanical Plant of Russia and the Minotor Service Enterprice from Belarus. It consists of a deep overhaul of the vehicle systems. Among them, a new hydrostatic transmission and the use of more ergonomic and modern components which allow to raise the maximum speed to 60 km/h in order to keep pace with MBTs. The vehicle also got laser warning systems and new totally passive optical systems, leading to an increased survivability. The entirety of the analogical FCS components were replaced by digital ones, leading to much higher capability of target tracking and more effective fire solution, translated into an incre ased hit probability from 0.07-0.12 for the original vehicles to 0.3-0.6 with the upgrade. On top of that, two dual Igla missile launchers were added to the sides of the turret increasing the vehicle kill range to 5.2km.

 

Specifications

ZSU-23-4M5 Specifications

Combat weight, kg	19200
Armor protection	bullet-proof
Top speed, km/h	60
Fuel range, km	400
Powerplant	water-cooled diesel
Max power output / RPM, hp. / rpm	280 / 2000
Power transmission	mechanical with hydrostatic steering
Brakes	disk, dry friction
Suspension	independent torsion-bar
APU	3-phase AC and DC
AC nominal power, kW	20
DC nominal power, kW	8
APU engine	GTE

Система вооружения

Caliber / number of barrels, mm / pcs.	23 / 4
Slant fire range, m	2500
Ammo, rounds	2000
Max burst length (one barrel), rounds	150
Radar detection range, m	12000
Radar tracking range, m	10000
OLS detection range, m	8000
OLS tracking range, m	7500
FCS ROM capacity, Mb	2
Digital instrument tracker	2-channel traverse / elevation unit
Multi-function training device	crew training in all modes

Auxiliary Equipment

NBC protection	overpressure
Fire-suppression system	automatic
Air-conditioner cooling performance, kcal/h	4000
Front driver's TV-camera	color
Rear-view driver's TV-camera	black and white
Driver's display

Sources

http://www.minotor-service.com/en/zsu-23-4-shilka.html

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/zsu_23_4_shilka.htm

https://www.armyrecognition.com/russia_russian_army_vehicles_system_artillery_uk/zsu-23-4_shilka_tracked_self-propelled_anti-aircraft_gun_technical_data_sheet_description_uk.html

Edited August 17, 2022 by kurururocks

[Miki_Hoshii 2,449]

Hello,

 

Your second poll question lacked a 'no' option, all suggestion poll questions require a 'no' or negative answer. I've edited a 'no' option for question two for you.

 

Open for discussion.

[GoddePro 1,147]

I like the idea

but I'm a bit over the fence with this one

Personally, I would like to see it in game, but would prefer Russian SPAA systems like the Yensei to come first 

[Milocat 4,854]

Would be nice to see eventually.  +1.

[Alan_Tovarishch 860]

1 hour ago, GoddePro said:

Personally, I would like to see it in game, but would prefer Russian SPAA systems like the Yensei to come first 

One thing doesn't go against the other

Edited March 28, 2020 by Alan_Tovarishch

[GoddePro 1,147]

48 minutes ago, Alan_Tovarishch said:

One thing doesn't go against the other

not at all

which is why you have a +1 from me

[eleks12 1,079]

+1 would be a great SPAA for 9.0 / 9.7 

[WulfPack 1,693]

+1

[FreedomTM 56]

what about something between 4.7  and 7.7 its totally empty

[Alan_Tovarishch 860]

1 hour ago, FreedomTM said:

what about something between 4.7  and 7.7 its totally empty

there are other suggestions for SPAAs filling that gap

[FreedomTM 56]

On 09/04/2020 at 19:49, Alan_Tovarishch said:

there are other suggestions for SPAAs filling that gap

still nothing has been added so far i mean first they should fix 4.7-7.7

Edited April 10, 2020 by FreedomTM

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

[SrNowel@psn 42]

+1 it will be very usefull to take down g91 r3

 

 

[DreamADream4Me 2,838]

+1

 

On 21/04/2020 at 22:19, *SrNowel said:

+1 it will be very usefull to take down g91 r3

 

Agreed! Those things are an absolute terminal disease and they get spammed more than hellcats sometimes. :(

[SXTREME 1,501]

8.7 sounds reasonable to me, considering how Igla cannot pull that many G's making it pretty easy to avoid but could be extremely effective against jets taking hard exposed turns. +1

Edited September 17, 2020 by SXTREME

[Savanne 455]

9.0BR is the maximum this thing can go. Because otherwise it will get in the other SAM range.

It is indeed needed, the same way as the 4.7-7.7BR gap needs to be fixed.

[MonkeyBussiness 1,228]

On 26/09/2020 at 19:06, Savanne said:

9.0BR is the maximum this thing can go. Because otherwise it will get in the other SAM range.

It is indeed needed, the same way as the 4.7-7.7BR gap needs to be fixed.

this ^ +1

[traeng 147]

That shilka could fight the G.91 better than other existing SPAA in the soviet tree, zsu-37-2 included.

9.3BR seems good for it, the isue with 9.0 would be the 8.0 planes it could face.

As it is a rather modern variant form the years 2000, it seems okay to put it at 9.3

+1

 

Also,  Alan_Tovarishch, would you mind adding in the tags "ZSU23-4M5" and remove tungunska?

Edited August 13, 2021 by traeng

[Yontzee 1,673]

Solid AA +1

[Kingtiez@live 606]

+1

Edited January 12, 2023 by Kingtiez@live

[WilderHans 415]

Would be good addition to deny the CAS at 8.7 the free lunch they are getting right now. 

[JEI2 5,766]

+1

[NAYEONnaise 1,936]

+1, if USA got its first MANPADS, the LAV-AD, then why not Russia? USSR 8.7-10.0 suffers because of CAS spam, not just because of the brainlet TURMS players.

Edited April 6, 2022 by NAYEONnaise

[Yontzee 1,673]

~9.7-10.0 would probably be a good spot for it.

[Raldi92 2,923]

 @Alan_Tovarishch +1 this is badly needed . You might want to change the title of the suggestion though because the correct designation is ZSU-23-4M4 or for short Shilka M4 .

 

 

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