Daliy Reward

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

What am I missing besides the award???

[Bunny 宝妮 1,477]

4 hours ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

What am I missing besides the award???

It is because you didn't get the most kills in your team in addition to no deaths. The requirement on the badge is having outdated information.

 

Here is a forum indicating the updated requirements for each achievements.

• In order to achieve the award bullet proof, you have to:
  • Earn the MOST kills in your team
  • Do not loss your vehicle

 

 

Hope this helps!

[anyuser 5,136]

Wasn't it even most kills of all players in both teams (may be equal to somebody who died)?

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

6 hours ago, LadySenorita said:

It is because you didn't get the most kills in your team in addition to no deaths. The requirement on the badge is having outdated information.

 

Here is a forum indicating the updated requirements for each achievements.

• In order to achieve the award bullet proof, you have to:
  • Earn the MOST kills in your team
  • Do not loss your vehicle

 

 

Hope this helps!

I appreciate the response but these were changed at the end of 2020...The updated requirement you quoted is actually the "Survivor" award as of yesterday...I am sure gaijin knows what is going on and just doesn't care about it...Thanks...

3 hours ago, anyuser said:

Wasn't it even most kills of all players in both teams (may be equal to somebody who died)?

Doesn't have to be the most kills, just cannot exceed 4 kills and have no deaths...Survivor is the most kills on either team with no deaths...

[Bunny 宝妮 1,477]

23 minutes ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

I appreciate the response but these were changed at the end of 2020...The updated requirement you quoted is actually the "Survivor" award as of yesterday...I am sure gaijin knows what is going on and just doesn't care about it...Thanks...

Oh yea...I just realized this too. Well, looks like the information for award requirement is rather confusing and contradicting. I am just as confused as you are right now.

 

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

3 minutes ago, LadySenorita said:

Oh yea...I just realized this too. Well, looks like the information for award requirement is rather confusing and contradicting. I am just as confused as you are right now.

 

They just want to make battle pass impossible unless you spend money...

[anyuser 5,136]

42 minutes ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

They just want to make battle pass impossible unless you spend money...

To be honest, a system where you have to play more or less every day for several matches is build for that anyway.

 

1 hour ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

Doesn't have to be the most kills, just cannot exceed 4 kills and have no deaths...Survivor is the most kills on either team with no deaths...

Yeah, mixed those up. Noticed when I got it today.

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

Oh look, got "Bulletproof" for the 2nd time this day 'cept I dint...Wonder why gaijin mods don't respond since they are supposed to be responsible adults who are here to help the players...

[anyuser 5,136]

Maybe you need the highest score of the match?
I mean, Bulletproof reads like Survivor minus most kills of all players.

 

Maybe the added highest score instead.

Maybe you need to be place 1 to X in the end...

[sardinha08 1,031]

I sounds like it's almost impossible to get a Bullet Proof award since you must have more kills than anyone without dying but you can't get more than 4 or else it will turn into a Survivor. Probably only doable on those 3 min matches. Much easier to go for Survivor. 

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

11 minutes ago, sardinha08 said:

I sounds like it's almost impossible to get a Bullet Proof award since you must have more kills than anyone without dying but you can't get more than 4 or else it will turn into a Survivor. Probably only doable on those 3 min matches. Much easier to go for Survivor. 

The way it reads is 4 kills only with no deaths and have a higher score than anyone else who has no deaths an only 4 kills...Survivor is no deaths and more kills than anyone else on either team, which if someone gets 10 kills with 8 deaths and I get 9 kills and no deaths I get nothing...I just got Bulletproof about a week ago so gaijin mebbe adjusted the fine print and made another non disclosed change...In one of the last 2 battle passes there was a requirement to get 20 Bulletproof awards so I just shot down 4 planes per match and got it pretty easy...

32 minutes ago, anyuser said:

Maybe you need the highest score of the match?
I mean, Bulletproof reads like Survivor minus most kills of all players.

 

Maybe the added highest score instead.

Maybe you need to be place 1 to X in the end...

Highest score would only apply if several people had 4 kills and no deaths with the highest scoring person supposedly getting the award...

[sardinha08 1,031]

4 minutes ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

The way it reads is 4 kills only with no deaths and have a higher score than anyone else who has no deaths an only 4 kills...Survivor is no deaths and more kills than anyone else on either team, which if someone gets 10 kills with 8 deaths and I get 9 kills and no deaths I get nothing...I just got Bulletproof about a week ago so gaijin mebbe adjusted the fine print and made another non disclosed change...In one of the last 2 battle passes there was a requirement to get 20 Bulletproof awards so I just shot down 4 planes per match and got it pretty easy...

No surprising if they changed it without notice, since they've done just that in Ground AB Daily Tasks where kills made by CAS planes used to count and now they don't.

[RytisLTU1 2,585]

Hmm maybe someone got more kills in one plane(e.g. 5), then died and respawned like normal and thats why you didnt get it(because you got 4 and someone more)?

I know it says "Havent lost vehicle" but maybe its just poor wording? That would be my guess.

Wait why does it say "Cant be more than 4"? Shouldnt it be more than 4, not less?

Edited August 15, 2021 by RytisLTU1

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

1 hour ago, RytisLTU1 said:

Hmm maybe someone got more kills in one plane(e.g. 5), then died and respawned like normal and thats why you didnt get it(because you got 4 and someone more)?

I know it says "Havent lost vehicle" but maybe its just poor wording? That would be my guess.

Wait why does it say "Cant be more than 4"? Shouldnt it be more than 4, not less?

"Wait why does it say "Cant be more than 4"?"...Cause at 5 kills you are working on Survivor unless you lose a plane which in that case it becomes Terror of the Sky which has a maximum of 11 kills to qualify for and the highest number of kills on either team regardless of deaths...gaijin just doesn't like Klowns I guess...

Edited August 15, 2021 by HochgeborenKlown

[RytisLTU1 2,585]

2 minutes ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

"Wait why does it say "Cant be more than 4"?"...Cause at 5 kills you are working on Survivor unless you lose a plane which in that case it becomes Terror of the Sky which has a minimum of 11 kills to qualify for and the highest number of kills on either team regardless of deaths...gaijin just doesn't like Klowns I guess...

That is wayyyyy too confusing for new players NGL

Edited August 15, 2021 by RytisLTU1

[sardinha08 1,031]

1 hour ago, RytisLTU1 said:

Wait why does it say "Cant be more than 4"? Shouldnt it be more than 4, not less?

If it's more than 5 you'll get Survivor award instead.

[RytisLTU1 2,585]

1 minute ago, sardinha08 said:

If it's more than 5 you'll get Survivor award instead.

Yea, @HochgeborenKlown already explained

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

2 minutes ago, RytisLTU1 said:

That is wayyyyy too confusing for new players NGL

That's what they do...

2 minutes ago, sardinha08 said:

If it's more than 5 you'll get Survivor award instead.

As long as you don't die and have more kills than anyone else...

 

[sardinha08 1,031]

3 minutes ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

Cause at 5 kills you are working on Survivor unless you lose a plane which in that case it becomes Terror of the Sky which has a minimum of 11 kills to qualify for and the highest number of kills on either team regardless of deaths...gaijin just doesn't like Klowns I guess...

Terror of the Sky doesn't have a minimum, Hero of the Sky does and it's 12 kills.

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Awards

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

1 minute ago, sardinha08 said:

Terror of the Sky doesn't have a minimum, Hero of the Sky does and it's 12 kills.

https://wiki.warthunder.com/Awards

Yah, I corrected that to "maximum"...Got my "M's" mixed up...

[sardinha08 1,031]

4 minutes ago, HochgeborenKlown said:

As long as you don't die and have more kills than anyone else...

Bulletproof mentions targets, so it may be ground and air kills combined, on Survivor it mentions vehicles so I'm pretty sure that only vehicles controlled by players count. 

Edited August 15, 2021 by sardinha08

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

Sent this thread to a tech mod...wonder what he will say...

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

1 minute ago, sardinha08 said:

Bulletproof mentions targets, so it may be ground and air kills combined, on Survivor it mentions vehicles so I'm pretty sure that only planes controlled by players count. 

That could be since gaijin plays with wording all the time, but it doesn't really address it like that and my daily has multiple awards for bombers destroying ground vehicles or naval targets...Hero and Terror of the Sky both reference most destroyed aircraft...Thunderer and Antimech both reference most destroyed A.I. Ground units...Survivor references most Enemy Vehicles destroyed and Bulletproof references Targets. destroyed...It would be typical of them to change what each requirement means without telling us...All my Survivor and Bulletproof awards have come from destroying aircraft, and the Medal for 100 Survivor awards in the American tree has all been from aircraft kills...

[bearteeth 139]

The bottom line here seems to be that Bulletproof just has the wrong tooltip. It makes sense for it to work exactly the same as Survivor, since it's obviously the lower-value complement to Survivor the same way that Terror of the Sky is the lower-value complement to Hero of the Sky or Antimech is the lower-value complement to Thunderer. That's why you have those weird "no more than X" requirements on those things. So if the tooltip is indicating that it works differently from Survivor, the tooltip is probably bogus and needs fixing.

 

Also Aerial Superiority is my favorite challenge by a long shot; even faster than On and On but just as likely to happen without paying any attention to it. If it's stubborn for some reason or you're in a hurry, it's super easy to cheese by going for Balancer by just uptiering one of the many OP 2.7s to 4.0*, or else antimech/thunderer is fairly trivial if you focus soft targets. The ones that drive me insane are the "...and win" ones, because it feels like you get dumped into the worst teams on the planet (pareidolia for sure but it still feels bad man) whenever you have that as part of your challenge.

 

*I know this works even for the T3 version even though you're obviously doing it with a T2, but I'm not sure if you just need a t3 in your lineup or if you actually need to fly the t3 during the match.

[HochgeborenKlown 1,276]

1 hour ago, bearteeth said:

The bottom line here seems to be that Bulletproof just has the wrong tooltip. It makes sense for it to work exactly the same as Survivor, since it's obviously the lower-value complement to Survivor the same way that Terror of the Sky is the lower-value complement to Hero of the Sky or Antimech is the lower-value complement to Thunderer. That's why you have those weird "no more than X" requirements on those things. So if the tooltip is indicating that it works differently from Survivor, the tooltip is probably bogus and needs fixing.

 

Also Aerial Superiority is my favorite challenge by a long shot; even faster than On and On but just as likely to happen without paying any attention to it. If it's stubborn for some reason or you're in a hurry, it's super easy to cheese by going for Balancer by just uptiering one of the many OP 2.7s to 4.0*, or else antimech/thunderer is fairly trivial if you focus soft targets. The ones that drive me insane are the "...and win" ones, because it feels like you get dumped into the worst teams on the planet (pareidolia for sure but it still feels bad man) whenever you have that as part of your challenge.

 

*I know this works even for the T3 version even though you're obviously doing it with a T2, but I'm not sure if you just need a t3 in your lineup or if you actually need to fly the t3 during the match.

The tool tip is what they changed Bulletproof and Survivor to last November when that battle pass started, so it is possible they have changed the meanings again and just like last time not bothered to tell us...I am only flying Tier 3 and above right now simply because of the battle pass objective of 30 wins with at least 1 kill per win using Tier 3 and above...Of course my teams are mostly composed of playstation players who will bring a Premium T-Bolt or Mustang into the game with a pair of reserves as backup so winning simply doesn't happen very often...