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  1. 1. Would you like to see the Iranian Ground Forces tech tree in the game?

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On 20/02/2022 at 16:31, KnightSepehr said:

Aaah yes the person that spreads hate against his own country and brothers , Stop the self humilation and get alife 

Aaah yes the person that supporting İSLAMİC republic of iran(for example: oppressing civilians), Stop being an enemy to humanity and get alife

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29 minutes ago, modern_primat said:

Aaah yes the person that supporting İSLAMİC republic of iran(for example: oppressing civilians), Stop being an enemy to humanity and get alife

 

We already have 1935-1945 germany. Really can't get more oppressive than that.

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if you want to go with Iranian forces, i would like to go further into early vehicles

Iranian TNH (related to the Pz 38 )

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Very interesting tree!

Arguably the best contender for a Central-Asian country to get a tree.
Quite in favor of it, although unfortunately it wouldn't come paired with a good air tree to boot.

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I'm not against the addition of an Iranian TT but I have some reservations due to several reasons mainly in relation to their Air TT more specifically their limited options in terms of aircraft to choose from

Personally if we really want a Middle Eastern TT to be a counterweight to the Israeli TT, an Egypto-Syrian (UAR) TT will be a better pick since at least they have a more comprehensive Air TT than Iran's thought they'll suffer from the same "Copy n Paste outside of modification of/minor differences from existing aircraft" problem as an Iranian Air TT would

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2 hours ago, FrankCannon said:

Do we really need another copy/paste Russia units nation?

The tree contains 6 vehicles that are functionally similar to western vehicles (US, Brazil, UK), 7 to Eastern (China, Russian) and 27 unique ones.

Perhaps a closer look into what the vehicles offer would be of worth instead of glancing at a picture once and drawing a conclusion :lol2:

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19 minutes ago, Mahiwew said:

The tree contains 6 vehicles that are functionally similar to western vehicles (US, Brazil, UK), 7 to Eastern (China, Russian) and 27 unique ones.

Perhaps a closer look into what the vehicles offer would be of worth instead of glancing at a picture once and drawing a conclusion :lol2:

Today I discovered what tanks are, and what nations uses what tanks. golly.

 

 

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Was not aware Iran had so many unique vehicles. 
But so little is actually known about the vehicles. Especially regarding the Zulfiqars.  Just few spec-sheet-esque facts are known.
Also its still not clear what the final production version of Karrar be like (since it looks much different in recent photos from the earlier prototype). And as a result what's the actual difference between this current Karrar variant and a T-72 "upgraded to Karrar standard". Like the difference between T-72M1(2020) and Karrar is negligible. T-72M1(2020) looks just like the current Karrar, just without few ERA panels on either side of the gun mantlet.

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Okay, so I haven't checked the thread for quite a long time because some of the replies were quite..... "spicy" to say the least.

 

I understand about the whole political stuff behind Iran, but I don't think that's the point of my proposal. We all know that almost every military hardware were made to kill the opposition, but War Thunder is not the game about politics, it's about military hardware.

 

I kind of understand the negative reaction behind the addition of Israel, partly because of it being incomplete and were mostly consisted of what many will call a "copy-paste". But many people has also mixing the political aspect into it as well.

 

If we were to exclude the military hardware from the game simply because of ideology, shouldn't the half of the German and Japanese tech tree, the PRC and early KMT part of the Chinese tree, and the Soviet/Russia tree be removed due to their "questionable" policy? Especially when some of the vehicle featured in-game were present in the "recent events" in Ukraine?

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So, I've just made a visual tech tree in WT Tech Tree maker to make things a bit clearer.

 

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On 16/04/2022 at 09:06, David5255 said:

Can we add the tusan ifv 

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As much as I wanted to add this weird Puma-esque IFV, I can't find any info about its armaments other than 23 mm gun. So, if it doesn't have any ATGM, I can't really find a place to fit it. Although I guess they might considered fitting it with ATGM at some point.

 

On 15/04/2022 at 17:49, Raiden_Black said:

Iranian tank: T-72 with T-80UD turret

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Thanks for image.

From what I can gather, this is supposed to be an upgrade of the T-72M1 by the Ukranian contractors. This is ultimately rejected after evaluation though.

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Here's the extra stuff I've found while making the tech tree that's too ridculous to be added into my proposal:

 

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Heidah 7

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Basically a BTR-60 with an upgraded gun and an ERA slapped on it. I don't know if the ERA will be counterproductive to its protection or not.

Banihashem ATV

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Basically a modern version of the Vespa with recoiless rifle. This thing is literally an ATV with an ATGM slapped on it.

Fallagh

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This is supposed to be an "ultra-light IFV" prototype armed only with a remote-controlled autocannons.

 

 

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On 10/03/2022 at 16:41, Mahiwew said:

Very interesting tree!

Arguably the best contender for a Central-Asian country to get a tree.
Quite in favor of it, although unfortunately it wouldn't come paired with a good air tree to boot.

 

Well we already have two trees who's air is just copy paste to give the unique ground cas (China and Israel) so it doesn't seem like gaijin views that as too much of a problem.

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Since there's people working on a Iranian Ground TT, I wonder if anybody is working on a Air and/or Heli TT to go with the Ground TT

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9 hours ago, AspandaIV said:

Since there's people working on a Iranian Ground TT, I wonder if anybody is working on a Air and/or Heli TT to go with the Ground TT

Iran did have some indiginous and interesting helicopter, I might have made a suggestion about it later.

 

However, the air force part is admittedly lacking. Mainly because Iran only managed to built their own aircraft in 2010s (which is still mostly a reverse-engineered American plane), so the best I can do to make them less of a "copy-paste" is to give a "weapon switch" planes, like NATO planes with Russian/Chinese weapon system and vice-versa.

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19 hours ago, Generalmehdi said:

How is it possible that a small army like Israel is present in the game but Iran, which has two armies, is not present in this game?

 

How many unique and implementable vehicles does Iran have if we consider the nation addable? Excluding reverse-engineered, copy, and imported / modified vehicles.

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I still support this idea. I am most looking forward to an Iranian tech tree in some form in WT. The vehicles are unique, and Iran has a lot of drones and helicopters to pick from too. 

 

I have found some more vehicles which you can add to your suggestion. These used to be in my old Arab-Iranian tech tree suggestion, before it was removed. I would recommend including some more sources for each one; Gaijin has become more strict with suggestions since then. Some of them are sort of similar to the tanks already in this suggestion, so maybe some of these could be premium or event vehicles.

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian Modified BTR-60PB

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The upgraded BTR-60PB is armed with a 23mm gun and protected by reactive armor. Previously, the Organization of Jihad for the Research and Self-Sufficiency of the Ground Forces of the Iranian Army in the Heydar-7 project also proposed a similar thing. In both cases, the main question is how the thin armor of the armored personnel carrier will survive to the explosion of reactive armor tiles. 

 

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_july_2020_global_security_army_industry/iran_irgc_unveils_new_armored_personnel_carriers_and_upgraded_t-72m_main_battle_tank.html

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian modified Ford Mutt TOW

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian KM410

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Type 59

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian modified Toyota FJ40 with ZPU-2

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Shayyad MLRS

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian M38A1

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian Ch’ŏnma-ho 1st generation

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian KM410 with Type 63 MRLS

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Some more camouflages for the Iranian T-55A and T-62 and M60A1...

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16 hours ago, Borotovas said:

I still support this idea. I am most looking forward to an Iranian tech tree in some form in WT. The vehicles are unique, and Iran has a lot of drones and helicopters to pick from too. 

 

I have found some more vehicles which you can add to your suggestion. These used to be in my old Arab-Iranian tech tree suggestion, before it was removed. I would recommend including some more sources for each one; Gaijin has become more strict with suggestions since then. Some of them are sort of similar to the tanks already in this suggestion, so maybe some of these could be premium or event vehicles.

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian Modified BTR-60PB

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The upgraded BTR-60PB is armed with a 23mm gun and protected by reactive armor. Previously, the Organization of Jihad for the Research and Self-Sufficiency of the Ground Forces of the Iranian Army in the Heydar-7 project also proposed a similar thing. In both cases, the main question is how the thin armor of the armored personnel carrier will survive to the explosion of reactive armor tiles. 

 

https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_july_2020_global_security_army_industry/iran_irgc_unveils_new_armored_personnel_carriers_and_upgraded_t-72m_main_battle_tank.html

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian modified Ford Mutt TOW

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian KM410

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Type 59

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian modified Toyota FJ40 with ZPU-2

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Shayyad MLRS

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian M38A1

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100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian Ch’ŏnma-ho 1st generation

 

100px-Flag_of_Iran.svg.png Iranian KM410 with Type 63 MRLS

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Some more camouflages for the Iranian T-55A and T-62 and M60A1...

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On 26/04/2022 at 14:22, NotKringe said:

However, the air force part is admittedly lacking. Mainly because Iran only managed to built their own aircraft in 2010s (which is still mostly a reverse-engineered American plane), so the best I can do to make them less of a "copy-paste" is to give a "weapon switch" planes, like NATO planes with Russian/Chinese weapon system and vice-versa.

 

I think it would be interesting to see some "weapon switch" planes, like the Iranian F-14. Same with their ground vehicles. 

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