leopard Leopard 2 MBT "Technologieträger": The Advanced Protected Leopard (Archived)

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

Leopard 2 MBT "Technologieträger": Advanced Technology Demonstrator

 

Hi and welcome to by 6th suggestion, which is about the MBT "Technologieträger"

After I already suggested other vehicles, mainly the russian Flankers, its time for something new, a Tank ! Since we finally received Hardkill APS in game along with Challanger 2 Black Night and T-55AMD-1, I think other Nations should get thiers to. This one is, in my opinion, Germanys easiest-to-impliement-option for a top tier MBT with Hardkill APS, since the base vehicle (Leopard 2PL / 2A4) and other parts (e.g. add-on armor) are already existing in game.

The better alternative:

 

First of all:

• This is a suggestion for a Tank we could see in game at some point in the Future , that doesn´t mean next Patch or somewhere in the near Future
• I don´t want to force Gaijin to rush Top-tier ground in any way
• Feel free to share more Data and / or correct me if something is wrong
• Discuss respectfully, any aggressive kind or verbal abuse will be reported, the Forum rules also apply here

 

• ROSY smoke screen System with 40mm granades, vertically pivotable - Manual and System controlled 

Basic Background

The emergence of the new Russian main battle tank T-14 Armata has shown that the German tanks are no longer up to date. The Ministry of Defense demanded the redevelopment of a Leopard successor. However, according to current estimates, this new tank should not be able to be introduced before 2030. But in addition to the constant improvement of the Leopard, currently in version 2A7(V), further research and development has already been carried out on the basis of the Leopard 2. As a result, the MBT Revolution is now emerging.

Overall

In addition to the chassis, the turret was also taken over from the Leopard 2A4 unchanged. On the other hand, the entire interior concept, optronics, fire control, communication and command technology as well as the main and secondary armament including self-protection systems have been completely redesigned and thus brought up to the latest state of the art.

In order to better protect the crew, not only was the armor improved, but some defense systems were also modernized or newly introduced. The tank has a new smoke machine with 40mm cartridges, which can now be fired manually or via the fire control system which can be triggert by the LWRs. In addition, the smoke throwers can be rotated separately, rotating the entire tower is no longer necessary. The resulting fog should also be denser and larger and thus be able to distract the enemy more.

The SEOSS enables accurate engagement of targets while on the move, both day and night and under conditions of limited visibility. It is equipped with a 2 axis stabilizer, 3rd gen thermal, high resolution camera and other useful features.

The core of the MBT "Technologieträger" is a standard Leopard 2A4 but upgraded to the Leopard "Evolution"-Standards, with massive additional AMAP armor on the turret, front and side hull. The turret armor is identical to that of the Leopard 2PL already in the game, the front hull armor was equipped with the armor package of the Swedish Strv 122, among other things.
According to sources, the sideskirts should have a protection of at least 600-700mm RHAe at a steering angle of 60° (this can possibly result in ~300mm at 90° / flat angle). In tests, the AMAP sideskirts were able to withstand a tandem missile with up to 750mm pen at an angle of 90° (flat).

 

Spoiler

However, this is the 1st gen of AMAP, the protection of the 2nd gen AMAP is unknown, so I suggest the AMAP 1st gen for Leopard 2PL (which should have it in the game anyway) and MBT "Technologieträger" to use.

Against armor-piercing shells, the new AMAP-ADS (Advanced Modular Armor Protection - Active Defense System) was installed, which allows shells fired at the tank to be intercepted by directed energy projectiles.

Mounted on the turret is a 12.7mm machine gun operated by the loader in the tank. It is supported by new cameras with night vision devices and a laser-based distance meter.

The tank's main weapon remains a 120mm L/55 cannon for the time being, which is now 1 meter longer than the L/44, thus increasing the projectile speed and thus the penetrating power. An upgrade to the L/51 130mm cannon is already planned by Rheinmetall.

Like the Leopard 2A6, which is already in the game, the "Technologieträger"´s L/55 fires with the same ammunition, thats including DM11, DM33, DM53, DM53A1 and DM63, as well as the new „PELE“ and "PELE-PEN". The newly developed PELE is an inert cartridge. It contains no explosives and is therefore extremely safe to use. Upon hitting the target, the low-density material inside the projectile is compressed enough to rupture the warhead, resulting in a large number of fragments traveling solely in the projectile's trajectory. This is particularly advantageous with semi-hard targets. PELE can be upgraded to dual-purpose ammunition or armor-piercing rounds.

 

Spoiler

 

• PELE round - Not much about it avialible, subject for more research

 

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•   SEOSS - Stabalized Electro-Optical Sighting System - Featuring 3rd gen Thermals

 

•   Rheinmetall´s 130mm L/51, planned to be fittied on in future

AMAP-ADS

There is a total of nine AMAP-ADS devices around the entire turret, equipped with three small multi-frequenzy pre-warning planar Radars, passive Electro-Optical Sensors and tactical Laser Radars, which have the advantage of almost not being detected by the enemy (since there radar signature is low) and the speed of the incoming threat is nearly irrelevant. The AMAP-ADS system is so far the only one that relies on "Opto-Electronically diractable energetic charges with low volume expansion" countermeasures, which pose almost no danger to people and animals in the immediate vicinity, in contrast to the Drozd system, whose splitter even at 1000m can still be dangerous in the distance. On the MBT "Technologieträger" there are four AMAP-ADS modules on each the right and left turret side, another one next to the main gun, while each module has only one charge.

The multi-frequency radars detect a threat 10m to 35m before impact, targets are attempted to be soft-killed here, the Electro-Optical Sensors cover everything in a range of 2m around the tank, 1m before impact the hardkill countermeasure is used to defeat the threat. The Sensors, Soft and Hardkill devices also cover the top of the tank, so aerial strikes can also be defeated as well.

The AMAP-ADS system is also being tested on Marder 1A3 and to a lesser extent at Boxer IFV as well as Lynx, in the side skirt mounted version known as "StrikeShield".

 

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Thanks for your time, hope you liked it  - Little thanks to @Yoshi_E for helping out with information

 

German APS Vehicles discussion thread;
Feel free to share information for multiple Vehicles or suggestion Ideas here:

 

[Will add more if there are some (more) important / declassified things]

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Sources:

https://rheinmetall-defence.com/de/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/vehicle_systems/armoured_tracked_vehicles/index.php

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/protection_systems/protection_systems_land/index.php

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/public_relations/news/detail_1408.php

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/c4i_systems/reconnaissance_and_sensor_systems

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/de/rheinmetall_defence/public_relations/news/archiv/archive2012/aktuellesdetailansicht_4_1216.php /stabilized_electro_optical_sighting_system/index.php

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/weapons_and_ammunition/direct_fire/mittelkalibermunition/index.php

https://www.ads-protection.org/products/functional_principle/

https://www.ads-protection.org/

https://www.ads-protection.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/RPS-folder-030719.pdf

https://www.deagel.com/Protection Systems/AMAP/a002202

https://militaryleak.com/2018/01/24/ads/

https://newatlas.com/rheinmetall-ads-live-fire-test/21278/

https://web.archive.org/web/20111008031733/http://www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/press-coverage.html?file=tl_files%2Fresources%2Fcontent-pdfs%2FS&T Int Ed. II_09_netz Active Hardkill Protection Systems.pdf

http://www.military-today.com/tanks/revolution.htm

http://fighting-vehicles.com/leopard-2-mbt-revolution/

https://www.militaer-wissen.de/mbt-technologietraeger-von-rheinmetall-vorgestellt/

https://www.armyrecognition.com/february_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/rheinmetall_future_mbt_main_battle_tank_mgcs_main_ground_combat_system_with_130mm_cannon_11802161.html

https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2017/05/29/mbt-revolution-by-rheinmetall/

https://www.defenceprocurementinternational.com/features/land/us-army-to-significantly-test-strikeshield-active-protection-system

https://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2015/08/rheinmetall-mbt-technologietrager.html

https://below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.com/2016/05/leopard-2ri-in-production.html

web.archive.org/www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/

Edited June 19, 2023 by WreckingAres283
Changes due valid, additional information; typo fixes; added additional pictures

[kurururocks 210]

On 13/05/2022 at 10:06, WreckingAres283 said:

First of all:

• This is a suggestion for an Aircraft we could see in game at some point in the Future , that doesn´t mean next Patch or somewhere in the near Future

I would be scared to see the Leo 2 flying 

 

Open for discussion

[Ghostmaxi 873]

Dam looks ugly, but why not.

Would also like a 130

Edited May 18, 2022 by Ghostmaxi

[Yontzee 1,675]

This thing is wild +1

[Milocat 4,855]

+1, would be a neat modern German addition with APS.

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

6 hours ago, kurururocks said:

I would be scared to see the Leo 2 flying 

 

Open for discussion

I copied it from my Flanker suggestions, ups - Anyway thx  

 

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

10 hours ago, Milocat said:

+1, would be a neat modern German addition with APS.

 

15 hours ago, Ghostmaxi said:

Dam looks ugly, but why not.

Would also like a 130

More interesting and probably better than the 2A7A1 with Trophy (considering that it has AMAP armor, extra front armor and more APS rounds which are technically superior to Trophy and Iron Fist) - The 130mm L/51 would be neat to 

 

I wonder if Gaijin would also implement the PELE round, I have some doubts : /

 

Anyway, thx for the support ^^

 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by WreckingAres283

[Serkay64 0]

Does the Leopard 2A4 that Rheinmetall used to make this use the C-Tech Composite or just B-Tech?

[eleks12 1,079]

+1

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

On 18/05/2022 at 14:49, Serkay64 said:

Does the Leopard 2A4 that Rheinmetall used to make this use the C-Tech Composite or just B-Tech?

 

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"The MBT Advanced Technology Demonstrator is based on a refurbished standard Leopard 2A4 vehicle in a partly unchanged configuration but with new additional integrated improvements and performance upgrades."

https://rheinmetall-defence.com/de/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/vehicle_systems/armoured_tracked_vehicles/index.php

 

 

Sadly standard according to Rheinmetall as far as I understand it, so B-Tech, but everything else (electronics etc) are on Leopard Evolution standards (as Leopard 2PL).

But as long as Type-C Composite doesn´t change the overall chassis config, it should be technically possible to add it, but Gaijin probly wont add Type-C since its hasn´t been used on the ATD yet.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by WreckingAres283

[The-Bunkers-7@psn 220]

On 13/5/2022 at 10:06, WreckingAres283 said:

Leopard 2 MBT "Technologieträger": demostrador de tecnología avanzada

 

Hola y bienvenido a la séptima sugerencia, que trata sobre el MBT "Technologieträger"

Después de que ya sugerí otros vehículos, principalmente los Flankers rusos, es hora de algo nuevo, ¡un tanque! Dado que finalmente recibimos Hardkill APS en el juego junto con Challanger 2 Black Night y T-55AMD-1, creo que otras naciones deberían hacerlo. Esta es, en mi opinión, la mejor opción de Alemania y probablemente la mejor opción para un MBT de primer nivel con APS.

Por favor, no sean malos, esta es mi primera sugerencia de tanque, si termina bien, sugeriré el Leopard 2A7A1, que tiene el Trofeo israelí APS, a >_>

 

En primer lugar:

• Esta es una sugerencia para un tanque que podríamos ver en el juego en algún momento del futuro , eso no significa el próximo parche o algún lugar en el futuro cercano.
• No quiero obligar a Gaijin a correr terreno de primer nivel de ninguna manera.
• Siéntase libre de compartir más datos y/o corregirme si algo está mal
• Discuta con respeto, cualquier tipo de agresión o abuso verbal será denunciado, las reglas del Foro también se aplican aquí.

 

• Sistema de pantalla de humo ROSY con granadas de 40 mm, pivotable - Manual y controlado por el sistema 

Antecedentes básicos:

La aparición del nuevo tanque de batalla principal ruso T-14 Armata ha demostrado que los tanques alemanes ya no están actualizados. El Ministerio de Defensa exigió la remodelación de un sucesor de Leopard. Sin embargo, según las estimaciones actuales, este nuevo tanque no debería poder introducirse antes de 2030. Pero además de la mejora constante del Leopard, actualmente en la versión 2A7(V), ya se ha llevado a cabo más investigación y desarrollo en el base del Leopard 2. Como resultado, la revolución MBT ahora está emergiendo.

General:

Además del chasis, la torreta también se tomó del Leopard 2A4 sin cambios. Por otro lado, todo el concepto interior, la optrónica, el control de incendios, la tecnología de comunicación y comando, así como el armamento principal y secundario, incluidos los sistemas de autoprotección, se han rediseñado por completo y, por lo tanto, se han actualizado al último estado de la técnica.

Para proteger mejor a la tripulación, no solo se mejoró la armadura, sino que también se modernizaron o se introdujeron nuevos sistemas de defensa. El tanque tiene una nueva máquina de humo con cartuchos de 40 mm, que ahora se puede disparar manualmente o mediante el sistema de control de incendios. Además, los lanzadores de humo se pueden girar por separado, ya no es necesario girar toda la torre. La niebla resultante también debería ser más densa y más grande y así poder distraer más al enemigo.

El SEOSS permite un compromiso preciso de los objetivos mientras está en movimiento, tanto de día como de noche y en condiciones de visibilidad limitada. Está equipado con un estabilizador de 2 ejes, cámara térmica de 3ra generación, cámara de alta resolución y otras características útiles.

El núcleo del MBT "Technologieträger" es un Leopard 2A4 estándar, pero con una enorme armadura adicional AMAP en la torreta, el frente y el casco lateral. El blindaje de la torreta es idéntico al del Leopard 2PL que ya está en el juego, el blindaje del casco delantero estaba equipado con el paquete de blindaje del Strv 122 sueco, entre otras cosas.
Según las fuentes, los faldones laterales deben tener una protección de al menos 600-700 mm RHAe en un ángulo de giro de 60° (esto puede resultar en ~300 mm en un ángulo plano de 90°). En las pruebas, los faldones laterales AMAP pudieron resistir un misil en tándem con una pluma de hasta 750 mm en un ángulo de 90 ° (plano).

 

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Sin embargo, esta es la 1.ª generación de AMAP, se desconoce la protección de la 2.ª generación de AMAP, por lo que sugiero usar la 1.ª generación de AMAP para Leopard 2PL (que debería tenerlo en el juego de todos modos) y MBT "Technologieträger".

Contra los proyectiles perforantes, se instaló el nuevo AMAP-ADS (Advanced Modular Armor Protection - Active Defense System), que permite que los proyectiles disparados contra el tanque sean interceptados por proyectiles de energía dirigida.

Montada en la torreta hay una ametralladora de 12,7 mm operada por el cargador en el tanque. Está respaldado por nuevas cámaras con dispositivos de visión nocturna y un medidor de distancia basado en láser.

El arma principal del tanque sigue siendo un cañón L/55 de 120 mm por el momento, que ahora es 1 metro más largo que el L/44, lo que aumenta la velocidad del proyectil y, por lo tanto, el poder de penetración. Rheinmetall ya planea una actualización del cañón L/51 de 130 mm.

Al igual que el Leopard 2A6, que ya está en el juego, el L/55 del "Technologieträger" dispara con la misma munición, que incluye DM11, DM33, DM53, DM53A1 y DM63, así como el nuevo „PELE“. El PELE recientemente desarrollado es un cartucho inerte. No contiene explosivos y, por lo tanto, es extremadamente seguro de usar. Al golpear el objetivo, el material de baja densidad dentro del proyectil se comprime lo suficiente como para romper la ojiva, lo que da como resultado una gran cantidad de fragmentos que viajan únicamente en la trayectoria del proyectil. Esto es particularmente ventajoso con objetivos semirrígidos. PELE se puede actualizar a munición de doble propósito o rondas perforantes.

 

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• Ronda PELE: no hay mucho al respecto disponible, tema para más investigación

 

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•   SEOSS - Sistema de mira electro-óptico estabilizado - Con térmicas de tercera generación

 

•   Rheinmetall's 130mm L/51, planeado para instalarse en el futuro

ANUNCIOS AMAP:

Hay un total de nueve dispositivos AMAP-ADS alrededor de toda la torre, que a diferencia de Trophy, Iron Fist y Drozd no están equipados con los clásicos radares Doppler, sino con sensores pasivos y radares láser tácticos, que tienen la ventaja de casi no serlo. detectado por el enemigo (ya que no hay firma de radar) y la velocidad de la amenaza entrante es casi irrelevante. El sistema AMAP-ADS es hasta ahora el único que se basa en contramedidas de "cargas energéticas optoelectrónicamente dirigibles con expansión de bajo volumen", que casi no representan peligro para las personas y los animales en las inmediaciones, en contraste con el sistema Drozd, cuyo divisor incluso a 1000 m todavía puede ser peligroso en la distancia. En el MBT "Technologieträger" hay cuatro módulos AMAP-ADS en cada lado derecho e izquierdo de la torreta,

El sistema AMAP-ADS también se está probando en menor medida en Boxer IFV, Lynx y Marder, más conocidas allí como "StrikeShield".

 

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Gracias por tu tiempo, espero que te haya gustado  - Un pequeño agradecimiento a @Yoshi_E por ayudar con informacion

 

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Fuentes:

https://rheinmetall-defence.com/de/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/vehicle_systems/armoured_tracked_vehicles/index.php

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/protection_systems/protection_systems_land/index.php

https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/public_relations/news/detail_1408.php

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https://www.rheinmetall-defence.com/en/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/weapons_and_ammunition/direct_fire/mittelkalibermunition/index.php

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https://www.ads-protection.org/

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https://www.deagel.com/Protection Systems/AMAP/a002202

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https://newatlas.com/rheinmetall-ads-live-fire-test/21278/

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web.archive.org/www.ibd-deisenroth-engineering.de/

+1 King

[Woolfi23456789@psn 28]

So if I understand it correctly it’s basically like a glass cannon at 11.0 with ok physical armor, good APS and high penetration? It would have the most penetration in the game probably if it gets the 130mm gun. I guess it’s a good addition not to op. 
I think it also had the Saab Barracuda multi spectral camouflage net on it the same should be on multiple vehicles in the game. 
 

Edited May 18, 2022 by Woolfi23456789@psn

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

1 minute ago, Woolfi23456789@psn said:

So if I understand it correctly it’s basically like a glass cannon at 11.0 with ok physical armor, good APS and high penetration? It would have the most penetration in the game probably if it gets the 130mm gun. I guess it’s a good addition not to op. 

 

Well, yes - I will add it here or make a seperate suggestion for the 130mm version when ever its a thing IRL - We have to wait n see, but the AMAP-ADS makes this thing damn good protected

 

[Woolfi23456789@psn 28]

13 minutes ago, WreckingAres283 said:

 

Well, yes - I will add it here or make a seperate suggestion for the 130mm version when ever its a thing IRL - We have to wait n see, but the AMAP-ADS makes this thing damn good protected

 

Yes with the Saab Barracuda camouflage net reducing the thermal signature it will be hard to detect and the APS shouldn’t be able to be overwhelmed because it has multiple independent sensors for each module. 

[Fireraid233 4,274]

+1

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

1 hour ago, Woolfi23456789@psn said:

Yes with the Saab Barracuda camouflage net reducing the thermal signature it will be hard to detect and the APS shouldn’t be able to be overwhelmed because it has multiple independent sensors for each module. 

Exactly, really hope they add camo net to then

Edited May 18, 2022 by WreckingAres283

[BagelIsMyWaifu 838]

14 hours ago, Serkay64 said:

Does the Leopard 2A4 that Rheinmetall used to make this use the C-Tech Composite or just B-Tech?

Likely its either a mix with C turret and B hull or completely C tech.

6 hours ago, Woolfi23456789@psn said:

the APS shouldn’t be able to be overwhelmed because it has multiple independent sensors for each module. 

Most notable is its extremely fast reaction time (thanks to being module and not launcher based). Compared to Trophy which needs more than 500 meters distance to intercept a dart at its maximum speed of 1700 m/s, ADS needs around 2 meters.

On 13/05/2022 at 16:06, WreckingAres283 said:

Mounted on the turret is a 12.7mm machine gun operated by the loader in the tank. It is supported by new cameras with night vision devices and a laser-based distance meter.

It had mounted both a 40mm grenade launcher and 12.7mm on that slot, the weapon station can take either of them

On 13/05/2022 at 16:06, WreckingAres283 said:

PELE round - Not much about it avialible, subject for more research

Rheinmetall has this helpful graphic

PELE basically trades penetration for vastly increased post penetration damage. The penetration destoys itself and the surrounding armor during the penetration, which results in much higher spall

[Woolfi23456789@psn 28]

5 hours ago, BagelIsMyWaifu said:

Likely its either a mix with C turret and B hull or completely C tech.

Most notable is its extremely fast reaction time (thanks to being module and not launcher based). Compared to Trophy which needs more than 500 meters distance to intercept a dart at its maximum speed of 1700 m/s, ADS needs around 2 meters.

It had mounted both a 40mm grenade launcher and 12.7mm on that slot, the weapon station can take either of them

Rheinmetall has this helpful graphic

PELE basically trades penetration for vastly increased post penetration damage. The penetration destoys itself and the surrounding armor during the penetration, which results in much higher spall

The weapons station is also fully stabilized and has thermals. The 40mm grenade launcher can also use air burst ammunition and has  the ability to let it explode around a target (5 meters behind and in front of it) automatically.  The PELE also has a flatter trajectory because it is basically a normal APDSFS with the special filler. The AMAP-ADS would be nice because the model has also been used/tested on the Marder, CV90, SEP and the Patria AMV so multiple nations have access to it. 

Edited May 19, 2022 by Woolfi23456789@psn

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

On 19/05/2022 at 06:03, BagelIsMyWaifu said:

Rheinmetall has this helpful graphic

PELE basically trades penetration for vastly increased post penetration damage. The penetration destoys itself and the surrounding armor during the penetration, which results in much higher spall

 

Saw that to, but I couldn´t find something like penetration values etc etc - Anyway, I will include this, thx  (Edited)

 

On 19/05/2022 at 08:25, Woolfi23456789@psn said:

The AMAP-ADS would be nice because the model has also been used/tested on the Marder, CV90, SEP and the Patria AMV so multiple nations have access to it. 

 

StrikeShield is slightly less powerfull on these vehicles and in a differnt form applied to them, but yea they would cool to see - Boxer IFV also got it for testing

 

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Edited May 21, 2022 by WreckingAres283

[Lord_Prism 1,826]

+1 from me, Other nations will be getting their APS equipped vehicles soon enough, and this tank uses known quantities in game for the armor, gun and chassis, all while bringing a hardkill APS system to Germany (also the turret base armor would indeed be C-tech most likely, given D-tech is still in testing)

[WreckingAres283 4,262]

7 minutes ago, Lord_Prism said:

also the turret base armor would indeed be C-tech most likely, given D-tech is still in testing

 

Rheinmetall themself claim that the 2A4 chassis and turret is in an unchanged configuration (see one of my posts above), but I don´t want to deny the possibility of Type-C composite armor.

Yea overall, its an 2PL, paired with the best things of 2A6 and Strv 122, as well as the possibly best hard kill APS protection system currently avialable  

(The PELE round would also be quit interessting to see)

 

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25 minutes ago, WreckingAres283 said:

 

Rheinmetall themself claim that the 2A4 chassis and turret is in an unchanged configuration (see one of my posts above), but I don´t want to deny the possibility of Type-C composite armor.

Yea overall, its an 2PL, paired with the best things of 2A6 and Strv 122, as well as the possibly best hard kill APS protection system currently avialable  

(The PELE round would also be quit interessting to see)

 

Unchanged, it depends entirely on the block of 2A4s its based on, later blocks got C tech and it seems that the In-game 2A4 is a late block model, its (supposedly) C-tech

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11 minutes ago, Lord_Prism said:

Unchanged, it depends entirely on the block of 2A4s its based on, later blocks got C tech and it seems that the In-game 2A4 is a late block model, its (supposedly) C-tech

 

Hard to tell which block it is, Rheinmetall claims only this

 

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"...The MBT Advanced Technology Demonstrator is based on a refurbished standard Leopard 2A4 vehicle in a partly unchanged configuration but with new additional integrated improvements and performance upgrades . ..."

https://rheinmetall-defence.com/de/rheinmetall_defence/systems_and_products/vehicle_systems/armoured_tracked_vehicles/index.php

 

But within of the Leopard "Evolution" standards the ATD has, its most likely Type-C composite, so you are right

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by WreckingAres283

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3 minutes ago, WreckingAres283 said:

 

Hard to tell which block it is, Rheinmetall claims only this

 

 

But within of the Leopard "Evolution" standards the ATD has, its most likely Type-C composite, so you are right

 

And logically, if you're gonna put all this effort into uparmoring a 2A4, you'll replace the turret base armor while you're at it

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I did a bit of research on the APS and it can stop rounds that go 1700m/s+ so nothing can go through it even at point blank range as far as I know. This sounds op but due to the layout it is easy to overcome by breaking the sensors (unlike the version on the Marder were the sensors overlap).
The system will detect a threat at a range of 35m. At the same time it will try to soft kill the threat, if this doesn’t work the optical sensors will trigger the explosive. I also think it tells the crew the direction where the threat came from. 
The tank also has a laser warning receiver( I don’t know if you have mentioned that).