major update War Thunder "Sky Guardians" - Changelog

[Nicolaser 2,024]

Hunter 58 on German tree...

 

Am I the only one to see how gaijin is inconsistent when they add foreign countries in the game?

 

It incorporate german tech it goes to Germany (Canadian Léo, df105...)

 

The crew which use it speak German it goes to Germany even if there's technologies from other country depicted in game (kuirassier and now hunter f58) can't wait to see mirage 3S at the top of the German tech tree because "muuh  the pilot might speak German"

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by Nicolaser

[warner7 81]

Well, the Type 62 now has a power nerf bringing it to Type 63 standards. It now has lower power to weight ratio compared to the 63, lower top speed and is not amphibious! Is it still 6.7 material? I guess not.

 

The speed changes of Gaz trucks are welcome with wide arms!

[Favnirbane 182]

1 hour ago, _____HK416_____ said:

Did not mention change to PTZ89 on the changelog, and the change for vertical angles of HMG on China/Soviet tanks

The changes towards the elevation angles of the HMGs on Chinese tanks were datamined: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/11csn64/datamine_dev_server_223144_224020_part_3/

What changes have been done to the PTZ89?

 

[Favnirbane 182]

3 hours ago, Stona said:

F-80C-10 — 1,000 lb AN-M65A1, 500 lb AN-M64A1, and 250 lb AN-M57 bombs have been added, as well as the Мк 78 fuel pod

Supposed to be incendiary bombs instead of fuel pod?

[mrbin2468 34]

[Knightmare49 119]

So let me get this straight, the main highlight of this thing has at 9.7 are:

• Countermeasures (60 of them)
• 2x AIM-9J (Not the best, but still works fine on these BRs)
• 2x AGM-65s

But, these two:

Who pretty much have the shortest range 20G Overload IR missiles in the game, lack of Flares, and pretty much mostly conventional Ground Attack weapons are still at 10.0?

 

Like I get that Germany needs a "good" CAS plane at 9.7 apart from the MiG-23BN, but even the Brits don't even have anything as fancy like Mavericks at 9.7, closest they have is the Buccaneer S.2 with its 4x Bullpups, even the Jaguar GR.1 still only use conventional bombs/rockets and Guided Bombs they only got as early as 10.3 BR with the Jaguar GR.1A. Even if we see this from the perspective of both Ground and Air Battles, the Hunter F.58 eclipse it on either end. 4x SRAAM in the current state of that BR range is practically nothing considering its short range and added the fact that they're both a Subsonic Airframe who has to compete against for the most part are Supersonics at 9.0, Subsonics with countermeasures at 9.7 to 10.7 and BVR missiles at 11.0, and some don't even use Rear Aspect IR Missiles anymore so they're even more screwed.

 

 

Is this peak Britbong Copium? Yes, yes it is but still, at the very least with that many disadvantage the Hunter F.6 and Harrier GR. 1 has compared to the F.58 and the Harrier GR.3, lowering it to 9.7 is the least thing the devs could do for it.

Edited March 7, 2023 by Knightmare49

[DrJorus 24]

Why is the Ariete AMV PT1 featuring only the side panels from the WAR kit?

 

Spoiler

[Conte_Baracca 4,547]

The addition of the Ro.44 is most welcome.  I would have settled for the Ro.43, I really appreciate the effort in giving us the improved Ro.44.  These BR 1.0 TT float planes are really useful in low level battles and it is a nice option for Italy in Naval RB.  I would love to see some more float planes come, especially some of the bombers, but this will serve wonderfully for now.  

 

The RN Duilio is also a most welcome addition.  I cannot wait to unlock it.  

 

The new camouflages for big ships are beautiful and very cool.

 

The addition of the orbit mechanic to scout planes operated from ships in Naval is also a wonderful addition.  I have been hoping for this since drones were given the ability.  It's great to see.

 

 

 

The Pantsir is a terrible addition.  Why is only Russia allowed to have the best of everything?

[Blue_Canadian 12]

I'm loving all of the new features and vehicles in the update already, except for one quam...

 

What reason is the Hunter F.58 in the German tech tree?

 

It's a British jet, with American missiles, modified by the Swiss. I can't find a single part of the aircraft that is German.

 

If the logic is geographical, then there is as much reason to make it a French or Italian vehicle (both countries that don't have a squadron vehicle yet)

 

Even Sweden seems like a more logical choice, being a neutral country, and also a country that actually used Hunters as well.

 

Please reconsider this vehicles placement, as all I have seen from the community is a call for this to change.

[Johnny171 45]

OMG why you can´t add option to toggle play big map in air rb I don´t want them and now I am forced to play them.

[Feradose 1]

4 hours ago, Stona said:

 

• Sa.341F Gazelle — GIAT M.621 ammo capacity has been reduced from 1,000 to 240 rounds.

 

Why, god? Why would you do this? That huge magazine model, to hold 240 rounds? It wasn't even good at its BR compared to hinds... 9.0 helicopter with 1 cannon and 2 atgm gets nerfed? There's no way it was doing any better than other 9.0 helicopters like, there's Mi-24A at 8.7 with 4 atgm, 128 rockets, and a heavy machine gun with 900 rounds... What the hell?

[traiet 2]

Why is the new Hunter in the German TT the only Hunter that got droptanks?

[planeguy121 16]

Not a particularly big fan of the larger maps on Air RB - it makes it a lot harder to track down 1-2 remaining players if they’re avoiding a fight, and it poses real problems for many of the low-fuel fighters like the Drakens and the Kfirs - you barely get enough fuel to turn and burn for a few minutes before needing to limp back to base. I wouldn’t mind the bigger maps if more aircraft got external fuel tanks (e.g. the Kfir bomb rack fuel tanks).

[MJPIA 480]

yeah so I don't see a setting in game to change this in options and these massive notifications pop up each time I take damage, get set on fire or start flooding in naval, each and every time after its repaired and I get damaged again.

It is beyond annoying

Additionally at the start of every match all these pop up, I am not new to naval, I don't need to see this at the start every time

I don't need my hand held letting me know what to do every time I get shot or spawn in a match

[Miku_Fan 35]

Reloading on FlaRakRad is totally broken in this update. You fire first 2 missiles and after that, you're done because you cannot reload.

[LeMemeAesthetic 266]

I like the update overall, but I think the devs should seriously consider adding the Pave Spike pod of the Kurnass 2000 to the American F-4E. Currently no tech tree plane in the US air tree can use laser guided bombs, and this actually leaves top tier US CAS at something of a disadvantage (earlier tiers have stronger CAS relative to their opposition, but TV guided weapons currently just aren't as good as laser guided ones).

[ThePotato27 134]

The change about air rb maps layout at 10.0+ is horrible. The matches are way too long. I loved the shorter matches with quick battle time this is now just air rb with props and side climbing.
I can see this being good for 12.0 jets but that's about it.

[Siggesvag 37]

None of the UK Hunters got the new custom weapon loadout mechanic like the Swiss one. Why?

[Casino_Knight 170]

Hunter F58 now 9.3.

How low can it go?

[Noir89 2,577]

All 3D Decorations are gone (Bushes / shields / Weapons) -- anyone has the same problem?

Edited March 7, 2023 by Noir89

[planeguy121 16]

1 hour ago, LeMemeAesthetic said:

I like the update overall, but I think the devs should seriously consider adding the Pave Spike pod of the Kurnass 2000 to the American F-4E. Currently no tech tree plane in the US air tree can use laser guided bombs, and this actually leaves top tier US CAS at something of a disadvantage (earlier tiers have stronger CAS relative to their opposition, but TV guided weapons currently just aren't as good as laser guided ones).

I agree - honestly, in general I wouldn’t mind seeing a F-4E (Late) foldered  under the current 4E, with a late ‘70s or early ‘80s loadout with LGBs+PAVE SPIKE, 9L/7F, etc.

 

IIRC the current 4E is a weird mashup of different timeframes.

Edited March 7, 2023 by planeguy121

[Favnirbane 182]

Some questions:

 

Why has the Lvkv9040C received a higher research parameter on both the vehicle and its modifications? Forgive me if im wrong, but shouldnt the addition of the VEAK40 to rank VI have saturated the rank, thus making the Lvkv9040C cheaper to research and buy?

 

Is the Terra Nova only supposed to have HE-VT?

 

Also, why is the Hunter F.58 at a BR of 9.3 in RB? By having both flares and AIM9J it is far more potent than the Hunter FGA.9, and more of an equal of the Hunter F.6, which you insist on having at 10.0.

 

At last, are there any comments relating to the buff of the VT-1? Sources for the parameter changes etc.

[Knightmare49 119]

48 minutes ago, Casino_Knight said:

Hunter F58 now 9.3.

How low can it go?

Indeed, it hasn't been a full day since the update arrived and it already got decreased to FGA.9's BR

Edited March 7, 2023 by Knightmare49

[Blue_Canadian 12]

I strongly believe that the Challenger 2E should be after the Vickers Mk.7, since when the British tree was shuffled around a while back, the second line in the tree was designated as the "Export" line, which the Challenger 2E most definitely is.

 

This also gives players who don't want to grind down a whole tree with 5 Challenger 2s a chance to branch out!

[I_Love_Reisen 4]

So are the CV9040s going to be stuck with that god-awful 5 second replenishment time per individual shell or what? 

 

A completely ahistorical change that that benefits nobody... 

 

And to make matters worse, the "German" Hunter is now at 9.3.... because.... reasons?