[Event] Pages of History (June) (Feedback thread)

[Stona_WT 72,761]

In this month's Pages of History you'll find yourself in the center of events that happened at numerous battlefronts. Two of the more important Pacific battles, the landings in Normandy, and the beginning of Operation Barbarossa — participate in battles using the vehicles that were used in these historic events and receive prizes!

 

From June 1st until June 30th you’ll be offered 8 tasks consecutively. Completing each will reward you with a trophy, completing all of them earns you a unique player icon.

 

When Germany invaded the Soviet Union, Nikolai Gastello was already a squadron leader and an experienced pilot with 9 years of flight experience. Two days after the beginning of Operation Barbarossa, on June 24th, 1941, Gastello downed a Luftwaffe plane using just the turret of a DB-3f resting on an airfield.

 

On June 26th the aircraft that Gastello piloted was hit by flak in the fuel tank and caught fire; Gastello flew his flaming bomber into the enemy. He received the Hero of the Soviet Union title, and his valor became an example for other Soviet pilots.

Nikolai Gastello

You can immediately purchase the profile icon for Golden Eagles until July 3rd, 11:30 GMT without completing tasks. Click Nickname → Achievements → Pages of History (June).

Trophy reward for each task

Completion of each individual task will bring you a trophy with one of the following rewards:

• 20-50% RP booster for 3-10 battles;
• 20-50% SL booster for 3-10 battles;
• 3-5 universal backup vehicles;
• 1 day of premium account;
• A random camouflage for ground vehicles (out of the selection of camouflages currently obtainable in game for completing tasks, or purchasing with Golden Eagles).

Other terms

• Tasks are available from 11:00 GMT until 11:30 GMT on the final day of each task.
• Tasks can be completed in random battles, except for “Assault” mode.

June 1st — June 4th
Battle of Midway

The most important sea battle of the Pacific Front in WWII happened in early June of 1942, half a year after the Pearl Harbor attack. The US delivered a crushing defeat to the Imperial Navy of Japan, having sunk all four enemy fleet carriers. After Midway Japan no longer had resources to advance and was forced to defend itself until the end of the war.

June 5th — June 8th
D-day

On June 6th, 1944 the largest landing operation in history took place. Over 24 thousand paratroopers were dropped behind enemy lines to ensure safe landing of another 130 thousand Allies from the sea. By the end of the day five infantry and two airborne divisions landed on the coast of Normandy, opening the second front in Western Europe.

June 9th — June 12th
Battle of Sultan Yacoub

During the Lebanon War the Israeli army tried to push through to the Beirut-Damascus highway but met fierce resistance from the Syrian forces. An Israeli tank battalion was encircled by the enemy who avoided direct combat while using infantry, artillery and aviation to destroy Israeli tanks. Almost all artillery forces of Israel came to rescue; thanks to them, most soldiers were able to escape — but the tank losses were high.

June 12th — June 15th
Battle of Villers-Bocage

A week after landing in Normandy, the British forces advanced to the small town of Villers-Bocage where they unexpectedly encountered parts of the Wehrmacht. Having caught the enemy off guard, the Germans used their Tigers' superiority to destroy tens of British vehicles, having lost only a couple of tanks. However, later on, while pursuing the enemy, they fell into a trap and suffered more losses.

June 15th — June 18th
Operation Battleaxe

On June 15-17, 1941 the British Commonwealth forces attempted to lift the siege of Tobruk and push the Axis from East Cyrenaica. For the first time since the start of WWII a significant German force had to fight on the defensive — but Erwin Rommel planned the defense well. The Allies lost almost 100 tanks and three dozen aircraft and had to retreat.

June 19th — June 22nd
Battle of the Philippine Sea

On June 19th, 1944 Japan went into the Battle of the Philippine Sea with its largest air carrier force. But the inexperienced Japanese pilots were no match against well trained Americans and their state of the art anti-air defenses. Japan lost over 600 aircraft in the battle and almost never used air carriers since: there weren’t enough airplanes left for defense.

June 23rd — June 26th
Battle of Raseiniai

On June 23rd, 1941 parts of the Red Army that were stationed in Lithuania tried to hold off the invading German forces. Due to lack of planning and supplies they failed at their task, and almost all Soviet tanks were destroyed. One of them, however, managed to stall the German advance for almost an entire day: the KV ran out of fuel in the middle of the road but kept sniping the enemy until the end.

June 27th— June 30th
Fire ram

On June 26th, 1941 a downed bomber piloted by Nikolai Gastello performed a flaming ram on a German panzer column. This heroic deed was widely publicized by the Soviet mass media, and pilots who followed in his footsteps were called “gastellovtsi” in his honor. Overall, over a thousand fire rams were performed by Soviet pilots during the war.

[Godvana 533]

Where German pages of history?

Erich Hartmann, highest scoring ace of all time and one of the first jet pilots for the West German Air Force.

Franz Stigler, famous for the event where he escorted a crippled B-17 back to friendly space at risk to his own life.

Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, the Commander of U-96 of which the book Das Boot is based on, served as a captain of distinction after the war.

Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron. It speaks for itself.

Meanwhile we have already had four Soviet pages of history...

 

[KasaneDevAcc 18]

9 minutes ago, Godvana said:

Where German pages of history?

Erich Hartmann, highest scoring ace of all time and one of the first jet pilots for the West German Air Force.

Franz Stigler, famous for the event where he escorted a crippled B-17 back to friendly space at risk to his own life.

Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock, the Commander of U-96 of which the book Das Boot is based on, served as a captain of distinction after the war.

Manfred von Richthofen, the Red Baron. It speaks for itself.

Meanwhile we have already had four Soviet pages of history...

 

We don't plan to add avatars of the Axis countries in these events. There are serious fears of getting much more negative feedback from the general public than these infrequent requests.
There is no desire to figure out who is a Nazi, who is a war criminal, etc. They are all members of an aggressive military block, waged an offensive war and lost it, leaving a purely negative mark on history.

[Bruce_R1 2,118]

44 minutes ago, KasaneDevAcc said:

We don't plan to add avatars of the Axis countries in these events. There are serious fears of getting much more negative feedback from the general public than these infrequent requests.
There is no desire to figure out who is a Nazi, who is a war criminal, etc. They are all members of an aggressive military block, waged an offensive war and lost it, leaving a purely negative mark on history.

Aside from the position taken (which I also happen to agree with), full marks here for being honest with the community in public communications. Even on things that have been said in Q&As and the like that I didn't agree with, I'm loving the increased candour we've been seeing the last couple days from Gaijin about stuff. Kudos for standing up for the game you want to make, sir.

[KasaneDevAcc 18]

9 minutes ago, Godvana said:

Manfred von Richthofen

This is a World War I pilot.
We have no events related to the First World War

[Godvana 533]

9 minutes ago, KasaneDevAcc said:

This is a World War I pilot.
We have no events related to the First World War

 

We also had an infantryman featured but no events relating to infantry...

 

We also have plenty of WW1 era dreadnaughts, so it's not outside the scope of the game.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Godvana

[Охраняет-Камни 6,650]

On 29/05/2023 at 22:33, KasaneDevAcc said:

We don't plan to add avatars of the Axis countries in these events. There are serious fears of getting much more negative feedback from the general public than these infrequent requests.
There is no desire to figure out who is a Nazi, who is a war criminal, etc. They are all members of an aggressive military block, waged an offensive war and lost it, leaving a purely negative mark on history.

What is about pilots who changed sides during the War? Like Italian pilots who served in the Italian Co-belligerent Air Force after the Armistice, for example:

- Vittorio Sanseverino;

- Teresio Vittorio Martinoli;

- Carlo Emanuele Buscaglia.

 

 

[ImperialAdmiral 71]

Jesus christ another Soviet "hero" with some propaganda driven story.

 

Add for once someone like Minoru Genda, Mitsuo Fuchida or Alberto da Zara. 

[Casino_Knight 170]

On 29/05/2023 at 13:33, KasaneDevAcc said:

We don't plan to add avatars of the Axis countries in these events. There are serious fears of getting much more negative feedback from the general public than these infrequent requests.
There is no desire to figure out who is a Nazi, who is a war criminal, etc. They are all members of an aggressive military block, waged an offensive war and lost it, leaving a purely negative mark on history.

Heh...

[Threashold 224]

I'd actually love to see some avatars of the Axis who changed the war for good, Like the nazi pilot of BF109 who didn't shoot down the crippled B-17 and helped it's crew to land safe. 

[Pacifica 15,971]

On 29/05/2023 at 23:39, Godvana said:

 

We also had an infantryman featured but no events relating to infantry...

 

We also have plenty of WW1 era dreadnaughts, so it's not outside the scope of the game.

 

But no WWI planes that served from mid 1930s onward... Ships on the other hand, are well known to have served many decades in service 

 

2 minutes ago, Threashold said:

I'd actually love to see some avatars of the Axis who changed the war for good, Like the nazi pilot of BF109 who didn't shoot down the crippled B-17 and helped it's crew to land safe. 

 

keyword being "nazi"... as it has already been mentioned, it would be bad publicity and some would use such profiles for the wrong reason

[Threashold 224]

4 minutes ago, Pacifica said:

 

But no WWI planes that served from mid 1930s onward... Ships on the other hand, are well known to have served many decades in service 

 

 

keyword being "nazi"... as it has already been mentioned, it would be bad publicity and some would use such profiles for the wrong reason

Wait, Can the game be actually banned in some countries?  if discovered mentioning/ using pictures and keywords of Nazi? 

Edited May 31, 2023 by Threashold

[Pacifica 15,971]

5 minutes ago, Threashold said:

Wait, Can the game be actually banned in some countries?  if discovered mentioning/ using pictures and keywords of Nazi? 

 

Thats why we have this rule and or for the ToS / EULA etc

 

Strictly off Limit Topics and Discussions, including posting links:

1.1.18. A) In accordance with the laws of Countries hosting Gaijin servers or offices, discussion of any logos, symbols, emblems, organisations or figures connected in any way with any groups that have been convicted of existing International laws and/or rules (including variations of Nazi symbolism, abbreviations and signs (SS and 1488), as well as credentials, names and surnames of Nazi leaders/War Criminals). B) Also, those which may promote national/ethnic/religious hatred.

 

 

But, anyway... Back on Topic!

[Godvana 533]

18 minutes ago, Pacifica said:

 

But no WWI planes that served from mid 1930s onward... Ships on the other hand, are well known to have served many decades in service 

 

 

None of the Dreadnaughts in the German tree served beyond WW1... Beside, pages of history aren't about the machines themselves, it's about the people behind them.

Edited May 31, 2023 by Godvana

[Pacifica 15,971]

3 minutes ago, Godvana said:

 

Beside, pages of history aren't about the machines themselves, it's about the people behind them.

 

Thats the whole point... "participate in battles using the vehicles that were used in these historic events and receive prizes"

 

 

[Godvana 533]

7 minutes ago, Pacifica said:

 

Thats the whole point... "participate in battles using the vehicles that were used in these historic events and receive prizes"

 

 

So then do a pages of history for a German WW1 naval captain, like, idk, Karl von Müller? You are speaking as if Gaijin are not the ones making up the rules. And considering that Comrade Nikola participated in an aggressive bombing campaign against the Finns, that whole 'aggressor' argument holds no water.

[Exocetta 14]

When and how are the vehicle lists determined? I would be nice if we could know them before the get added in game.  Some of us don't have everything bought and spaded, so knowing ahead of time what's coming would help key on where to grind towards.

And could there be more diversity in which are picked?  For the past few months it seems the same vehicles are listed even when some of them aren't really appropriate for the event/operation/time period.  

Thanks, the History Pages are a great way of tying in the game to the history being portrayed. 

[Exocetta 14]

Oh and noticed for the "Battle of Raseiniai", The famous last stand of the KV-2 at a crossroads is misspelled "KB" and the vehicle  the KV-2 (1939) isn't listed as one of the vehicles.

[DerLachendeMann 506]

Could you make the battles correspond to the period of the profile picture? The Battle of Sultan Yacoub seems a bit out of place to me here.

[Bruce_R1 2,118]

3 hours ago, DerLachendeMann said:

Could you make the battles correspond to the period of the profile picture? The Battle of Sultan Yacoub seems a bit out of place to me here.

Then they'd do a modern one (like Schwarzkopf) and half the players wouldn't be able to participate for a month because it would all be high tier. Anniversaries of famous battles in this specific month is sort of the point of this whole thing.

[DerLachendeMann 506]

1 hour ago, Bruce_R1 said:

Then they'd do a modern one (like Schwarzkopf) and half the players wouldn't be able to participate for a month because it would all be high tier. Anniversaries of famous battles in this specific month is sort of the point of this whole thing.

I think they always sneak in a modern battle to incite at least some players to accelerate their research or just buy that one step... (also on a purely personal note I prefer tasks that I can do in naval, so anything really that got at least a plane up to 7.0 in the task, just faster to do this way imo ;))

[Uncle J Wick@live 407]

On 29/05/2023 at 14:33, KasaneDevAcc said:

There is no desire to figure out who is a Nazi, who is a war criminal, etc. They are all members of an aggressive military block, waged an offensive war and lost it, leaving a purely negative mark on history.

 

I mean i understand this from a Russian perspective in a Russian video game, but if i would be a Polish or a Finnish guy i would claim that the same standards should apply for everyone - as the USSR was attacking both countries in 1939 without being provoked too. 

History writing is biased by definition and therefore imho not really suited to be supportive for any claims regarding remarks in history. Same as with war criminals as neither the US nor the RF accept the ICC as responsible for them... 

 

On 31/05/2023 at 12:50, Pacifica said:

On 31/05/2023 at 12:42, Threashold said:

I'd actually love to see some avatars of the Axis who changed the war for good, Like the nazi pilot of BF109 who didn't shoot down the crippled B-17 and helped it's crew to land safe. 

 

keyword being "nazi"... as it has already been mentioned, it would be bad publicity and some would use such profiles for the wrong reaso

 

I agree with the potential "bad publicity" but the issue is imho more related to uneducated people like in this case describing Luftwaffe officers as "nazis". I mean having internet means not to have access to all information - we had something called books. In some of them you find clear statements that officers were not allowed to be member of political parties. But you find those books in small shops only and not in a digital version....

 

Everything you find online is biased to a large degree, so if you see other claims that 30% of German officers (not SS) were party members you just have to check the political agenda of these "historians" - especially the German ones are far left as they clearly mix their opinions and reality to support their pov - so just by selecting your sources they get the results they wanted. I see UK historians still as mostly unbiased, but they are the exceptions from the rule. 

 

I mean from a very holistic perspective all Germans were nazis just by living in or under a totalitarian regime.

But this does not imply that they shared or supported the ideology of nazism.

 

But the majority of people is not able to think abstract and tend to oversimplify very complex topics as is much easier to follow certain opinions instead of having an own one. 

 

Edit: I am wondering about confusion, i am happy to clarify if i know what exactly is confusing so i added a sentence that might be suited to address my point more precisely.

  

Edited June 2, 2023 by Uncle J Wick@live

[Thodin 6,784]

These pages of history events are so one-sided. Why is there never an axis avatar to unlock? 

 

I also play alot other wargames, they don't have these one-sided phenomenon. I just remember Steel Division, where you could play original divisions with portait images of the commanding officers, you could even spawn Wittman's Tiger E with his portrait atteached.... And here? Total silence....

 

 

[Pacifica 15,971]

17 minutes ago, Uncle J Wick@live said:

 

I mean i understand this from a Russian perspective in a Russian video game, but if i would be a Polish or a Finnish guy i would claim that the same standards should apply for everyone - as the USSR was attacking both countries in 1939 without being provoked too. 

History writing is biased by definition and therefore imho not really suited to be supportive for any claims regarding remarks in history. Same as with war criminals as neither the US nor the RF accept the ICC as responsible for them... 

 

 

I agree with the potential "bad publicity" but the issue is imho more related to uneducated people like in this case describing Luftwaffe officers as "nazis". I mean having internet means not to have access to all information - we had something called books. In some of them you find clear statements that officers were not allowed to be member of political parties. But you find those books in small shops only and not in a digital version....

 

Everything you find online is biased to a large degree, so if you see other claims that 30% of German officers (not SS) were party members you just have to check the political agenda of these "historians" - especially the German ones are far left as they clearly mix their opinions and reality to support their pov - so just by selecting your sources they get the results they wanted. I see UK historians still as mostly unbiased, but they are the exceptions from the rule. 

 

I mean from a very holistic perspective all Germans were nazis just by living in or under a totalitarian regime. But the majority of people is not able to think abstract and tend to oversimplify very complex topics as is much easier to follow certain opinions instead of having an own one. 

  

 

Than you need to take that up with the Law Makers in other countries and change their minds, since it has nothing to do with us... Devs would have worked on some Axis profiles at least, but hands are tied by the Law.... so, go and change their minds!

 

Strictly off Limit Topics and Discussions, including posting links:

1.1.18. A) In accordance with the laws of Countries hosting Gaijin servers or offices, discussion of any logos, symbols, emblems, organisations or figures connected in any way with any groups that have been convicted of existing International laws and/or rules (including variations of Nazi symbolism, abbreviations and signs (SS and 1488), as well as credentials, names and surnames of Nazi leaders/War Criminals). B) Also, those which may promote national/ethnic/religious hatred.

[Uncle J Wick@live 407]

26 minutes ago, Pacifica said:

Than you need to take that up with the Law Makers in other countries and change their minds, since it has nothing to do with us... Devs would have worked on some Axis profiles at least, but hands are tied by the Law.... so, go and change their minds!

 

It is more likely to transfer a vegan into a steak enthusiast - or to convince your wife that some issues can be done another day....

 

I mean Hartmann has a clean record - he was neither a nazi nor a war criminal, all charges - including the deliberate destruction of 345 "expensive" Russian aircraft - were dropped decades after the war. The Germans still have the highest scoring jet aces ever existed and besides Welter they look clean too... 

 

So imho you simply miss business opportunities by excluding the German fanbase from your pages of history events, but it is your game...