Tanks/Vehicles Panzer IV 88mm Flak 18/36

[Heinkel280 641]

I have pictures of the Panzer IV chassis mounting the Flak 41's

[NutellaArmor 240]

I have pictures of the Panzer IV chassis mounting the Flak 41's

Awesome. Thanks for the pics! :salute:

 

It does look like a toaster, haha!

[MandolinMagi 603]

lol yes plz this would be great T4/5 Flak for germany

Yeah, right up until you try hitting an airplane with a slow-traversing gun with a a 5-second reload.

[SiCaRiO31 213]

you dont have to hit it, just let the shell explote near him and spray it with shrapnel :P

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

Yeah, right up until you try hitting an airplane with a slow-traversing gun with a a 5-second reload.

 

Alternatively you could troll the ZSU-57-2 drivers with it.

[Tantor57 10,318]

would love to see it as a TD tiered like at 4.3 or 4.7 :D

 

Would be so deadly

[evil_wolf 760]

Yeah, right up until you try hitting an airplane with a slow-traversing gun with a a 5-second reload.

actually, these Anti Aircraft guns had a good traverse speed (on par with most AA guns IG) and a trained artillery crew could put a shell every 2-3s

[Tantor57 10,318]

and shells could be set to explode in the air... Imagine a 88 mm shells exploding 5 meters near your plane... Youre pretty much dead and your plane too.

[NutellaArmor 240]

and shells could be set to explode in the air... Imagine a 88 mm shells exploding 5 meters near your plane... Youre pretty much dead and your plane too.

That would be sweet. Actual flak!

[_Hydr4_ 715]

GAIJIN! We want, nay, we NEED this!

[IsaakRiv94 5,260]

+1 looks good , but there are many other widely used german tank destroyers that are not ingame, like the Nashorn, Panzerjäger I and those should be added first.

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

would love to see it as a TD tiered like at 4.3 or 4.7 :D

 

Would be so deadly

 

Actually it'd be on the SPAA tree.  It just happens to have a big enough gun to double as a TD if necessary.

[Berserkerererer 33]

We must have Glass-cannon vehicle line - Marders, Hornisse, Sturer emil, Dicker max, and this. BUT PLEASE, NOT WAFFENTRAGER E-100!!!111

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

We must have Glass-cannon vehicle line - Marders, Hornisse, Sturer emil, Dicker max, and this. BUT PLEASE, NOT WAFFENTRAGER E-100!!!111

 

The WT E-100 is not only completely fictional but is in fact trademarked by WG.  There is literally no possibility of it ever being in the game unless somebody REALLY wants to start a legal ****storm, so don't worry about it.

[NutellaArmor 240]

The WT E-100 is not only completely fictional but is in fact trademarked by WG.  There is literally no possibility of it ever being in the game unless somebody REALLY wants to start a legal ****storm, so don't worry about it.

It's trademarked? What the hell! Guess it's the same thing with the candy crush saga crap.

[Cyrant 1,585]

I do really hope the SPAAG's Damage model gets repaired before more and more powerful AA is added.

 

Currently they bounce and eat shells in a ridiculous manner, it's nearly no risk to go with AA against light/medium tanks as their hits often just won't do damage while you can hose them and disable or kill stuff easily. Only heavy tanks are moderately safe from SPAA spam (except for external modules) - this feels strange.

I hope WT doesn't become Rambo SPAA tournament, yet if the DM gets more reasonable I'm all for adding more vehicles with interesting setups.

[NutellaArmor 240]

I do really hope the SPAAG's Damage model gets repaired before more and more powerful AA is added.

 

Currently they bounce and eat shells in a ridiculous manner, it's nearly no risk to go with AA against light/medium tanks as their hits often just won't do damage while you can hose them and disable or kill stuff easily. Only heavy tanks are moderately safe from SPAA spam (except for external modules) - this feels strange.

I hope WT doesn't become Rambo SPAA tournament, yet if the DM gets more reasonable I'm all for adding more vehicles with interesting setups.

The struggle is real. I once got pened frontally or from the turret side by a ZSU-37 while I was in my Panther D. It was insane, here is a medium tank (considered a heavy by the Allies) and I get rekt by a SPAA. This ain't right.

 

SPAAs with 37mm and 20mm guns shouldn't be tank hunters. The Panzer 88mm would be alright though since it's dual purpose.

[Einheit_101 202]

I need this as a BR 4.3 TD *___*
German Tier 3 Zis-30 :D

[CroVepar 4,514]

Could be nice if they made the side armor able to get lowered/removed, so you could choose to at least protect your crew from MGs for the expense of an all-round gun rotation.

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

It's trademarked? What the hell! Guess it's the same thing with the candy crush saga crap.

 

It's trademarked because THEY designed it.

[T3MPEST 2,728]

The WT E-100 is not only completely fictional but is in fact trademarked by WG.  There is literally no possibility of it ever being in the game unless somebody REALLY wants to start a legal ****storm, so don't worry about it.

It's trademarked because THEY designed it.

 

 the trademark/patent was on the E-50 Ausf.M (which didn't exist)

 

http://english.gosu-wot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/patent.tank_.e-50m.0.jpg

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/19/wargaming-patents-e-50m/

 

so in other words the E-100 is still possible and quit spreading around bull floral.

 

the E-100 in WoT is derived from the sketches of others Whom have copy-writes on the designs that prevent them (WG) from patenting.

Edited April 14, 2015 by T3MPEST

[Renamed99495 3,247]

Put existing things together, patent it. They got that advice from apple ?

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

 the trademark/patent was on the E-50 Ausf.M (which didn't exist)

 

http://english.gosu-wot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/patent.tank_.e-50m.0.jpg

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/19/wargaming-patents-e-50m/

 

so in other words the E-100 is still possible and quit spreading around bull floral.

 

the E-100 in WoT is derived from the sketches of others Whom have copy-writes on the designs that prevent them (WG) from patenting.

 

I'm talking about the WAFFENTRAEGER E-100, which IS their own design (and one that would've in fact been impossible by their own admission because the gun mounting was way too big irl).  Next time, READ my post before you jump the gun and make yourself look bad, got it?

 

Back on the topic of this thread, what BR should this thing have?  Sure it's a flak vehicle with a massive gun, but said gun probably won't be very useful as an AA gun in-game due to the low rate of fire (unless we can set the range at which the shells burst, otherwise a direct hit would be required), so chances are it would be used more frequently as a tank destroyer.  All of that has to be taken into account when deciding what kind of opposition it should face.

Edited April 14, 2015 by Z3r0_

[TimTimONE 315]

There it is. THE TOASTER. Yes plox.

[Einheit_101 202]

There it is. THE TOASTER. Yes plox.

I prefer "Flakbus" haha :D Edited April 14, 2015 by Einheit_101