12.8cm Selbstfahrlafette L/61 (Panzerselbstfahrlafette V) [Sturer Emil]

[JackTheRipoff 68]

Yes after the IV/70!

[JacobIsHusky 334]

Yes after the IV/70!

It would be a better fit after the Hetzer, seeing as it's an open top tank destroyer like the Marders are.  It also has relatively light armor compared to other German tank destroyers, which is a trait also shared with the Marders.  So to me, the glass cannon TD line makes more sense.

[Naam54673 1,537]

Yes after the IV/70A!

FTFY

[JackTheRipoff 68]

It would be a better fit after the Hetzer, seeing as it's an open top tank destroyer like the Marders are.  It also has relatively light armor compared to other German tank destroyers, which is a trait also shared with the Marders.  So to me, the glass cannon TD line makes more sense.

Good point, I'd put this at a 6.0-6.3 BR. Because its speed and Armour are a huge issue. That gun would club a bit tho.

[_Sync 1,028]

Gun depression is -15

 

 

*heavy breathing*

[RohmMohc 11,494]

It would be a better fit after the Hetzer, seeing as it's an open top tank destroyer like the Marders are.  It also has relatively light armor compared to other German tank destroyers, which is a trait also shared with the Marders.  So to me, the glass cannon TD line makes more sense.

nope.. imho we need an Open TD Branch for the germans... started by the Panzerjäger I -> Marders -> Nashorn -> Max -> Emil (all with the late war ammo of the KT 105 and the JT since post war ammo on so many other tnaks) -> GESCHÜTZWAGEN TIGER

[JacobIsHusky 334]

nope.. imho we need an Open TD Branch for the germans... started by the Panzerjäger I -> Marders -> Nashorn -> Max -> Emil (all with the late war ammo of the KT 105 and the JT since post war ammo on so many other tnaks) -> GESCHÜTZWAGEN TIGER

That would work just as well.  The Hetzer and the 35 and 38(t)s can be moved(any ideas where they could be relocated to?)  and the Panzerjager I would be a nice fit into tier I.  Are you sure the Dicker Max should be after the Nashorn?  I thought the PaK 43 was more powerful than the 10.5 cm sK 18.  Edit:  I know you made the line based on ascending caliber size, but we both know that larger caliber size doesn't always equal more power.

Edited October 2, 2015 by JacobIsHusky

[RohmMohc 11,494]

if we give it the Pzgr 39 of the KWK 46 Tiger II (with correct penetration) then ig uess it could be stronger

[JacobIsHusky 334]

It's possible, but it may have to have a reduced propellant charge because I don't think the sK 18 would be capable of handling the same psi as the KWK 46.

 

Edit: spelling error that bothered me.

Edited October 2, 2015 by JacobIsHusky

[igeticsu 3,400]

would be fun to have this :) even though its pretty darn ugly

[Bombastikus 14,039]

I don't know...only two units build......do we REALLY need this?

 

I mean yeah..we have the Maus (bad enough) but only because it is kinda needed to give germans something to use in T5.

 

Frankly I can see no use for this vehicle. IT would only be good as long range sniper (amazing gun, amazing gun depression, weak hull) on huge maps.....which aren't in the game anymore.

[RohmMohc 11,494]

Don't forget the SU-100Y... and if we get an open top td branch... it cannot just end with the Nashorn

[Naam54673 1,537]

Don't forget the SU-100Y... and if we get an open top td branch... it cannot just end with the Nashorn

If

[Doktor_Junkers 8,441]

If

 

Thing is, the huns pretty much took anything with tracks they found and slapped some AT thing on it. Hell, even the bren carrier was given three Schrecks.

Edited October 3, 2015 by Doktor_Junkers

[RohmMohc 11,494]

Thing is, the huns pretty much took anything with tracks they found and slapped some AT thing on it. Hell, even the bren carrier was given three Schrecks.

i just had to imagine how design of support vehicles worked then... "this is blablabla" first question: "Can it carry AT-Weapons? No? Back to the drawing board!" btw they also took some things with wheels^^ Pakwagen Sdfkz 234/4

Edited October 3, 2015 by RohmMohc

[K1NGM4S1V_4th_GUARDS_DIV 119]

Please add Emil,  This vehicle deserves to be honored as well in the game.

[AlFateh 107]

GIB NAO

+128x61

[Gaston_Glow 111]

+1 . i love german td´s

[ustinodj 5,952]

I would not mund them putting it in the main tree honestly

[_ItZzWar_ 3,910]

Ugly tank with powerful gun but low end 40mm armor. You could easily kill it with a Tier 1 37mm gun so you need a high distance to.

Bad idea to use it on small city maps. Imagine all the crying players who payed lots of SL or GE for it and get killed after seconds by a Tier III AA tank.

 

I love my well armored Jagdtiger and I would never prefer this "Selbstfahrlafette L/61". I think it was only built twice, because it was too bad for series production.

[_PabloSniper_ 2,142]

bump

[igeticsu 3,400]

bump

http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/297552-important-changes-to-posting-rules/

Bumping is against the rules.

 

But yeah, I still support this :)

[AtomicPope 3,953]

It was used operationally, so yes, +1 from me. Tier III seems a good spot for it. I wan

 

t to use that thing in the Kursk map, seems a perfect place for it.

[Vlad_The_Impala 338]

Hey what happened to this thing?  

 

GIMME!!!!

[S0NIC_B00M 35]

No doubt this will be added as a tier 4 now that we have the additions of the Nashorn and Dicker Max at tier 3. Now there is a question of what will fill that empty tier 5 slot..  :dntknw: