Hungarian Tank Tree - Updated

[WayOfTheWolk 1,573]

I would recommend the addition of the PSZH APC with the 14.5mm turret. You can't have a truly Hungarian tree without it.

[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

29 minutes ago, Private_Wolk said:

I would recommend the addition of the PSZH APC with the 14.5mm turret. You can't have a truly Hungarian tree without it.

Yes yes it was already in our minds we forgot to add it to the Pic 

[Miltaccfd 240]

40 minutes ago, Private_Wolk said:

I would recommend the addition of the PSZH APC with the 14.5mm turret. You can't have a truly Hungarian tree without it.

Personally I cant agree, its a vehicle with a 14,5 mm main armament, it cant elevate it more than 30°, so it cant be a TD and cant be an AA... Or, it can be go to ~1.7, but, really? Okay, it is a determinative hungarian vehicle, but its an APC from the 60s! Its a no from me.

[Miltaccfd 240]

The only possible Hungarian APC that could be ingame actually wasnt in service in Hungary. Its the czechoslovakian OT-65A FUG armed with a T21 Tarasnice recoilless rilfe. But that one needs to be added to Czechoslovakia, or to Hungary but only as a premium.

[Lord_KROK 193]

Where is the airplanes? 

[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

7 hours ago, Lord_KROK said:

Where is the airplanes? 

Soon will come, we need to make 4/5 suggestions firstly 

8 hours ago, Miltaccfd said:

The only possible Hungarian APC that could be ingame actually wasnt in service in Hungary. Its the czechoslovakian OT-65A FUG armed with a T21 Tarasnice recoilless rilfe. But that one needs to be added to Czechoslovakia, or to Hungary but only as a premium.

Nice point mate, I've done a fast research there could be a 20mm prototype variant of this baby developed by Hungary and also a full service one with a turret like, nonetheless this could be a nice premium. We'll dig up some more about this baby and let you know 

[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

9 hours ago, Miltaccfd said:

Personally I cant agree, its a vehicle with a 14,5 mm main armament, it cant elevate it more than 30°, so it cant be a TD and cant be an AA... Or, it can be go to ~1.7, but, really? Okay, it is a determinative hungarian vehicle, but its an APC from the 60s! Its a no from me.

We also have an AMX sitting at 3.3 that faces ww2 vehicles but it's a 50's vehicle and an R3 in the Italian tree that is a 60's vehicle. We are might put it as an armored car and because we found out a new 20mm variant we might add that to the AAA tree, also the BTR 80 is equipped with a 30mm gun

[DarthGergely 464]

On 13/10/2019 at 22:00, leCoucouDodu said:

The main problem of hungary is top tier.

I don't think they conceived mbt. Am I right ?

Hungary had bought from Germany  44 Leopard 2 main battle tank what have the highest br  in the current game , i think its enough so far.

 

On 13/10/2019 at 23:01, Solarmod said:

Yeah, but I'd like to see romania in it too.

 

On 13/10/2019 at 22:15, Private_Wolk said:

would rather be in favor of a Minor Axis Tech Tree or even the mixed Italian idea than a pure Hungarian tree, there is much more potential to grow than with such a limited line up. I respect your effort nonetheless.

 

On 14/10/2019 at 00:23, eleks12 said:

Would love to see Hungarian tanks ingame. However its gonna be really hard to make lineups ingame without adding alot of copy paste machines into the game.

So i would prefer a Eastern Europe international tree instead!

If we watch the tech trees from the players side , the tree need to be more unique with less copy paste vehicle , those mixture tech like the minor-axis-allies , eastern Europe etc tech would be the best solution. But the current state of the game permit this type of separate techs , for the company is more profitable and easier to make something like this with a few unique and more existing vehicle just for a example : Imagine a just Hungarian tech with 7 premium vehicle , from that we have 2-3 premium pack stuff for 20-30-40 euro , they could make a Yugoslavian,Romanian or any other nation from the eastern block and can sell those packs again,but if we put the together , mix them they could sell those packs just one more time , economical its better to make more nations.

(I dont say its bad or good , i just mentioned)

On 14/10/2019 at 13:00, Jacky95 said:

was thinking about the tier 1 krupp AA truck.

That has a AA mount with a Solothurn LMG, which was used on trains too..however this gun uses 20 and 30 round magazines

Truly , that AA could have that Schwarzlose without any problem , it was used so why not? Thanks for your idea.

[DarthGergely 464]

16 hours ago, Private_Wolk said:

I would recommend the addition of the PSZH APC with the 14.5mm turret. You can't have a truly Hungarian tree without it.

How Miltaa said that vehicle haven't got such a good elevation ability what decreases the efficiency but its in the "Other Opportunities " as more vehicle , but thanks for your idea  

[FelvidekiMagyar 26]

Yes!!!

And i think we bought 44Leopard2A7+

Not the normal A7

[FelvidekiMagyar 26]

And about the low rank AA guns i think The botond with 8mm would be good but that Opel Blitz is better and somebody mentioned a Botond with a 20mm. That would be good

[Solarmod 1,203]

7 hours ago, CsomorMark24HUN said:

And about the low rank AA guns i think The botond with 8mm would be good but that Opel Blitz is better and somebody mentioned a Botond with a 20mm. That would be good

Wouldn't the blitz also get a German addition?

[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

38 minutes ago, Solarmod said:

Wouldn't the blitz also get a German addition?

Yes theoretically working on machines like the blitz would let the devs recycle the model to another tech tree

[DarthGergely 464]

Some skin/decal ideas :

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[PacketlossRedux 595]

Hungarian tanks also had german camo sometimes. There is an image of a turán 1 with 2 tone german camo with vertical stripes....

 

Edited October 18, 2019 by Jacky95

[DarthGergely 464]

I tried to color those pics with some picture auto coloring apps , here are the results

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[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

1 hour ago, DarthGergely said:

I tried to color those pics with some picture auto coloring apps , here are the results

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Second photo second tank, you can see the vertical stripes, nice

[WiseMinerva 454]

+1

[PacketlossRedux 595]

Funnly enough, Hungary did have ships that operated both on the sea and on the Danube. These were the Danube-Sea ships. They were supply ships first and foremost. a few were armed by german 20mm flak cannons and MS Szeged had a single 40mm Nimrod tower.

Fun fact: the soviets were hellbent on sinking these ships with submarines but thanks to the fact that these ships were all shallow-draught compared to other cruise ships of their size because they also needed to sail in the shallow-waters of the Danube. The Hungarian ships' draught was around 3 meter while other ships had 4-4,5 meter and the Soviet submarines fired all their torpedoes at 4 meter - they were not aware of the Hungarian ships' shallow-draught.

https://live.warthunder.com/post/541804/en/

 

Ha! you all cant say we did not have sea worth ships

 

Edited October 20, 2019 by Jacky95

[DarthGergely 464]

Hungarian tank decals (added to the post too) 

[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

19 minutes ago, Jacky95 said:

Funnly enough, Hungary did have ships that operated both on the sea and on the Danube. These were the Danube-Sea ships. They were supply ships first and foremost. a few were armed by german 20mm flak cannons and MS Szeged had a single 40mm Nimrod tower.

Fun fact: the soviets were hellbent on sinking these ships with submarines but thanks to the fact that these ships were all shallow-draught compared to other cruise ships of their size because they also needed to sail in the shallow-waters of the Danube. The Hungarian ships' draught was around 3 meter while other ships had 4-4,5 meter and the Soviet submarines fired all their torpedoes at 4 meter - they were not aware of the Hungarian ships' shallow-draught.

https://live.warthunder.com/post/541804/en/

 

Ha! you all cant say we did not have sea worth ships

 

emh...hungarian Naval tech tree will come soon too

[DarthGergely 464]

The full list of the Hungarian used vehicles (now just in HU but later i will translate it):

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Darabszám , DB , Darab mean - Quantity 

Source: (you can download it in PDF format)

https://b-ok.cc/book/754188/f65596

 

[PacketlossRedux 595]

the maltese cross insignias and the Turul one are definitelly my favorite ones

[MadMax_ITA_ 789]

1 hour ago, DarthGergely said:

The full list of the Hungarian used vehicles (now just in HU but later i will translate it):

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Darabszám , DB , Darab mean - Quantity 

Source: (you can download it in PDF format)

https://b-ok.cc/book/754188/f65596

 

in the first photo there are numbers for hungarian vehicles but not a direct list but there are photos for each and every vehicle in the main post

[DarthGergely 464]

The translated list: 

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Edited October 21, 2019 by DarthGergely