techtree Argentine Air Forces Tech tree

[AspandaIV 375]

4 minutes ago, cfracas said:

Every new suggestion for a new nation is always welcomed and is worth consideration.

 

Few notes about G55A and G59:

G55A never had engine cannon, although installation was obviously possible.

G55A delivered to Egypt and Syria were armed with 4*12.7mm Breda MGs. I assume these would have been the possible armament for planes delivered to Argentina.

G59 with 4 weapons in wings were all Bredas, they were used in Syria.

I heard there is a mock-up photo of a G59 with 4 cannons, but they were not real cannons (they were meant to be Hispano, but were never installed).

One question, is it possible for the G.55B to equip guns and/or cannons?
 

[Chose_your_name1 6]

Check this out for the g59.  

 

[OsO73 491]

7 hours ago, cfracas said:

G55A never had engine cannon, although installation was obviously possible.

MG151 were only imported from Germany so after the war these weapons were not available in Italy.

G55A delivered to Egypt and Syria were armed with 4*12.7mm Breda MGs. I assume these would have been the possible armament for planes delivered to Argentina.

ive seen some reports of argentine army/airforce having Mg-151s in storage (you can see that they will later re used them in the navy Alouette III)

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7 hours ago, cfracas said:

G59 with 4 weapons in wings were all Bredas, they were used in Syria.

I heard there is a mock-up photo of a G59 with 4 cannons, but they were not real cannons (they were meant to be Hispano, but were never installed).

And in the case of the only G59 in argentina it could have been fitted with hispanos since argentina licensed built them, but little information is available about that plane

 

[AspandaIV 375]

Here's another plane that can be added to the TT, the S-2T "Turbo Tracker", essentially they are S-2's that have being upgraded to meet with modern specifications, one of the modifications is the Piston engines being replaced by Turbo-props resulting in a payload increase of 500kg's

[OsO73 491]

12 hours ago, AspandaIV said:

Here's another plane that can be added to the TT, the S-2T "Turbo Tracker", essentially they are S-2's that have being upgraded to meet with modern specifications, one of the modifications is the Piston engines being replaced by Turbo-props resulting in a payload increase of 500kg's

That could be a nice addition to the tree, Thanks !!

[mpata10 92]

Big +1.

I worked a lot toward this in the itt, an although i think a latin america tree would be better, i would love to see argentina in war thunder 

Also if you want to take any info of my data sheet you can. 

[OsO73 491]

11 hours ago, mpata10 said:

Big +1.

I worked a lot toward this in the itt, an although i think a latin america tree would be better, i would love to see argentina in war thunder 

Also if you want to take any info of my data sheet you can. 

Thanks, i will link the data sheets to the planes !  

[Borotovas 4,500]

+1

[OsO73 491]

13 hours ago, Borotovas said:

+1

Thanks for the support ! 

[OsO73 491]

Update!

We receive some new aircraft to the TT.

Starting with the NA-16 for the lower tiers 

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The T-28P (unique argentine modification)

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The I.Ae.30 Ñancu

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The Mirage IIIC

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and lastly the Mirage Vp & VP mara

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The TT was re arranged and given a better image.

[AspandaIV 375]

I looked up one of the sources you linked to and I found a Image of a SP-2H with a twin 50.cal turret dorsal turret

[OsO73 491]

2 minutes ago, AspandaIV said:

I looked up one of the sources you linked to and I found a Image of a SP-2H with a twin 50.cal turret dorsal turret

yup, i do have plans to add the 3 variants that saw service in argentina. The P-2V, SP-2H and P2E with some other aircraft that could be interesting to see

[OsO73 491]

Update: 

We see the addition of the 3 variants of the Neptunes PV2-5, SP-2E and SP-2H, all of this aircraft saw service in the argentine navy and they will have a place in the tree at 4.7

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[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

I think I'm a bit in deep shock to decide on an answer

 

I mean out of all the possible nations, Argentina might have enough aircraft for its own tree and without much copy paste or am I going crazy?

 

I don't know

 

[OsO73 491]

48 minutes ago, EpicBlitzkrieg87 said:

I think I'm a bit in deep shock to decide on an answer

 

I mean out of all the possible nations, Argentina might have enough aircraft for its own tree and without much copy paste or am I going crazy?

 

I don't know

 

 

Well from a total of 60 aircraft, 55 are from the regular TT we have around 16 Copies (i excluded the F4U-5s, the F9F-8T, and the mirages modified by argentina since those are not in game)

even though the tree will see a few more additons in the future, it currently is very complete compared to sweden and even having comparable numbers with france, so yeah its all coming together

[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

1 hour ago, OsO73 said:

Well from a total of 60 aircraft, 55 are from the regular TT we have around 16 Copies (i excluded the F4U-5s, the F9F-8T, and the mirages modified by argentina since those are not in game)

even though the tree will see a few more additons in the future, it currently is very complete compared to sweden and even having comparable numbers with france, so yeah its all coming together

 

I'm still shell shocked.. it's Argentina 

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

2 hours ago, OsO73 said:

Well from a total of 60 aircraft, 55 are from the regular TT we have around 16 Copies (i excluded the F4U-5s, the F9F-8T, and the mirages modified by argentina since those are not in game)

even though the tree will see a few more additons in the future, it currently is very complete compared to sweden and even having comparable numbers with france, so yeah its all coming together

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's (proportionally) less copy+paste than what was on the French tree on release.

Edited April 7, 2020 by Z3r0_

[PlanyKaanere 722]

1 hour ago, Z3r0_ said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's (proportionally) less copy+paste than what was on the French tree on release.

 

The French air tree had 7 out of 32 copy-paste aircraft on release (counting the AD-4 that was added to the US later), while this one has 16/55. In percentages that's 22% vs 29%. And, of course, Gaijin won't add all aircraft at once if Argentina gets into the game, so comparations with release trees are kinda pointless.

 

Still, I'd love to see this tree ingame. Argentina is one of the few standalone nations left that can support an air tree with unique designs and modifications at all tiers.

[OsO73 491]

2 hours ago, Z3r0_ said:

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's (proportionally) less copy+paste than what was on the French tree on release.

the french on release had 34 vehicles, 8 of them were US made aircraft, including 6 exact copypasted vehicles thats roughly a 17% being copies

this tree (even if its added i dont expect gaijin to add the all aircraft at once) has a total 26% being copies (i counted the premiums too)

its not much but at least its not china

 

Also i added more possible/future additions to the TT

Edited April 7, 2020 by OsO73

[OsO73 491]

32 minutes ago, PlanyKaanere said:

 

The French air tree had 7 out of 32 copy-paste aircraft on release (counting the AD-4 that was added to the US later), while this one has 16/55. In percentages that's 22% vs 29%. And, of course, Gaijin won't add all aircraft at once if Argentina gets into the game, so comparations with release trees are kinda pointless.

 

Still, I'd love to see this tree ingame. Argentina is one of the few standalone nations left that can support an air tree with unique designs and modifications at all tiers.

you got it first haha, i do think the same, since france and argentina (even though they share a few aircraft, like the mirages and the super etendart) cant really be compared by the amount of copies, for example, the H-75s that both countries used have different armament (7.5mm for the french and 11mm + 7.65mm Mgs for the argentine one) engines and landing gear

 

I know that this copied vehicles are a big deal for some people) but in both cases the number its really small 

Edited April 7, 2020 by OsO73

[OsO73 491]

3 hours ago, EpicBlitzkrieg87 said:

 

I'm still shell shocked.. it's Argentina 

me too, at the start i had little hope for the TT since i had 32 vehicles and around 12 of them were copies, now its a complete different thing

[Z3r0_ 4,128]

1 hour ago, PlanyKaanere said:

 

The French air tree had 7 out of 32 copy-paste aircraft on release (counting the AD-4 that was added to the US later), while this one has 16/55. In percentages that's 22% vs 29%. And, of course, Gaijin won't add all aircraft at once if Argentina gets into the game, so comparations with release trees are kinda pointless.

 

Still, I'd love to see this tree ingame. Argentina is one of the few standalone nations left that can support an air tree with unique designs and modifications at all tiers.

 

Well...still less copy+paste than China.

[OsO73 491]

Update !

We see the addition of 4 aircraft ! (3 premium and 1 event/gift (more of a meme one) )

The Ia.58 Pucara from the Uruguayan and Sri Lankan Air Forces (this ones will differ acodring to the payload used by the countries forces)

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The Embraer AT-26

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And Finally the Fiat F.46 (gift)

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Ive also fixed the armament of the Reserve Vehicles, where sources claim that the navy added an additional Forward Facing Mg for those aircraft.

I still have more stuff to add but this will take time since im working on Specific decals, camos and planes for this TT

 

[EpicBlitzkrieg87 8,350]

I decided to support it

[OsO73 491]

26 minutes ago, EpicBlitzkrieg87 said:

I decided to support it

Thanks! 

There are a few other aircraft that are going to be added, but also i want to get ordinance/payloads, camos, decals, and some other stuff. So it will take time